Skimo Co

Movement Response-X Ski


Movement is aiming the Response-X at mountain guides and skiers who go on multi-day tours. Well, we think that if you ever ski back-to-back one-day tours, that is close enough. Weighing in at a little over a kilo, the Response-X will help prevent leg-hangover after a long day of climbing. And with a light rocker tip and a heavy dose of carbon technology, the ski could surprise you on the down with its overall performance and edge hold. While excelling on hard snow often found in shadowed couloirs, the 89mm wide body and rocker will also help you ski variable conditions from powder to wet snow that you may find on the way there. Note this ski replaces the much-loved Logic-X from previous seasons.

  • Impressive surface-to-weight ratio tours like a race ski and skis like an adult ski.
  • Karuba Paulownia light wood core is combined with some Poplar to balance liveliness and weight.
  • Patented Thin Ply Technology (TPT) wraps the core with tri-axial carbon fibers spun around the ski.
  • Sintered bases use 1.3mm of P-Tex 4000 for decent core protection and smooth glide.
  • Part of X-Series skis that use semi-secret Movement Light Technology X, a unique carbon manufacturing process.

Update 2015/16: The Response gets a new paint job but otherwise is the same, thankfully.

** Telemarkers: Movement does not recommend mounting telemark bindings on these skis.

Lengths (cm) 161, 169, 177, 185
convert to ounces
1035g [161]
1095g [169]
1195g [177]
1250g [185]
Weight (pair) 2070g [161]
2190g [169]
2390g [177]
2500g [185]
Sidecut   124-89-112 [161]
126-89-114 [169]
128-89-116 [177]
128-89-116 [185]
Turn Radius   16.5m [161]
17.5m [169]
18.0m [177]
19.0m [185]
Skin Fix   Curved tip, flat tail notch
Specs Verified Yes
Profile   Gentle rocker, camber underneath
Shape   short-to-medium radius, flat tail
Construction   Cap w/ TPT technology
Core   Karuba & Poplar wood
Skimo Co Says
Usage Long tours with variable snow
Notes Amazing surface-to-weight ratio
Bottom Line Ski anything without getting tired

Questions & Reviews

Question from Jean-Marc
Hi team

I own this pair of Movement X Response (185 / 1.2kg) and am just delighted with it, combined with a (heavy, 1.1kg) Fritschi Freeride Pro binding, it just skies so great carving on slope and floating in powder.

Now today I would like to almost get the same ski (discontinued I know), but combine it with a lighter binding setup (ATK 13 for example) for more uphill-oriented days. Which ski comes closest today from movement or other brands?

Huge thanks
Answer from Carlos M
Hi Jean-Marc,

If possible, I would consider remounting your current skis. An equivalent ski might be hard to find. The same shape was continued with a different construction in the Movement Alp Tracks 89, so that would be the ski to look for. Unfortunately, they are also discontinued. If you cannot find a pair of those, then one ski with a somewhat similar feel would be the  Dynafit Blacklight 88. It is also a fairly stiff, but not unforgiving ski that likes to finish its turns and has great edge hold. It also does quite well in powder for its width, and is a similar underfoot width to the Alp Tracks 89.
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mbillie1 (used product regularly)
Me: 5'10", 160lbs, type III. I'm skiing the 177cm with green TLT6Ps and Ski Trab Gara Titan bindings.

The Response-X is a great mid-winter daily touring ski for me here in the Wasatch. They are stupid easy to ski - my first turns on them required no thought whatsoever and were just plain fun. I've been pleasantly surprised how well they handle powder, and they've become my go-to ski in anything fresh. I've skied them in some of the best of the very deep conditions we've been fortunate enough to have this winter, and really unless there's over 18" of fresh powder, they're more than enough ski for me. They float great and are comfortable at much higher speed than I anticipated for a ski this light. In any sort of consistent conditions (pow, corn, firm), they're a dream. I've been stunned to be treating my 89mm waist ski as a "powder ski" but that's the role they've snuck into in my quiver.

In funky snow, they get tossed around. No surprise for a ski+binding combo < 1400g/foot. They're also a little hooky in variable stuff - wind affected snow, heavy mush, etc. A reduction in the sidecut might help them be a little less hooky in funky stuff, but it's not a deal breaker. If I know for sure that I'm going to be skiing downright bad conditions I typically take something else.

