What size Wailer 112 Tour2 ski (or Tour1) do you recommend?
I am 5'10" 185lbs.
Very experienced skier trying to decide between the 178 or the 184. Thanks.
The Wailer 112 started a new comparison category for us called “excess fat”. Sure, DPS made the touring version of its iconic resort ski light enough to carry uphill. But skiing back down on it is cheating, pure and simple. The rockered profile perfectly integrated with the buttery sidecut makes skiing too easy. You can lean forward in powder as if you’re skiing groomers, and no one will be able to discern your actual skill level (try doing that on a skimo race ski if you think you’re so good!).
Of course, since skiing basics are covered for you by the Wailer, you might be tempted to turn it up a notch. You might not be able to resist charging at a level of aggressiveness that we simply cannot condone when you’re as far into the backcountry as the weight of the Tour1 allows. As such, we don’t recommend even tempting yourself with this ski.
- 3D PaddleTech Geometry tapers the sidecut as the tip and tail rise off the deck.
- Balsa wood core is light but still provides good feedback as you exit a turn.
- Proprietary carbon fiber laminates keep things stiff enough to perform.
- Hardened P-tex bases and edges can be found on the WC racing circuit.
- Made in Salt Lake City, USA.
| Specifications | |
| Lengths (cm) | 168, 178, 184 |
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Weight |
1315g [168] 1450g [178] 1540g [184] |
| Weight (pair) | 2630g [168] 2900g [178] 3080g [184] |
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141-112-128 |
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Turn |
15-18m |
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Skin |
Round tips & tails |
| Specs Verified | Yes |
| Design | |
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Rockered tip & tail, camber underfoot |
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Variable radius w/ tapered tip & tail |
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Polyamide cap w/ carbon laminates |
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Balsa wood |
| Skimo Co Says | |
| Usage | Blasting powder & crud |
| Notes | Unbelievable surface-to-weight ratio |
| Bottom Line | Cheating |
| Compare to other Excess-fat Skis | |
Questions & Reviews
8/12/2019
8/13/2019
Brian, With the considerable rocker of the Wailers, they obviously ski shorter then they are. So the 184 would be a good choice for you. I happen to have these in the 178 cm and I weight about 150. Even though the Wailer design (in any width or length) has a short turning radius, doesn't mean they can't make big turns. I can vary the radius of turns by just thinking about it. As everyone who owns a pair say, they are so playful and fun.
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6/27/2019
I'm an east coast skier who skis firm snow in the backcountry. Current setup is Scarpa F1 boots and Blizzard Zero G 85s.
Would the F1 drive this ski adequately? I'm going to be doing a hut trip in Kaslo this coming winter and trying to figure what would be a good combination for that style of skiing/snow. Do I need to step up to a Technica Zero G or a Maestrale RS?
The blizzard is pretty stiff though very light and I also ski a black diamond boundary 107 which is also quite stout...Is this ski going to feel floppy?
Any other recommendations are welcome.
Would the F1 drive this ski adequately? I'm going to be doing a hut trip in Kaslo this coming winter and trying to figure what would be a good combination for that style of skiing/snow. Do I need to step up to a Technica Zero G or a Maestrale RS?
The blizzard is pretty stiff though very light and I also ski a black diamond boundary 107 which is also quite stout...Is this ski going to feel floppy?
Any other recommendations are welcome.
7/1/2019
The Wailer 112RP Tour1 is a very soft flexing ski, making it a specialized tool for powder days. In that softer snow, you do not need a very stiff boot to drive a ski. I would say that if you are skiing on the east coast 90% of the time, this ski would maybe not get a ton of use, but would be very fun for powder skiing trips where moving fast is not the priority.
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12/3/2018
JohnB
(downright abused product)
This is simply the best backcountry ski I have ever owned. Its super fun, playful and light. I use them with some Kreuzspitze GT bindings and TLT 6 boots. I always hesitated going wider than 100mm but the width is part of what makes it super fun and buttery and now you can have width at the same weight as a narrower ski!! It doesn't have to be waist deep to justify the width, even with 10cm of fluff it raises the fun factor. Though I don't use this ski much in the spring, if you do end up on some icy slopes or groomers it still does very well. It holds an edge very well, carves very nicely and doesn't chatter.
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3/16/2017
Do you have a store front, I'm from Idaho and will be in SLC for a couple of days. I want those 184 dps tour and a pair of dynafit lite bindings
3/16/2017
Hi Randy, we sure do! Swing by 2477 Ft Union Blvd in Cottonwood Heights.
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10/25/2016
hello, i have the same question as peter, above. i'm trying to decide between the dps wailer 112 pure3 or tour1 to use for backcountry skiing. i have another carbon ski, and regrettable, i am not happy with the downhill performance. they have too much chatter, and just feel really awkward. so, i don't want to repeat that experience. i see quite a few folks touring on the pure3s, which is a good sign. clearly the pure3 ski better, and the tour1 is lighter. so, just how well do the tour1's ski? thanks, brad
10/25/2016
Hi Brads, our somewhat biased vote is for the Tour1 edition in the backcountry. They are easy to ski and perform quite well, despite being a bit softer than the Pure version. There might be something else going on with your previous setup, feel free to e-mail or call us for a diagnosis.
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11/4/2015
i'm a little confused? do you like this ski or not?
I'm considering the 112 Pure 3 as a touring ski/backcountry..or the Tour1... flat out back country i will never leave my Black Crowes... but much as ive tried you cant tour out on a190 Nocta!!!
My legs are telling me Tour1, by head is saying Pure3 with a supa lite binding...
what can you do on both, with a G3 binding or Dynafit, and a skin again G3
Regards Peter
I'm considering the 112 Pure 3 as a touring ski/backcountry..or the Tour1... flat out back country i will never leave my Black Crowes... but much as ive tried you cant tour out on a190 Nocta!!!
My legs are telling me Tour1, by head is saying Pure3 with a supa lite binding...
what can you do on both, with a G3 binding or Dynafit, and a skin again G3
Regards Peter
11/4/2015
Hi Peter, our description could go either way :)
We generally really liked the Tour1 line. They are somewhat less stiff and damp than the Pure3s but the weight savings is significant. I'll follow up via e-mail on a setup tailored to you.
We generally really liked the Tour1 line. They are somewhat less stiff and damp than the Pure3s but the weight savings is significant. I'll follow up via e-mail on a setup tailored to you.
8/23/2016
I find the description and cryptic recommendation funny but, then again, I've always appreciated Jason's sense of humor. Knowing it, this is clearly a thumbs up from Skimo Co. I would second the motion, finding the 112 Tour 1 the best ski out there for ripping big vertical in deepish to deep pow. For the amount of ski one gets, the T1 is silly light, especially when paired with a race style binding. Yes, skiing them is, indeed, cheating. Compared to the Pure 3, one has to pay slightly more attention at Mach 1 with the Tour 1 but the trade off on the up more than makes up for it.
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2/16/2015
Curious of the weight of the 168? I have a pair of Yvette 168s that are a dream but I may have to spring for these! But I'm debating between the 99 so I'm curious the weight difference between the two at 168.
Thanks!
Thanks!
2/17/2015
Hi AMMB, we don't have an official (measured by us) weight on the 168s yet, but projecting from the other skis, I would expect a weight in the low 1300 gram range, meaning 4-5ish ounces heavier than the 99s, which came in surprisingly light.
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