Movement is aiming the Response-X at mountain guides and skiers who go on multi-day tours. Well, we think that if you ever ski back-to-back one-day tours, that is close enough. Weighing in at a little over a kilo, the Response-X will help prevent leg-hangover after a long day of climbing. And with a light rocker tip and a heavy dose of carbon technology, the ski could surprise you on the down with its overall performance and edge hold. While excelling on hard snow often found in shadowed couloirs, the 89mm wide body and rocker will also help you ski variable conditions from powder to wet snow that you may find on the way there. Note this ski replaces the much-loved Logic-X from previous seasons.
- Impressive surface-to-weight ratio tours like a race ski and skis like an adult ski.
- Karuba Paulownia light wood core is combined with some Poplar to balance liveliness and weight.
- Patented Thin Ply Technology (TPT) wraps the core with tri-axial carbon fibers spun around the ski.
- Sintered bases use 1.3mm of P-Tex 4000 for decent core protection and smooth glide.
- Part of X-Series skis that use semi-secret Movement Light Technology X, a unique carbon manufacturing process.
Update 2015/16: The Response gets a new paint job but otherwise is the same, thankfully.
** Telemarkers: Movement does not recommend mounting telemark bindings on these skis.
Specifications | |
Lengths (cm) | 161, 169, 177, 185 |
Weight |
1035g [161] 1095g [169] 1195g [177] 1250g [185] |
Weight (pair) | 2070g [161] 2190g [169] 2390g [177] 2500g [185] |
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124-89-112 [161] 126-89-114 [169] 128-89-116 [177] 128-89-116 [185] |
Turn |
16.5m [161] 17.5m [169] 18.0m [177] 19.0m [185] |
Skin |
Curved tip, flat tail notch |
Specs Verified | Yes |
Design | |
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Gentle rocker, camber underneath |
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short-to-medium radius, flat tail |
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Cap w/ TPT technology |
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Karuba & Poplar wood |
Skimo Co Says | |
Usage | Long tours with variable snow |
Notes | Amazing surface-to-weight ratio |
Bottom Line | Ski anything without getting tired |
Questions & Reviews
I own this pair of Movement X Response (185 / 1.2kg) and am just delighted with it, combined with a (heavy, 1.1kg) Fritschi Freeride Pro binding, it just skies so great carving on slope and floating in powder.
Now today I would like to almost get the same ski (discontinued I know), but combine it with a lighter binding setup (ATK 13 for example) for more uphill-oriented days. Which ski comes closest today from movement or other brands?
Huge thanks
If possible, I would consider remounting your current skis. An equivalent ski might be hard to find. The same shape was continued with a different construction in the Movement Alp Tracks 89, so that would be the ski to look for. Unfortunately, they are also discontinued. If you cannot find a pair of those, then one ski with a somewhat similar feel would be the Dynafit Blacklight 88. It is also a fairly stiff, but not unforgiving ski that likes to finish its turns and has great edge hold. It also does quite well in powder for its width, and is a similar underfoot width to the Alp Tracks 89.
The Response-X is a great mid-winter daily touring ski for me here in the Wasatch. They are stupid easy to ski - my first turns on them required no thought whatsoever and were just plain fun. I've been pleasantly surprised how well they handle powder, and they've become my go-to ski in anything fresh. I've skied them in some of the best of the very deep conditions we've been fortunate enough to have this winter, and really unless there's over 18" of fresh powder, they're more than enough ski for me. They float great and are comfortable at much higher speed than I anticipated for a ski this light. In any sort of consistent conditions (pow, corn, firm), they're a dream. I've been stunned to be treating my 89mm waist ski as a "powder ski" but that's the role they've snuck into in my quiver.
In funky snow, they get tossed around. No surprise for a ski+binding combo < 1400g/foot. They're also a little hooky in variable stuff - wind affected snow, heavy mush, etc. A reduction in the sidecut might help them be a little less hooky in funky stuff, but it's not a deal breaker. If I know for sure that I'm going to be skiing downright bad conditions I typically take something else.
I've been really surprised by the durability of them so far - I've got a good bit of vertical on them, and even the topsheets aren't showing the normal chipping you'd expect.
Thanks a bunch!
Patti
I am also looking at the Womens blue Blizzard, 85 waist ski and the Movement Vertex X. Can you make a recommendation for me?
Thanks so much!
I am 5'11, female, 170 lbs.
Thanks!
Me: 6'0" 160lbs type III +/-
Skis: 169 X Response with speed radical binding and dynafit tlt6 boot
Conditions from great to good to bad: ice, crust, wind blown, powder, corn to slush. My typical ski is a 170+ but for this ski I got a 169. I was a little concerned I'd gone too short but they ski'd well for being a smaller ski, toured nicely and handled the conditions well.
thanks for your help!
Michael
What skins go best with the skis?
Movement uses the Colltex skins for their branded ones, although the Pomoca CPGs are really nice as well. 120mm wide is enough for full coverage.
Thanks!
