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5/2/2015 Tech Binding Adjustment Plates

Shedding weight often means shedding features. The ability to adjust your ski bindings to various boot lengths is one such feature that is commonly jettisoned on race bindings. If you know you’re going to be using a particular boot for a season or two, why carry an extra ounce or two?

But weight isn’t the only reason to go fixed. There is beauty and reliability in simplicity; one less thing to jam, strip, or break. Removing adjustment mechanisms also tends to lower pin heights, which is helpful if you’re targeting a neutral stance. For all the above reasons, we tend to recommend fixed mounts if you have reasonable confidence you’ll be in the same boots for at least a season.

We make that recommendation knowing there is a fallback plan. If you do end up changing boots or selling your skis, you can add adjustment plates at that time. Almost every tech binding can be mounted onto some combination of toe and/or heel plates using special hardware. The plates are then mounted onto your skis, usually with the screws that came with the binding.

There are three main types of binding adjustment plates: bolt-tension, bolt-positioning, and threaded-hole. Each is detailed in its own section below.

Tension Plates

Bolt-tension plates are the most common and consist of simple tracks along which adjustment screws can be slid. Resistance to fore/aft movement is proportional to how tightly the bolts are fastened into nuts mounted underneath the plate. Because of this fact, it’s a natural instinct to want to overtighten the bolts. It’s also tempting to add Loctite or similar thread-locker to prevent the bolts from loosening. However this can lead to stripped screws, for which finding replacements can be difficult. We tend to take the opposite approach and add grease to the threads, making sure to check their tightness on a regular basis. Be careful not to grease the actual plates or nuts underneath, as these surfaces provide the friction that prevents the heels from sliding.

Tension Plate Rail Dimensions (WxL) Mounting Pattern (WxL)
ATK R01 25 x 71 25 x 86
Black Diamond Helio 25 x 71 25 x 86
Dynafit Toe 30 x 37 40 x 91
Dynafit 1.0 Heel 23 x 38/50 26 x 54
Dynafit LTR 2.0 28 x 31 40/22 x 62
Dynafit Superlite 2.0 28/34 x 26 35.5 x 88
Hagan 25 x 71 25 x 86
Kreuzspitze 14mm 20.5 x 45 32/36 x 52.5
Kreuzspitze 18mm 20.5 x 49 36 x 52.5
Kreuzspitze 40mm 20.5 x 70 36 x 75
Kreuz. Universal 25 x 62 36 x 75
Kreuz. Old LTR 32 x 60 36 x 75
Plum 20.5 x 70 25 x 86
Ski Trab Race 25 x 61 36 x 75

The table above details the dimensions of the adjustment tracks and mounting patterns for various adjustment plates. Combined with binding dimensions, you can determine what plates might work with your binding as well as calculate the approximate amount of fore/aft adjustability. Let’s consider an example.

The Kreuzspitze adjustment plates feature a 20.5mm wide track, which happens to be the mounting width of the Plum race 135/145 heels. Sure enough, that heel/plate combo works great. This means that you can easily swap a Dynafit touring heel with a Plum race heel without re-drilling. That’s because the 14mm “Special K” adjustment plates are drill hole compatible with Dynafit Speed, Radical, Vertical & Comfort heels.

To approximate the adjustment range of that combo, start by subtracting the rail length dimension by the mounting length of the heel piece. From this result, subtract another 5-6mm to account for the screw width (or more precisely, two half-widths). The adjustment bolts need to fit in the tracks, after all.

Checking the data tables, the 14mm adjustment plates have a 45mm track and the Plum heel holes are 26mm apart lengthwise. They come with M5 (5mm) bolts. Plugging the numbers into the formula, 45mm – 26mm – 5mm = 14mm. Thus Plum heels have a ~14mm adjustment range when mounted on a Kreuzspitze 14mm plate. We recommend subtracting a couple more millimeters to account for variances in nut shape, hole chamfering, mount location, and discrepancies between stated and measured sole lengths. 12-13mm should be all the adjustment you can expect from this combo.

Now let’s try a more advanced example. The Hagan binding plates feature a 25mm wide track, which happens to be the same length as the Kreuzspitze SCTT heel pieces. Knowing the internal binding mechanics are symmetrical, it’s possible to mount the heels sideways on a Hagan plate. While not necessarily a recommended configuration, we were able to use this combo successfully in a pinch.

One warning when mixing and matching plates and heels across brands. The mounting screws for one brand may not seat properly in the plate holes of another, reducing the amount of threads engaged in the ski. To be safe, we recommend using the binding mounting screws provided by the manufacturer of the plates, noting that these are not typically included.

