Ben

These pants work very well for their intended purpose, which for me is touring on cold days. I don't think I run particularly warm or cold, but for me these pants are best in temps between +5F and +20F with no baselayer. I will wear a thinner pant on warmer days, and they are not the best choice for most spring tours unless you run cold. I normally don't like touring with gaiters but I like the built-in gaiters on these for deep trailbreaking.

+1 to what Carlos said, except for me they are comfortable with no baselayer in temps between 15F and 40F. The material is surprisingly water resistant and they hold up in deep bootpacks, at least in Utah snow. These pants are basically the same as the discontinued Avenger, for those who are looking for a replacement. The only real difference I've noticed is a slightly improved waistband. I will say if you use a beefier boot, they will work but it could be annoying to peel the cuff on and off at every tra...

I've been telling skimo co for years that the Black Crows poles are better in every way than the *other* french poles with the long grips, happy that they are finally stocking them. They are stronger, the grips don't ice up as badly, the top caps are metal and they include wrist straps.

What is the length like on these? 301mm is a pretty short BSL for a size 27 freeride boot. I ask because I find a lot of lighter 27's to be too short, but almost all freeride 27's are long enough.

Thanks! I imagine the new Tecnica Zero G Pro tour lags behind because of its overlap design, or is it able to hang?