Background on product familiarity: I skied on the 2013-14 version in a 169cm for almost 43,000 earned vertical plus several lift-served runs, mounted with Dynafit Speed Superlite bindings, driven by Scarpa Alien 1.0 boots. Conditions ranged from nearly perfect to nearly indescribably bad. Somewhat similar skis I have used include the Hagan Y Flow (173cm, 87mm waist with significant rocker), Dynafit Manaslu (169cm, 92mm with early rise tip), Movement Logic-X (168cm, 88mm waist with traditional camber and geometry), and Dynafit Mustagh Ata Superlight (169cm, 89mm with traditional camber and geometry).
First, the first impressions out of the box: I had been an early adopter of the Movement X-Series for the 2010-11 season, both their skimo Fish-X and the all-around Logic-X (reviewed here: https://www.wildsnow.com/4181/movement-logic-x-series-review/). I was hoping that the Response-X would retain all of the firm-snow carving ability of the Logic-X, while improving the performance even more in unconsolidated snow by the addition of tip rocker (plus another 1mm of width throughout). Side-by-side with the Logic-X, the tip geometry of the Response-X is far different, both the early rise and the shape. (And the Response-X ditches the Logic-X’s final ~2cm of upturned tail, which had been utterly pointless except for hampering the ability to jam the tails straight into the snow.)
All 14 binding holes drilled out very nicely with the screws seated securely – except for one that I botched by foolishly and lazily trying to force in a screw that started crooked. Fortunately the helicoil went in very well. Overall, an impressively secure mount for such a light ski. (And note that unlike some other light high-carbon skis, the profile is of normal thickness, so no need to compromise retention by filing down screw lengths.)
Second impressions, in use: Overall, the Response-X excelled in all sorts of unconsolidated snow. In untracked powder that had formed a slight crust at the lower elevations, the Response-X skied better that the Manaslu had the prior day in the same location. In a varying combination of sheltered powder and potentially tricky windslab, the Response-X easily handled the constant transitions. Returning from Mount Hood’s Hogsback through the Palmer snowfield (which had been open to lift-served skier traffic early in the day), the Response-X plowed through the rapidly setting up piles of loose corn, which would usually have me thinking mainly about my ACL.
Exiting through a lower-elevation gully on Mount Saint Helens, the Response-X was so much fun in overly ripe corn (probably more so than the twice-as-heavy skis of my four partners, whom I’d arranged to meet at summit, which is a nice arrangement when on a ski this light). Probably so much fun as to even encourage unsafe habits with regard to danger from wet slides and rockfall! In breakable crust, it managed as well as pretty much anything could. In heavy isothermal almost bottomless mank – well, that one outing was really pushing it, but at least both the skis and I survived.
But on nice lift-served groomed corn, I had to get my skis way out from underneath me, drawing on all my gs racer and race coach angulation skills, to produce the true two-footed carve I would have expected to come far more easily from the Response-X, especially given my experience with the Logic-X. Ditto for some brief experience with a groomer.
I could even feel this to some extent when deskinning as I pushed off against one deskinned ski while messing with the other. I suspect the culprit could be the relationship between the sidecut position versus the tip rocker?
Fortunately, in “firm” “snow” more typical of a ski mountaineering situation, the Response-X was fine when having to put them sideways and not being concerned about race-precision carving. Coming down twice from just below Mount Hood’s Hogsback in mid April, the uneven frozen surface sparkled beautifully, but skied ugly – I knew it wasn’t just me since other skiers were downhiking (and not just telemark skiers, but skiers on AT gear, even sporting technical ice tools from their summit bids).
Third impressions, for long-term durability: I can’t pass judgment on that yet given my usage. And my similarly constructed Logic-X are still relatively low usage. However, my similarly constructed Movement Fish-X rando race skis are in excellent condition despite logging almost 386,000 of earned vertical feet, plus a bit of lift-served, and also sporting three sets of holes in the heel area.
Ever use a stiffer boot on the Response X? I skimo in Alien 1.0 too, but prefer TLT-5 P for the kind of skiing you've described here.
Thanks,
Kerry
I’ve used my Manaslu almost exclusively for backcountry powder. During my one run on a relatively steep groomer, I thought it held fine, but not much of a carver since the sidecut is so straight.
By contrast, the Response-X is a much more responsive and precise carver once it’s highly angulated since the sidecut is much more pronounced, and stiffer too (as least compared to my retroactively deemed women’s Manaslu).
I’ve used the Response-X exclusively with the Alien 1.0, and the Manaslu exclusively with the original-generation DyNA and then the TLT5p. I don’t think that’s a factor though, given that both boots are very stiff laterally.
My plan is not to bring my old equipment and buy new on place.
I want to buy a pair of Responce X length 177, bindings dynafit and a pair of boots Scarpa or Dynafit size 41.5 or 42.
Do you have a dealer and the associated goods on location? Prices?
Kind regards
Lars
Needless to say, I'm a big fan. I am particularly impressed how they skied a foot plus of new powder. I'm 6"4, 210 lbs, and I don't feel the need for a "wide body" ski while skiing Teton powder. These skis ski everything just fine and are super light on the skin track.
I'm looking forward to skiing them in the Alps this spring!
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