Positioning Plates

Bolt-positioning plates consist of a linear stage that slides along a leadscrew, actuated with a wrench or driver. Often called rental plates, these devices are faster to adjust and less likely to strip. They are also easier to fine tune for a precise heel gap (heels mounted on tension plates can subtly wander during tightening). The downside is they tend to be heavier and compatible with fewer heel pieces. This is because the stage is drilled and threaded to accept a specific heel pattern. Below are the nitty-gritty details of said patterns.

Positioning Plate Heel Pattern (WxL) Mounting Pattern (WxL)
Hagan Rental 25 x 34 25 x 59
Kreuzspitze Rental 20.5 x 25 36 x 75
Ski Trab Flex 30 25 x 31 45 x 37

Threaded-hole Plates

Also known as shift plates, threaded-hole plates consist of multiple sets of holes that exactly match the mounting pattern of the bindings they support. Screw the binding toe or heel into the hole-set that makes the most sense given your boot sole length and desired mounting position. These types of plates are very robust, yet lack the ability to fine tune the binding position since they can only be moved in pre-defined distance increments. Fine-tuning is accomplished with another plate or a binding with a built-in adjustment mechanism. The pre-defined increments are listed below.

Threaded-hole plates are often used in situations where drilling additional holes is suboptimal, usually because the new set would be too close to existing holes or otherwise compromise the integrity of the ski. In this case, you can use the existing holes to mount the plates, and then select another hole-set into which you can screw the binding. Thus you’ve effectively shifted the location of the existing mount.

Shift Plate Hole Sets Increment Mounting Pattern (WxL)
B&D Toe - Classic 4 13mm 30 x 26.5 (+19)
B&D Toe - Radical 3 13mm 30 x 39
B&D Toe - Outside 4-5 13mm 47.5 x 79.5
B&D Heel - Inline 6 6mm 32/36 x 52.5
B&D Heel - Centered 7 6mm 0 x 27 (+27)
Kreuzspitze Toe Shift 3 13.5mm 36 x 75

All of the above plate types can be useful when maintaining a boot quiver as they can help you maintain a centered position on the ski. They are also handy if you aren’t quite sure where you want to be mounted on the ski. One use-case is to mount a ski with some adjustment plates and test skiing it at various fore/aft positions. Once the sweet spot is found, you can then remove the plates and do a fixed mount at the perfect location for your style and boot sole length.

That’s all for now. We hope you’ve found this information helpful. Head on over to our binding section to acquire these tools of the trade.


Comment from Scott L
Hi guys, just a quick correction, the mounting hole length for the Kreuzspitze K18 plate is actually 53mm, not 52.5mm.
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Comment from Simon M
I have Volkl skis with Marker Alpinist 8 binding. As more members of family want to use those skis I was looking for adjustment plate for the binding. Unfortunately I can’t find any. Does it exist?

Is there a option how to increase adjustment for the Marker binding?
Thank you very much
Reply from Emmett I

There isn't an adjustment plate for the Alpinist aside from the 15mm integrated adjustment. You could try to find some Marker Alpinist Long Travel heels, or look into building a franken-binding with some heel pieces.
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Comment from Tjaard B
Can you explain why you choose to use grease, not loctite on the threads of the screws for tension plates? Of course I can see not using overly string loctite, but blue should be fine for that size boots I’d think?

And what about using grip paste* (aka carbon paste, mostly sold for biking, for clamping things like handlebars and seatposts, where the carbon ones can’t handle being tightened down too much)?
Reply from Josef H
Grease on the threads reduces friction ,therefore increasing lateral clamping force of the screw, but there is a torque limit the standard square nuts found on most adjustment tracks can handle . You have a good point increasing friction using the carbon paste on the sliding interface surfaces only, however it will eventually wear through the type 2 anodizing and I would be really careful not to let any paste get into the rotating turret of the binding ,the adjustment mechanism and onto the pins /pin housing .
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Comment from Paul
Hi! My boots are 28mm different bases, and I'm trying to make my helio bindings compatible with both. I dropped the skis off to get mounted with the 30mm adjustment plate, but the shop says there isn't enough safety margin and they need another 2mm! Is there a toe adjustment plate for helio bindings or a heel adjuster with longer rails anywhere?
Reply from jbo
Hi Paul, you could use a Kreuzspitze toe shift plate or get the BD Rental track.
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Comment from Yannis
Is there an adjustment plate for Dynafit LT Race 2.0/PDG/105 with a drilling pattern for standard Dynafit Speed Turn 2 ?
Reply from TSB
Hey Yannis, unfortunately such a plate would have to be a mythical hybrid between a unicorn and a snow leopard! The Speed Turn hole pattern is Dynafit's classic 32/36 x 52.5mm trapezoidal dimensions while the adjustment plate for the LTR 2.0, LTR 105 and PDG heels is 22/40 x 62mm. If you are looking to bump to a lighter-weight heel from your Speed Turns without re-drilling, check out the Kreuzspitze 14mm adjustment plate, which would allow you to run either an SCTTT or SCTT heel from Kreuzspitze or a Race 150 from Plum.
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Comment from Jack
Hi. I bought a pair of Salomon QST skis, Tyrolia attack2 11 bindings. I am an extreme novice on ski related purchases. I have a pair of técnica Diablo pro race ski boots. Are all items compatible and ok for general skiing? Also, and most importantly, I need to mount the bindings to the skis, what mounting plates do you recommend I buy? Please advise on what other items I may need or you recommend to get ski setup complete. Wil be taking to a ski shop in NM for install. Previously visited different shops, but none carry mounting plates. Thank you.
Reply from jbo
Hi Jack, unfortunately we only carry plates for tech bindings, not alpine bindings. Sorry!
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Comment from Daniel H
Hi Skimo. I bought a set of Fischer Transalp 90 Carbons, a set of Fritschi Xenic 10s, and the Dynafit TLT7 Performance boot. When I took them to a nearby REI (it's the only shop nearby), they told me I needed "tech binding mounting plates" to mount my Xenics to my Transalps.

