I'm 5'10" and 155lbs. I own the 178 length of this ski from a few years back and love it. It's my favorite ski, but I do notice the lack of stability if I need to really open it up.
It's about time to get another pair as my old pair is pretty beat up. Should I stick with the 178 or size up to the 184? I ski primarily in NW Montana (sometimes BC Canada), so lots of tight trees and avy chutes, but every once in a while some higher speeds on open alpine lines. I'm wondering if the increases stability of the 184 would be worth any sacrifice in playfulness and uphill kick-turn-ability of the 178.
DPS Carbon Pagoda Tour CFL 112 Ski
Continuing with an intuitive, fun, and proven shape that has been accused of being "too easy to ski," the Carbon Pagoda Tour CFL 112 takes the reigns from Pagoda Tour 112 as the new go-to powder ski for those who are all about fun. Keeping the same sidecut and rocker profile that has made its forbear's instant favorites of those who have skied them, the Carbon Pagoda Tour CFL 112 is all about fun, allowing you to slash, dash, surf, carve, or slarve your way through fields of dreamy powder. Compared to the Pagoda construction of years past, DPS is now using a Carbon and Flax laminate (CFL) which decreases torsional chatter while also containing fewer grams, meaning you get better downhill performance at a more leg and lung-friendly weight. Utilizing Checkerspot algal material and Super Sap Bio Resin, DPS has reduced the skis' carbon footprint without diminishing their trademark durability. The generous rocker profile oozes fun and maneuverability that is equally at home in wide-open bowls as it is picking its way through tight trees. If "fun" describes what you seek from skiing, the Carbon Pagoda Tour CFL 112 should be on your shortlist.
- Carbon and Flax laminate provides a high performance-to-weight ratio.
- World Cup base shrugs off rock strikes while gliding exceptionally well.
- Textured top sheet resists snow and ice build-up, ensuring you aren't carrying extra weight on an epic day.
- Reinforced mounting plate helps ensure your bindings don't pull out on a big drop.
- More eco-friendly materials have been implemented into the construction of this ski, helping reduce its carbon footprint.
- Full-wrap polyurethane sidewall helps with edge bite in firm conditions.
- One of the most-lauded ski designs for powder in history.
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| Lengths (cm) | 158, 168, 178, 184, 189 |
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Weight |
1280g [158] 1370g [168] 1510g [178] 1590g [184] 1720g [189] |
| Weight (pair) | 2560g [158] 2740g [168] 3020g [178] 3180g [184] 3440g [189] |
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138-112-122 [158] 139-112-124 [168] 140-112-125 [178] 140-112-127 [184] 141-112-129 [189] |
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Turn |
15m |
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Skin |
Rounded tip and flat tail |
| Specs Verified | |
| Design | |
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Generous tip rocker, moderate tail rocker, camber underfoot |
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Short turning radius, tapered tip and tail |
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Carbon Pagoda Tour CFL |
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Paulownia wood |
| Skimo Co Says | |
| Usage | Powder, powder, and more powder |
| Notes | Carbon and Flax laminate makes the ski impressively damp |
| Bottom Line | Guaranteed to make you smile |
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Questions & Reviews
1/13/2025
1/13/2025
Hi Max,
Going to the 184cm ski would increase the stability a bit, but it would make it harder to kick turn on the uphill than the shorter ski. It may also be a bit less nimble in tight places. You may also notice that the newer CFL versions of the 112, compared to the older Pagoda Tour construction, are a bit softer and more energetic, but not more stable. The CFL version of the ski has gone in the nimble/forgiving direction, rather than the high speed stability direction. This might lead you to choose the 184cm version this time around, if you want another DPS 112 - or, you could consider some other skis with a bit different design!
Going to the 184cm ski would increase the stability a bit, but it would make it harder to kick turn on the uphill than the shorter ski. It may also be a bit less nimble in tight places. You may also notice that the newer CFL versions of the 112, compared to the older Pagoda Tour construction, are a bit softer and more energetic, but not more stable. The CFL version of the ski has gone in the nimble/forgiving direction, rather than the high speed stability direction. This might lead you to choose the 184cm version this time around, if you want another DPS 112 - or, you could consider some other skis with a bit different design!
1/13/2025
What other skis would you recommend I take a look at? It will be hard to get me to turn away from the Pagoda tour 112s, as it's the best turning ski I've skied and I like a lot of controlled powder turns.
Also, do you know what kind of Pomoca skins that the DPS pre-cut skins are made out of? Is the 'free pro' or a different one? Thanks!
Also, do you know what kind of Pomoca skins that the DPS pre-cut skins are made out of? Is the 'free pro' or a different one? Thanks!
1/13/2025
Gotcha! The Pagoda 112/CFL 112 are pretty unique in how they turn - my point is really just that the reason they are so easy to turn in powder is the same reason that they aren't very stable at high speeds. Not much effective edge, lots of rocker, short radius, and now a softer flex in the CFL version.
If you were to look at other skis for more stability, I'd consider the Faction La Machine Mega and the Locator 112. These are charge-ier skis that won't be as quick and nimble as the Pagoda 112, but will be more stable at speed and can be pushed a lot harder. Just depends on your priorities.
The DPS skins use Climb Pro S-Glide/Tour Pro plush!
If you were to look at other skis for more stability, I'd consider the Faction La Machine Mega and the Locator 112. These are charge-ier skis that won't be as quick and nimble as the Pagoda 112, but will be more stable at speed and can be pushed a lot harder. Just depends on your priorities.
The DPS skins use Climb Pro S-Glide/Tour Pro plush!
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10/23/2024
Length Question: 184 or 189?
Me: 5'11"// 200
Strong skier, planning to use exclusively for touring days.
Terrain/Ski Character: Mix of trees and open terrain, so pivot potential balanced with stability would be good.. the specs state 55% effective edge length..
.. what size would you recommend?
Me: 5'11"// 200
Strong skier, planning to use exclusively for touring days.
Terrain/Ski Character: Mix of trees and open terrain, so pivot potential balanced with stability would be good.. the specs state 55% effective edge length..
.. what size would you recommend?
10/23/2024
Hi Ptt,
For touring use, I would lean towards the 184cm ski. 189cm would be a lot of ski on the uphill, and this isn't a straightline-oriented ski anyways! I think 184cm will give you enough float and stability to access the potential of this ski, and it will handle easier in the trees and on the skin track.
For touring use, I would lean towards the 184cm ski. 189cm would be a lot of ski on the uphill, and this isn't a straightline-oriented ski anyways! I think 184cm will give you enough float and stability to access the potential of this ski, and it will handle easier in the trees and on the skin track.
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