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Getting the right ramp angle on your bindings can make the difference between skiing on-point or in the backseat with tired quads. B&D makes shims for almost every occasion. Choose a shim based on your binding and desired pin height delta, which can take some experimentation. Shorter boot sole lengths are more affected by delta because they end up with a higher ramp angle, thus look for thicker shims. Shorter skis also may benefit from thicker shims. For long skis and long feet, go thin to win. Some folks who shim their toes also increase the height of their heel risers to compensate. Do this with B&D Nubbins.

►ORDERING NOTE: All shims are sold in PAIRS, while the screws are priced INDIVIDUALLY.

Classic Shims, 3.2mm - Shims that are mounted under tech binding toes in order to reduce your ramp angle. 3.2mm thick, laser cut.

Classic Shims, 4.7mm - 4.7mm thick version of the above shims. All these are drilled to match both Classic and Radical hole patterns.

Classic Shims, 6.4mm - Same thickness as the Radical ST/FT base plates, but used for the Speed Radical and most other tech toes.

Classic Extensions, 3.2mm - Also known as “tips & tails”, these allow the Classic shims to be used with Comfort, Vertical ST, and Vertical FT bindings. They interlock with the 3.2mm Classics.

Classic Extensions, 4.7mm - The Vertical & Comfort series toes have built in base plates that would otherwise overhang the shims. These slide into the Classic shims and work well with 23.5mm screws.

Classic Extensions, 6.4mm - Supports the base plates of older Dynafit bindings while raising the whole thing up 6.4 millimeters. The toe extensions need to be screwed onto your skis with the included wood screws (6.4mm version only).

Radical 1.0 Shims, 3.2mm - Raise up the toe pieces on your Dynafit Radical ST and FT bindings by 3.2 millimeters, reducing your ramp angle.

Radical 1.0 Shims, 4.7mm - Decrease the pin height delta by 4.7mm for those Radical ST/FT 1.0 bindings from Dynafit.

Radical 1.0 Shims, 6.4mm - Effectively double the baseplate thickness under your toes, reducing the pin height delta to less than 10 mils for the Radical ST/FT series.

Radical ST 2.0 Shims, 3.2mm - Although there is a bit less pin height delta on the 2.0 series, it is still relatively high. This will correct it by 3.2mm.

Radical ST 2.0 Shims, 4.7mm - Decrease your delta by 4.7mm on the 2.0 Radical ST bindings. 37g each.

Radical ST 2.0 Shims, 6.4mm - As the thickest shims for the Radical ST 2.0 binding, the 6.4mm shims will neutralize the ramp angle the most.

Radical FT 2.0 Shims, 3.2mm - Radical 2.0 heel pins are about 13.5mm higher than the toe pins. These shims will lower the delta to near 10mm, which some feel is a good target for touring skis.

Radical FT 2.0 Shims, 4.7mm - The happy medium between the 1/8” and 1/4” shims for the Radical FT 2.0 binding.

Radical FT 2.0 Shims, 6.4mm - More toe height means less delta which means less ramp angle and possible tired quadriceps.

G3 ION Shims, 3.2mm - The stock delta of the Ion is 11mm. These shims will bring you down 3.2mm to a very happy ramp angle. When mounting an Ion(10, 12, or LT) with this shim, you'll want to get 21.5mm Pozi screws and grind them to ~19.7mm length.

G3 ION Shims, 4.7mm - Same as the above but reduces delta by 4.7mm.

G3 ION Shims, 6.4mm - Lifting the toes by 6.4mm will leave the Ion feeling pretty close to an alpine binding.

Vipec / Tecton Shims, 3.2mm - The thinnest flavor of a toe shim for the Fritschi Vipec bindings. These do *not* have drill holes for screws and will need to be drilled. 18.9mm Pan screw is needed.

Vipec / Tecton Shims, 4.7mm - Medium-est rise for Vipec toes. It also works with the Tecton. No drill holes. 20.3mm Pan screw is needed.

Vipec / Tecton Shims, 6.4mm - Stack it up under the Vipec and you'll be close to flat. No drill holes. 22mm Pan screw is needed.

Kingpin Shims, 3.2mm - Although the Kingpin has no heel pins, we’ve estimated the effective delta at +9.5mm. This can be lowered with these shims.

Kingpin Shims, 4.7mm - A thicker shim for the Kingpin will get you close to +5mm.

Kingpin Shims, 6.4mm - Closest to flat you'll get with a single shim under the Kingpin toes..

18mm Pozi Screw - If you add some shims, you're going to need longer screws. These are alpine screws with a large head that works well with Plum bindings.

19mm Torx Screw - These are good for shimming lots of toes with 6.4mm shims. Small Torx head works especially well with Dynafit bindings.

21.5mm Pozi Screw - Another alpine-style, large-head screw that works best with G3 ION and Plum models.

23.5mm Pozi Screw - Perfect for 4.7mm shims under Radical 1.0 & Vertical toes that already have baseplates. Medium size head.