Is this guy for real? I'm $2k deep and I've never heard that I actually needed a plate for a basic, fixed mount. I'm definitely a newbie... am I also an idiot?
Reply from jbo
Hi Daniel, if you're an idiot, so am I! I've mounted tons of tech bindings and have never heard of such plates. Those bindings can screw right onto those skis. Maybe he meant they don't have the jig?
Reply from Daniel H
Thanks for the quick reply! I clarified and he meant that their shop didn't have the jig!
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Comment from Alex
Silly me bought Volkl VTA 88 Lites and BD Helio 110 bindings. The "H" mounting pattern on the ski is incompatible with the binding hole layout.
- The "H" starts at 26.2mm wide and goes to 54.2mm wide.
- The Helio mount pattern is 30x27mm for the toe and 25x34mm for the heel (according to your chart on Hole Pattern Recognition)

I feel somewhat comfortable with the toe dimensions, but think it would be silly to mount the heel with the current dimensions. Thus, I started looking at adjustment plates with wider mount patterns that would fit 25mm wide bindings.

It looks like the Kreuz. Universal and Ski Trab Gara have the correct width dimension. If that is the case, the last thing I can think to worry about would be the screw compatibility between binding and mounting plate. Any input on that front or my approach in general?

Thanks for the wealth of info and support you guys have here!
Reply from jbo
Hi Alex, thanks for the feedback! Yes the Volkl skis have some issues with binding compatibility. They tend to recommend using Marker bindings such as the Alpinist with that ski.
You are spot on in finding the Kreuz and Trab plates as options. Both of those kits come with mounting screws so you should be good to go. Check your depth as always!
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Comment from Christopher W
I need a little help with math here. I have the Kreuzspitze 14mm plates (not available to measure at the moment) and I'm considering using longer plates - say the 18mm plates or the "Universal" plates with 25mm track width. I can't make sense of the track dimensions you have listed above and how they relate to adjustment range. If the Kreuzspitze heel has a 20.5mm bolt pattern, how does a 45mm long track give only 14mm of range? Or a 49mm track give only 18mm of adjustment range? I'm stumped.

The closest I can get for the "14mm" plate is 45mm track - 20.5mm binding spacing - 5mm (screw dia?) = 19.5mm. Are they advertised extremely conservatively, or are there a few mm I'm not accounting for somewhere?
Reply from jbo
Hi Chris, the K heels are 25mm long. 20.5 is the width.
Reply from Christopher W
D'oh, I should have known that.

As an aside, I'm super impressed with the options Kreuzspitze provides for adjustment plates. It makes lots of combinations possible with minimal redrilling.
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Comment from Rares
Hi there,

Could you please tell me which plates model is working with Dynafit Tour Tech Lite? The length adjustment are only 6 mm and my Boots are 320 mm one pair and 307 second one :(.
Do you ship to Romania as well?
Reply from jbo
Hi Rares, you will need the B&D Shift plates to move that binding. No problem sending them your way.
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Comment from Gaël
Hi there,

My favorite store messed up with my skis and I can’t fix my G3 Ion 12 LT anymore, the 16 drillings are too wide, even for inserts :(...

I had a look to your « Adjustment Plates » which may fix my problem.

Which plates do you recommand for my G3 Ion 12 LT bindings ? Are there Front and Rear plates or just rear ?

Thanks a lot for your help !


Ps: are your delivering to France btw ?
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Comment from Joe
What is the best sequence to adjust a binding on a tension plate (in my case a Kreuzspitze plate)?