I've been really surprised by the durability of them so far - I've got a good bit of vertical on them, and even the topsheets aren't showing the normal chipping you'd expect.
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Question from Corbett
Do you have a pair of these set up for demo or rental? Size 184?
Answer from jbo
Hi Corbett, we have a 177 you could possibly use, depending on your boot sole length. Send an e-mail to to reserve.
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Question from David
Can you recommend a pre-cut skin that will fit my Movement Response-X size 185? Thanks.
Answer from jbo
Hi David, the Session skis are identical in dimension so you'll want those.
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Question from Patti
Hi Trace, Thanks for the info on the Movement Response's. I bought the 161 length and am about to mount the bindings. Is the arrow next to the serial number the mid point for mounting? Also would you recommend mounting the binding 1 cm forward for women?
Thanks a bunch!
Answer from jbo
Hi Patti, yes the little arrow is the recommended boot center. No need to move forward as a woman. Looking forward to your review!
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Question from Patti
I am looking at purchasing some backcountry ski's and I like the Response X's but I am a bit concerned that these may be a bit too stiff for me as I am 5'2" and weigh 118lb, I have Scott Celeste Boots with the Fritschi Vipec bindings. I am a fairly aggressive advanced skier.

I am also looking at the Womens blue Blizzard, 85 waist ski and the Movement Vertex X. Can you make a recommendation for me?
Thanks so much!
Answer from Trace Leches
Hey Patti! We've had a few women your size on these skis and have had nothing but thumbs up from them. As far as stiffness goes the Vertex is the same, just a difference in width. The Zero G 85 will be a bit stiffer and favor longer carving turns, whereas the Response accomplishes the happy medium between being a stiff ski with a long precise edge hold and a soft, buttery ski that likes to slide a bit more. To give you an idea of who else is skiing these, the folks around here that really know their skis seem to gravitate towards the Response.
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Question from Caitlin
I am trying to figure out what length to get (177 or 169 cm).
I am 5'11, female, 170 lbs.

Answer from jbo
Hi Caitlin, you could go either way so it's more a usage question. For mountaineering and spring skiing the shorter length would be good. For everyday touring and powder hunting the 177 would be a bit better.
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bmiller (used product regularly)
A very nice ski. I have put around 30,000 feet of touring on them and a little lift assisted touring.

Me: 6'0" 160lbs type III +/-
Skis: 169 X Response with speed radical binding and dynafit tlt6 boot

Conditions from great to good to bad: ice, crust, wind blown, powder, corn to slush. My typical ski is a 170+ but for this ski I got a 169. I was a little concerned I'd gone too short but they ski'd well for being a smaller ski, toured nicely and handled the conditions well.
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Nat (used product regularly)
The Movement Response-X Ski is hands down my favorite small(er) waisted ski I have ever used. I am 5'10, 145lbs, and chose to go with the 177cm length as a do everything fast and light ski. I paired them with Plum 170 bindings with the additional ski crampon and heel riser options. This, I feel, is the perfect versatile combo as I like the option to go between my TLT6P and Alien 1.0 boots. These past few weeks in the Wasatch I have skied them in knee to waist deep powder and truly enjoyed every turn. They float incredibly well for their dimensions, feel very stable at speed, and offer quick/responsive/predicable handling. On firm snow they hold a great edge and don't feel squirrelly like some of the other similar dimensioned skis I've owned. I will update this review as I put additional time on them throughout the season - but at this time I could not be more pleased. My recommendation is to grab a pair while you can (these are incredibly popular from what I understand) and open your world to the possibility of bigger, faster, more fun days in the mountains! Enjoy. I sure am.
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Question from michael ferdiny
Hi, I want to buy from you a response x, but I am not sure about the length: I am 6.2 feet tall by 220 lbs. used to do a lot of ski mountaineering in europe till 15 years ago. But now I want to start again. Should I go with the 185 or the 177?
thanks for your help!
Answer from jbo
Hi Michael, for pure skiing I would recommend the 185 for you. For heading uphill, skis on your back, tight switchbacks, etc, the 177 would be more manageable.
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Question from Will Griffis
I am 6 feet 185 lbs and an advanced skier but not aggressive any more at age 60. Which size movement response x ski should I buy?

What skins go best with the skis?
Answer from jbo
Hi Will, I would recommend the 177s. That gives you enough length for your size skiing-wise, and is still fairly manageable on the uphill through switchbacks and such.

