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Hole Pattern Recognition

Pattern recognition is an evolved specialty of the human brain.  This innate ability allows us to recognize faces, spot a lion in the jungle, and see objects in the clouds.  Despite the effortlessness of employing this skill, it is not well understood nor can it be replicated by machines, even after decades of computer science research.  So take some pride in it.

A somewhat confusing array of holes, letters, numbers, and arrows on the Hagan jig by ATK.

But before we get too cocky, let’s test our abilities by taking it to the next level.  Can we recognize patterns of patterns?  In this case, we mean screw-hole patterns.  The kind needed to mount tech bindings to your skis.  Let’s see if we can spot any “meta patterns”:

Binding Toe Pattern (WxL) Heel Pattern (WxL)
Dynafit Low Tech Race 2.0 30 x 39 28 x 30
Dynafit Low Tech Race 30 x 39 23 x 25
Dynafit Speed Superlite 30 x 39 23 x 37
Dynafit Superlite 2.0 30 x 39 34/28 x 28
Dynafit Speed Turn 30 x 26.5 (+19) 32/36 x 52.5
Dynafit Speed Turn 2.0 30 x 39 32/36 x 52.5
Dynafit Vertical Series 30 x 26.5 (+19) 32/36 x 52.5
Dynafit Radical Series 30 x 39 32/36 x 52.5
Dynafit Radical 2.0 42.5 x 58 35.5 x 88
Dynafit Expedition 30 x 39 25 x 25
Hagan ZR 30 x 27 25 x 34
Kreuzspitze SCTT/GT 30 x 27 20.5 x 25
La Sportiva RSR 30 x 27 25 x 25
Plum Race 135/145/150 30 x 26.5 20.5 x 26
Plum Race 165/170 30 x 26.5 25 x 55
Plum WEPA 30 x 26.5 25 x 55
Plum Guide 30 x 26.5 32/36 x 53
Plum Yak 50 x 50 55 x 58
RC1 by PG 32 x 32 28 x 33.5
Ski Trab TR Race / Titan 30 x 27 25 x 31
Ski Trab TR / Titan Adjustable 30 x 27 40 x 40

The numbers are the distance between sets of holes in width (across the ski) and length (along the ski) in millimeters.  The 3rd number on the Vertical toes is the 5th hole behind the lock lever which is also present on older TLT Speed and Comfort series bindings from Dynafit.  It is located 19mm up the ski from the first set of holes.  The Dynafit and Plum 32/36 widths indicate the front holes are 4mm closer together than the rear. The Superlite 2.0 34/28 width indicates the front holes are 6mm further apart than the rear.

Whether or not you see race bindings when you look at clouds, we can see some patterns when drilling holes in skis. Knowing something about the history of tech bindings also helps, since it becomes clear that several manufacturers have borrowed measurements from previously patented Dynafit bindings.  As such, the drill hole patterns on toe pieces can be reduced to two competing standards, what we call “Classic Dynafit” 30 x 26.5mm and “Radical” 30 x 39mm.  Bindings with the same patterns can be mounted in holes drilled for other bindings using the same dimensions.

The astute will notice a half-millimeter discrepancy in some toe-hole lengths: 26.5 vs 27mm.  Luckily, this doesn’t prevent us from reusing drill holes as binding hole diameters have seemingly standardized at 6mm, while screw thread diameters are set at 5.5mm, leaving a half-millimeter of wiggle room.

However, fans of race bindings know that a half-millimeter can affect binding release characteristics, amount of heel rub in flat-on-ski mode, and degree of alignment between boot tech fittings and heel pins.  And since binding screws are often countersunk, the act of tightening a screw can easily move a binding by this amount.  Thus you often have to be conscious of the order in which you tighten binding screws, making sure not to tighten ones that pull in an unwanted direction first.

The same half-millimeter discrepancy is apparent in drilling jigs that manufacturers provide to their dealers.  So make sure to ask your shop if they are using the correct jig, as some might be tempted to cut corners and use a common Dynafit jig to drill holes for a less common Ski Trab binding, for example.  The result could be a little sloppy.

The Plum jig’s combination of common and uncommon drill hole patterns.

Heel hole patterns are less standardized unfortunately, but there are often solutions to compatibility issues in the form of adjustment plates.  For example, a Hagan adjustment plate can be mounted with any heel that is 25mm wide, including the La Sportiva RSR and Ski Trab TR-Race bindings.  The differing lengths of those bindings will affect the resulting boot sole length (BSL) range, but they will slide fore or aft just fine.  Dynafit race heels, in contrast, will only work with the Dynafit adjustment plates, as they are a unique tripod design.

As you can see, there is quite a bit of variability between mounting patterns for race heels.  This means the chances of being able to swap heels with another model and no adjustment plate are low.

In summary, before grabbing a drill and turning your skis into Swiss cheese, take a moment to check the screw hole pattern.  Similar to tech binding heel gaps, a few unwritten standards have evolved.  It’s possible another binding or adjustment plate will fit into existing holes or some simple planning will give you future flexibility.  That could free your brain to recognize more interesting patterns such as possible ski lines.


2/18/2016
Comment from Corey
 
What are the hole pattern dimensions for the Speed Radical toe piece? are they the same as the Superlite 2.0?
2/18/2016
Reply from jbo
 
Hi Corey, they are listed above as the 'Dynafit Radical Series'. Toe is the same as Superlite 2.0, yes.
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11/1/2016
Comment from Edward
 
Hey Jason, I'm having trouble finding the Kreuzspitze GT pattern, is it the same as the SCTT?
11/1/2016
Reply from jbo
 
Hi Edward, thanks for pointing that out. It is the same pattern, I just updated the list to reflect this.
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11/19/2016
Comment from paige
 
hi,
so..... do I read the chart correctly in that the TLT Radical ST 2.0 would not be compatible with the Dynafit Stoke pre drilled plates that were designed to work with the Radical 1.0?


May the Snow be with you!
paige
11/19/2016
Reply from jbo
 
Hi Paige, that is correct, the 2.0 versions have a new pattern.
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