28mm Pozi Screw - These are for raising the Radical ST or Vertical ST toes past 4.7mm, amongst other uses. Watch your depth, you may need to grind 'em down.

Metric conversions: 3.2mm = 1/8". 4.7mm = 3/16". 6.4mm = 1/4"

I have 4.7mm shims and 23.5mm screws that I am installing on the Radical ST. Due to the head being fatter than the stock Dynafit screws I will only get about 5mm of screw penetration into the ski instead of 8mm which is one less screw thread embedded in the ski. As a solution I am considered buying the 28mm screws and grinding them down. I'm just wondering how long the threaded portion of the 28mm screws is since i will be removing material. Also, just want to confirm they have the same thread pitch as it looks a little bigger in the photo.
Thanks Skimo!

Hey Firnspeigel, the threaded portion of the 28mm screw is 12.5mm long. The thread count is just a bit less in the 28mm than the 23.5 and the width is 6mm instead of 5.4mm, but that screw should work just fine! You'll need to grind it down by about 3mm but it will still be very secure.

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I have a pair of Dynafit Radical ST bindings, and my boots my boots already have a lot of forward lean. I'm considering the 6.4 mm shims, and was wondering which screws to buy them with? First, do the bindings come with screws, and if not, which length would be optimal? I appreciate the help.

Hey Max, you will want the 28mm Pozi screw. They may need to grind them down a little so that you don't get any dimples on your ski base. It will mostly depend on what ski you have and you may not have to if you have a thicker ski. Lay everything down on the ski and see how far the screw will go into the ski and grind down accordingly. If you need any further assistance we are always more than happy to help, email us at help@skimo.co for any more questions.

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Hi, I want to get a 4.7mm shim under my bindings on the ski as pictured. So far I’ve twice ordered what seem to be the wrong shims to fit these bindings. Do I need the the Radical 1.0 shims? Am I better off buying the Dynafit Radical ST Toe Plates to achieve the same rise?
Thanks, Lewis

Hey Lewis, sorry to hear about the purchasing issue! The Speed Radical/Speed Turn toe pieces pair well with the B&D classic shims, which you can order in a 4.7mm. Don't hesitate to reach out to us by phone or email if the situation continues to confuse!

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I'm looking at toe shims for G3 Ion 12 bindings. Will the 4.7mm shims work with 21.5mm Posi screws? 6.4mm shims with 23.5?

Thanks,
Steve

Hey Steve, the Ion 12 toe stock mounting screws are 16.6mm long flat head screws. Adding a 6.4mm shim, you'll need the 23.5mm screws and possibly grind them down 0.5mm to match the stock screw protrusion.

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Do you have heel shims for Marker Alpinist?

My apologies, we don't carry any shims for the Alpinist binding.

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Hi. I'm looking to put a 6.4mm shim under both Dynafit Radical ST 1 and ST 2bindings (2 sets of skis). Which screw lengths and head types do I need for each of these set-ups?
Thanks.

Hey Jeremy, for the Rad ST 1.0s you'll need full 28mm Pozi screws. For the 2.0s the 23.5mm screw should be more than long enough, since the stock mounting screw is 15.5mm in length (and you'll need at least a 21.9mm length with your 6.4mm shims). Happy de-ramping!

Jeremy, For your ST 2.0 use the 23.5 Pozi. The Radical ST (if also using the plate it comes with) you will need the 28mm, but check the length of your current screws, because you may need to grind off about 1mm.

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I have some Radical FT 2.0 bindings with a Scarpa Freedom SL boot in with 307mm sole length. It feels like I'm pitched forward and I find my quads burn much more than in my old Telemark setup, even after adjusting the forward lean to be less agressive.

I'm wondering if adding a toe shim is likely to help? If so, how thick of a shim do you recommend?

What length/type of screws do I need?

Hey Steve! Oof, we feel your pain! The Radical FT is running a hefty +15mm binding delta, so you could safely start with the 6.4mm shim to bring the delta down to a more manageable +8.6mm. For screws, you'll need Torx-head screws that are longer than the 19mm Torx typically used on the Rad FT toe piece.

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Would like some shims for my Dynafit Speed turns (2.0) and am curious which size and screws I should be ordering. Thank you!

Erica, you would get one of the Classic shims. With the 6.4 shim get the 19mm Torx Screws.

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Does any of the shims fit a ATK Freeraider 14?

Hi Ludd, unfortunately none of the B&D shims we stock are going to be wide enough for the mounting pattern on the Freeraider toe.

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Hi, I have an old Dynafit TLT bindings and my toe plate is thin that they do not match that toe piece. The toe piece front part is lifted. I need a thick plate or shim. What should I buy? web has pic

Hey Hideki, just because things can change between different models and years, could you send me a quick photo at (help@skimo.co)? I’ll be able to give some better info that way.

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Do any of the toe shims fit the Black Diamond Helio 200 bindings?

Thanks,
Mike

Hi Mike, yes the Classic shims will work. You could also get the Kreuzspitze toe shift plates for some additional functionality (ability to move the toes).