Movement uses the Colltex skins for their branded ones, although the Pomoca CPGs are really nice as well. 120mm wide is enough for full coverage.
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Question from Stephanie
Do you have the Movement Response in the 161 length?
Answer from jbo
Hi Stephanie, we have more 161s scheduled to arrive before October, so hopefully they will be here soon.
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Question from peg
I am just moving to AT from telemark and am 120lb 5'5", not sure what length to buy.
Answer from jbo
Welcome Peg, I will send you an e-mail to learn a bit more about your plans & style before giving a recommendation.
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Question from Mark Angevine
I am interested in the Response-X to use both on piste and off. I am 5'9" and weight 157 lbs, and I have generally used 175-177 length skis the last few years. A couple of reviewers mentioned that they ski this length, but were much heavier guys (200+). Should I go down to a shorter size? I am not a really fast or aggressive skier anymore; at 61 I'm happy to just keep going uphill and down with some efficiency.
Answer from jbo
Hey Mark, from a pure skiing standpoint the 177 is still good for you. Lots of folks (including myself) shave some centimeters for mountaineering though, as it is more manageable for all the non-skiing parts (and some of the tight skiing). Since you're also using it at the resort, I think I would stick with the 177.
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Jonathan S (used product regularly)
Overall: Four Stars for an incredible ratio of surface area to weight, with float in unconsolidated snow far above (both literally and figuratively?) what would be expected from the 89mm waist. But minus a star short of perfect for firm-snow carving that is less than what I had hoped – perhaps unrealistically, especially given my alpine racing background (and given all the other entirely positive reviews), but I feel like the Response-X skis like a much wider ski, for both better and worse.

Background on product familiarity: I skied on the 2013-14 version in a 169cm for almost 43,000 earned vertical plus several lift-served runs, mounted with Dynafit Speed Superlite bindings, driven by Scarpa Alien 1.0 boots. Conditions ranged from nearly perfect to nearly indescribably bad. Somewhat similar skis I have used include the Hagan Y Flow (173cm, 87mm waist with significant rocker), Dynafit Manaslu (169cm, 92mm with early rise tip), Movement Logic-X (168cm, 88mm waist with traditional camber and geometry), and Dynafit Mustagh Ata Superlight (169cm, 89mm with traditional camber and geometry).

First, the first impressions out of the box: I had been an early adopter of the Movement X-Series for the 2010-11 season, both their skimo Fish-X and the all-around Logic-X (reviewed here: I was hoping that the Response-X would retain all of the firm-snow carving ability of the Logic-X, while improving the performance even more in unconsolidated snow by the addition of tip rocker (plus another 1mm of width throughout). Side-by-side with the Logic-X, the tip geometry of the Response-X is far different, both the early rise and the shape. (And the Response-X ditches the Logic-X’s final ~2cm of upturned tail, which had been utterly pointless except for hampering the ability to jam the tails straight into the snow.)

All 14 binding holes drilled out very nicely with the screws seated securely – except for one that I botched by foolishly and lazily trying to force in a screw that started crooked. Fortunately the helicoil went in very well. Overall, an impressively secure mount for such a light ski. (And note that unlike some other light high-carbon skis, the profile is of normal thickness, so no need to compromise retention by filing down screw lengths.)

Second impressions, in use: Overall, the Response-X excelled in all sorts of unconsolidated snow. In untracked powder that had formed a slight crust at the lower elevations, the Response-X skied better that the Manaslu had the prior day in the same location. In a varying combination of sheltered powder and potentially tricky windslab, the Response-X easily handled the constant transitions. Returning from Mount Hood’s Hogsback through the Palmer snowfield (which had been open to lift-served skier traffic early in the day), the Response-X plowed through the rapidly setting up piles of loose corn, which would usually have me thinking mainly about my ACL.

Exiting through a lower-elevation gully on Mount Saint Helens, the Response-X was so much fun in overly ripe corn (probably more so than the twice-as-heavy skis of my four partners, whom I’d arranged to meet at summit, which is a nice arrangement when on a ski this light). Probably so much fun as to even encourage unsafe habits with regard to danger from wet slides and rockfall! In breakable crust, it managed as well as pretty much anything could. In heavy isothermal almost bottomless mank – well, that one outing was really pushing it, but at least both the skis and I survived.

But on nice lift-served groomed corn, I had to get my skis way out from underneath me, drawing on all my gs racer and race coach angulation skills, to produce the true two-footed carve I would have expected to come far more easily from the Response-X, especially given my experience with the Logic-X. Ditto for some brief experience with a groomer.

I could even feel this to some extent when deskinning as I pushed off against one deskinned ski while messing with the other. I suspect the culprit could be the relationship between the sidecut position versus the tip rocker?