Do you have a recommended procedure?
Reply from jbo
Hi Joe, depending on the binding you can often lightly tighten the bolts with the driver at an angle while the pins are inserted into the boot at the proper distance. You need just enough tension to not have the binding slide when you take the boot out and rotate the heel to really get at the screw heads to tighten fully. This can be frustrating though so you may want to mark the binding position with tape and then not worry about it sliding since you can line it back up with the tape.
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Comment from Philip H
If you are transferring a binding (heel piece) between skis and using an adjustment plate, is it better to:
1) have inserts and one adjustment plate (thereby decreasing the amount of use of the nuts on the adjustment plate - although one would still have to do some adjusting each time).
2) have 2 adjustment plates - each one mounted to a ski - and move the binding back and forth?

Is one more typically done than the other? Is there a good reason for one to be preferable? (I'm wondering about eventual stripping of the nuts on the adjustment plates vs dealing with loctite on the bolts in the inserts somewhat regularly... tradeoffs).

Reply from jbo
Hi Phil, neither are terribly popular options, one binding per ski is still the norm. Note it's unlikely with inserts that you'd have exactly the same heel spacing across skis so you'd still be working with the adjustment bolts. We sell replacements for just about every model in case of strippage.
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Comment from Ignacio
Hi!! I need an adjustable plate for a Dynafit TLT Expedition binding. ¿Is it possible to find here? I live in Spain, and here is imposible to find it... I don´t know if you can send to me. Thank you very much!!
Reply from jbo
Hi Ignacio, the basic Hagan plate works with that heel piece. There are some shipping options for you at checkout.
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Comment from Phil
What are the options for a speed radical toe?
Reply from jbo
Hi Phil, you can either do a B&D Toe shift plate or an Aski adjustment plate.
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Comment from Jasper

You mention combining the Kreuzspitze 14mm working well with Plum Race Heels and Dynafit Touring Heels. Any opinion on how that half cm would factor into using the above combo but with Plum Guide Heels? I have used Plum Guides heels in drilled for Dynafit Verticals with great success. I also use a vertical era Dynafit ig for mounting Plum Guides. Granted I'm not using inserts so I imagine I have a lttle bit more fudge room, or have just been getting by on luck. Could I get away with mounting inserts for a Kreuzspitze 14mm and comboing with a Plum Guide?

Thanks for all your help!
Reply from jbo
Hi Jasper, that should work. Haven't tried that particular swap with inserts, but the Guide and Radical pattern are very close.
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Comment from Chris Wearn
I have Speed Turn 2 heals, I like the heals but need them to be more adjustable to accommodate different boots. My TLT5 are 317mm boot sole length and my Dalbello Ludo Ti are 337. Which binding plate should I use to accommodate both boots with the same heels?
Reply from jbo
Hi Chris, with careful mounting, you should be able to handle a 20mm range with the stock Speed Turn 2.0 heels.
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Comment from wag
I'm looking for a mounting plate that will let me use the Speed Turn 1.0 Heel insert holes with my Fischer Tour Race 1.0 heel (aka the Hagan ZR heel). I've been googling around and I can't seem to find such a plate. I was excited by the prospect of the Kreuzspitze plates, but the rails look to be too narrow. Have you seen any plates that would work? My hope is to be able to use inserts and swap between the race heel and the speed turn heel.
Reply from jbo
Hi wag, I'm not aware of any plate that will adapt Dynafit touring heel holes to a ZR heel, sorry.
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Comment from Doug H
I bought the Kreuzspitze K14 plate, removed my old Speed Turn heels and, reusing the same holes, switched to the Kreuzspitze SCTT heels to create a perfect setup! Lost a lot of weight and ramp. I am slowing going through the quiver and installing inserts for all my Dynafit heel bindings so I can switch between the Kreuzspitze and Dynafit heels depending on the mission.

Regarding ramp, the plate allowed me to drop the delta from +15.5mm for the Speed Turn to +5.0mm for Kreuzspitze plate and SCTT heel - which seems perfect to me. Without the plate, the SCTT heel mounted directly to the ski would have a delta of -0.5mm which I assume would feel too low for most used to the 15mm-ish deltas.

I wish I read this article earlier because I over-tightened the screws holding the heel to the plate and quickly stripped the screws. Although grease may have helped, I blame the extreme el-cheapo screws that come with the Kreuzspitze plate. Cheap/soft Phillips screws should not have been included with the extremely well made Kreuzspitze stuff. Just looking at the Phillips screw that is most well-lit in the last photo in this article and I can see how the bit has slipped and rounded the soft metal a little already. I recommend replacing the stock screws with better/harder screws with a different head right out of the box. I went with M5 hex heads from Tacoma screw.

Love, love, love the articles - keep 'em coming!
Reply from jbo
Hi Doug, thanks for the feedback. FYI, Kreuzspitze realized their screws were sub-optimal and have now started shipping the plates with much stronger Torx screws. I'm happy to send you a set.
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