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Hi,

I have Salomon MTN 95 Explore (177cm), Radical ST and Salomon MTN Lab (sole length 321mm), I am 183cm/6'0'. As soon as the surface gets bumby/funny I immediately find myself in the back seat with little or no control. Considering trying shims, but unsure about the thickness. Do you have any recommandation?

Regards

Erik- I would just go for the 4.7mm shim with that binding. The other idea is try a spoiler in the back of the boot.

Thanks. I'd tried som self made spoilers, and it does help some. Do you sell spoilers?

Also, do you stock the 23.5mm Pozi Screw for mounting the 4,7mm shims under the toe piece+baseplate?

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Just want to clarify which screws for Radical ST 2.0 for 4.7mm shims and then separately, which ones for the 6.4mm shims?
Thanks

Hi Cliff, ideally you want 20mm screws for the former case and 22mm for the latter.

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Hi,

Looking at a 6.4mm shim for a vipec. What screw length should I get? I would expect a 23.5mm screw length but I dont see that as an option.

Thanks

Hey Joe,

You need a 25mm pan head screw which we do have in stock but is not on the website. So you will have to call us @ 801-942-9084 and we can take the order from there.

Hope this helps. Thanks

Matt

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Rad 1.0 with a 3.2mm toe shim would be what screw length?
Cheers,

Hey Michael! It'll be about a 21.2mm screw length if you're mounting the toe and plastic baseplate on top of the shim. The 21.5mm will likely be okay in this instance if that's the case. If you are mounting the toe directly to the shim without the plastic baseplate then it'll be about a 15.7mm long screw, in which case you'd need to grind the 18mm screw down a few millimeters.

Do you mean the 21.5mm pozi screw, which I am all for. Not a fan of torx heads. I guess while I am at it, do you have pozi screws that would work on Rad 1.0 heel pieces? to get rid of all the torx heads?

Thanks again,
Mike

Hey Mike! Yup, the 21.5mm Pozi screw should be the one! Dynafit uses some very difficult to source hardware to mount their bindings and because of that I don't think we have any Pozi pan-heads for the heels unfortunately. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, we have run into that issue many times. There is more flexibility with head choice if you want to mount the heel into inserts like Binding Freedom or Quiver Killer but that comes with its own set of benefits/drawbacks.

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I have purchased these before but now seem a little confused. Have new speed turns on the way and under the impression I should get the 6.4 classic shim. But I don’t see that as an option in the pull down menu. Any help would be great. You guys rock.

Hey Tom! Dang, it looks like we're sold out of the Classic 6.4 for the time being. That being said, you're in luck because there's still an option. The Speed Turn 2.0 uses a variation of the Radical Toe, so the Radical 1.0 shim will work just the same in this instance. As long as the binding you got is the newer Speed Turn 2.0 and not the older original Speed Turn with the 5-hole mounting pattern on the toe then the Radical 1.0 shim will work for you. If it's a 6.4mm shim then you'll likely need the 19mm Torx screws in order to mount them to the ski. Let me know if that cleared things up.

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Hello, I am looking to get a pair of the 6.4mm shins for a Radical FT2.0. I am mounting with Binding Freedom insterts. Do you have the appropriate screw size to include in the order?

Thanks!

Hey Erik, you'll need 20mm length flat head M5 stainless bolts. Because it'll be a custom order, shoot me a quick email at "help@skimo.co" and we'll get you taken care of!

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Bought the 6.4 mm shims for the dynafit radical 2.0 st binding and the 23.5 mm torx screws.

The shims were a perfect fit right out the box. The 23.5 mm screws were a nearly a perfect fit and required no modifications. I roughed the surface of the binding, ski, and both sides of the shim, and used slow cure epoxy between the ski, binding, shim, and in the screw holes.

It has held up for two long ski days and the ramp angle is noticably better. I no longer feel like I'm in high heels after stepping into the skis, and it is so much easier to skate uphill. Uphill skinning seems unchanged.

I did counter sink the holes on both sides of the binding with a drill and slightly larger drill bit. Since the radical binding has a slight welt under each screw hole, and the screw holes in the ski were slightly raised as well. It probably wasn't necessary but it made it easier to line everything up while screwing it in.

I highly recommend this shim with the 23.5 mm screws for the radical 2 binding!

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Which toe shins are recommended for dynafit speed turn 2.0?
Thanks GP

Hi Gordon, the Speed Turn 2.0 toes are compatible with the Classic Shims.

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I wanted to compare the relative weights of your shims with you B&D shift plates. I found the weights listed for your shift plates but, alas, no mention is made of the weights of your various shims. I assume the shims are lighter but there is no mention of how much lighter. Also, what material are your shims manufactured from. I looked all over but couldn't find mention of this.

Hey Mmullen! Not sure if it changes things or not, but these shims are made by B&D. Not sure exactly what kind of plastic these are made of, but they're sturdy. Weights vary a lot, but I weighed the most common shim we sell, the 6.4mm Classic, and they are about 30g per side.

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