Fortunately, in “firm” “snow” more typical of a ski mountaineering situation, the Response-X was fine when having to put them sideways and not being concerned about race-precision carving. Coming down twice from just below Mount Hood’s Hogsback in mid April, the uneven frozen surface sparkled beautifully, but skied ugly – I knew it wasn’t just me since other skiers were downhiking (and not just telemark skiers, but skiers on AT gear, even sporting technical ice tools from their summit bids).

Third impressions, for long-term durability: I can’t pass judgment on that yet given my usage. And my similarly constructed Logic-X are still relatively low usage. However, my similarly constructed Movement Fish-X rando race skis are in excellent condition despite logging almost 386,000 of earned vertical feet, plus a bit of lift-served, and also sporting three sets of holes in the heel area.
Reply from Kerry
Jonathan, thanks for the review. Can you compare edge hold of Response X to the Manaslu on steep/firm/icy? (Are your Manaslus of the 2010-2013 variety? Use Alien 1.0 also in Manaslu?)
Ever use a stiffer boot on the Response X? I skimo in Alien 1.0 too, but prefer TLT-5 P for the kind of skiing you've described here.
Reply from Jonathan S
Hard for me to compare the two, since they seem so different to me in so many ways. My Manaslu is the original generation, which continued on until recently as the women’s version (while the men’s/unisex became a bit stiffer). And note that the new 2014-15 version is entirely unrelated (but for the name).
I’ve used my Manaslu almost exclusively for backcountry powder. During my one run on a relatively steep groomer, I thought it held fine, but not much of a carver since the sidecut is so straight.
By contrast, the Response-X is a much more responsive and precise carver once it’s highly angulated since the sidecut is much more pronounced, and stiffer too (as least compared to my retroactively deemed women’s Manaslu).
I’ve used the Response-X exclusively with the Alien 1.0, and the Manaslu exclusively with the original-generation DyNA and then the TLT5p. I don’t think that’s a factor though, given that both boots are very stiff laterally.
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Question from Court
Do these come with skins? I thought I remember seeing that before but I don't currently see anything indicating this.
Answer from jbo
Hi Court, we sold these last season paired with matching skins. Unfortunately we won't be getting those this season due to logistical difficulties. We will have the same Colltex Mix skins, just not pre-cut or Movement branded. We can trim them for you if you want. The good news is the price is much lower on the skis.
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Question from Lars Sönsteröd
Planning a trip for USA next winter. The San Francisco, Tahoe area where I have some acquaintances for skiing.

My plan is not to bring my old equipment and buy new on place.
I want to buy a pair of Responce X length 177, bindings dynafit and a pair of boots Scarpa or Dynafit size 41.5 or 42.

Do you have a dealer and the associated goods on location? Prices?

Kind regards
Answer from jbo
Hi Lars, welcome to the states, I hope Tahoe gets enough snow for you this year! We are based in Salt Lake City but can ship to Tahoe or SF in 1-2 days. Check out our packages section for deals on a whole rig. It would help to know your exact boot size ahead of time to avoid returns if you're only here for a short time.
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Mandy (used product a few times)
These skis are so light they make climbing a cinch, and the early rise, width and shape make turning effortless - you just think turn and there you are (good thing in tight trees). Plus, the support, information and encouragement provided by Skimo was fantastic.
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Erik (used product regularly)
I bought these skis new this year and have spent about two weeks skiing the Teton Valley backcountry on them so far. I skied wind scoured snow and icy conditions at 10,000+ feet, deep powder mid and lower mountain and breakable crust here and there.

Needless to say, I'm a big fan. I am particularly impressed how they skied a foot plus of new powder. I'm 6"4, 210 lbs, and I don't feel the need for a "wide body" ski while skiing Teton powder. These skis ski everything just fine and are super light on the skin track.

I'm looking forward to skiing them in the Alps this spring!
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Nate (used product a few times)
Got these skis for a deal on and had my first chance to use them in the Wasatch yesterday (12/21/13). Fresh 8" really let the early rise tips show their stuff. It took a couple of runs to get used to how much these skis want to be driven. I'm used to having to sit back in the powder to get my tips to rise, but these demand forward cuff pressure and when you do you get rewarded with intuitive turning and excellent stability. I weight 205# and I picked the 177 length to save weight, regardless these skis floated through the soft surprisingly well. It also took a little time to get used to how light these skis are. I mean I bought them because they're light but until I had them on my feet and started hiking up hill I had no idea how big a difference a few hundred grams would make. I felt like I had rockets on my boot on the up. Even skiing down it was amazing how easy they swing around into the turn. I suppose I should reserve final judgment until I have them in more challenging conditions, but so far they have been worth every penny. Great ski. I'm very excited to put them through their paces this season.
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