Would a 27/12mm be the right size for a 26.5 Scarpa Quattro boot that needs some snugging up in the calf and ankle?
Also, are there noticeable differences between the old vs new version of this liner?
Intuition Tour Wrap Liners
Do you enjoy bombing downhill at 60 MPH with your shins lovingly cradled in a roll of confidence-inspiring foam? Do you find yourself bottoming out the flex on your current boots, or have low-volume calves and bony shins in desperate need of padding? If you answered "yes" to any of these questions, Intuition is at your service with the Tour Wrap, a wrap-style liner designed specifically for big days in the mountains.
The Tour Wrap liner provides plenty of stiffness and cushion while a rear flex panel allows for an ample range of motion while touring. An optional Velcro and lace closure system snugs the liner up as tight as you want. The removable 4mm foam shim creates lots of fit options: remove them to increase volume, replace them with a custom orthotic, or layer another footbed on top to decrease volume. Constructed with Dual Density foam, they can be worn directly out of the box or molded for a precise fit. Compared to the previous iteration, this latest model features an updated 4mm sole (instead of 7mm) and a revised J-Bar in the ankle for support and comfort. Whether adding cushion to protect your shins or just prefer a wrap-style liner, the Tour Wrap is for you.
- Wrap style is a good option for those needing to take up volume in the calves or to protect their shins.
- Rear flex panel allows for a good range of motion, helping you move through the mountains efficiently.
- Removable 4mm foam insole creates many fit options.
- Heat moldable but can be worn out of the box.
- Optional Velcro and lace closure system.
- Webbing tabs give you something to hold and pull while getting in and out of the liner.
- Anti-microbial treatment helps to keep your liners smelling fresh.
- 4mm thick "J Bar" pads provide support for the ankle.
- Low Volume is 9mm while the medium volume is 12mm.
Sizing: For boots that break on the whole size, round down. For example, a 27/27.5 boot should use a size 27 liner. For boots that break on the half size, such as SCARPA, round up. For example, a 26.5/27 boot should use a size 27 liner.
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2/27/2024
2/27/2024
Hi Chuck! For your boot and fit goals, I'd suggest considering the 9mm. The 12mm would likely be too much liner for the upper cuff of your boot. The 9mm would fit better, while still snugging up your calf and ankle. Thanks!
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2/22/2024
Just ordered the Phantom Slipper HD for hardboot splitting. Size 28. I have a skinnier ankle/calf. Do you suggest the Tour Wrap low volume? Go with size 28? Any other liner I should look into for comparison?
Thanks!
Thanks!
2/22/2024
Hi Christopher! The low volume Tour Wrap could work for your application, but is likely not the best combination as this wrap liner is intended for beefier boots. Something like the Palau Power LT would be better suited for your boot while still taking up volume in the ankle/calf. Send us an email at help@skimo.co if you'd like to chat more. Thanks!
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2/14/2024
Which thickness would you recommend for a Fischer Transalp Pro with a fairly tight shell fit?
Any reason to not get these over the Tour Pros?
Any reason to not get these over the Tour Pros?
2/15/2024
Hi Jack,
You will definitely want the low volume 9mm thickness if you want to go with a Wrap and you have a tight fit in the shell.
The reason to go for the wrap over the Pro Tour/Tour Tongue is to add padding and material around the calf/shin for folks with skinny lower legs. It will also be a stiffer than the tongue-style liner. If you do not need this extra support/cushion, then you may want to go for the tongue-style liner, because it will walk better.
You will definitely want the low volume 9mm thickness if you want to go with a Wrap and you have a tight fit in the shell.
The reason to go for the wrap over the Pro Tour/Tour Tongue is to add padding and material around the calf/shin for folks with skinny lower legs. It will also be a stiffer than the tongue-style liner. If you do not need this extra support/cushion, then you may want to go for the tongue-style liner, because it will walk better.
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2/11/2024
Would these fit a scarpa freedom sl?
thanks
thanks
2/12/2024
Luciano,
Yes, the Intuition Wrap or Tongue liners are the Best replacement liners for the Freedom boots.
Yes, the Intuition Wrap or Tongue liners are the Best replacement liners for the Freedom boots.
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1/26/2024
Hi
Do think the Tour Wrap liners fit for the Scarpa Quattros? Need to take awway some room for skinny calves and look for a tighter forefoot.
Do think the Tour Wrap liners fit for the Scarpa Quattros? Need to take awway some room for skinny calves and look for a tighter forefoot.
1/26/2024
Hi Bruno,
Yes, this would be a great pairing for the Scarpa Quattro if you have enough room in the boot to accommodate a wrap and thicker foam! The 12mm would be your best bet for tightening up the fit - you will want to get it heat molded to ensure the most comfortable fit.
Yes, this would be a great pairing for the Scarpa Quattro if you have enough room in the boot to accommodate a wrap and thicker foam! The 12mm would be your best bet for tightening up the fit - you will want to get it heat molded to ensure the most comfortable fit.
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12/23/2023
Hey Guys,
In need of a new liner for Hoji pro tour boots. Boots are a few years old, black and orange, first addition. Interested in the tour wrap. Shell size 27.5. Low volume feet.
Thoughts on a medium or low volume liner and integration to this shell type?
Thanks
In need of a new liner for Hoji pro tour boots. Boots are a few years old, black and orange, first addition. Interested in the tour wrap. Shell size 27.5. Low volume feet.
Thoughts on a medium or low volume liner and integration to this shell type?
Thanks
12/23/2023
Hi Mason! You could use either liner with that boot, it'd just depend on your foot and calf volume. With lower volume feet in mind, you'd likely find success with the medium volume after a heat mold. Thanks!
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12/18/2023
I have some new Dynafit Tigard 130 boots (size 26). Experiencing shin pressure on the right shin. I am thinking about trying these Tour Wrap liners to alleviate the issue. I came from old Scarpa Maestrales with Intuition liners and never experienced a problem.
I have skinny calves and narrow, flat feet. Does this seem like a logical place to start to take up some cuff volume and reduce shin pressure points?
Are the two volume sizes offered on your site referencing the 9mm and 12mm offerings Intuition produces?
Thank you
I have skinny calves and narrow, flat feet. Does this seem like a logical place to start to take up some cuff volume and reduce shin pressure points?
Are the two volume sizes offered on your site referencing the 9mm and 12mm offerings Intuition produces?
Thank you
12/19/2023
Hi Isaac, these wraps sound like a good option for you, they have slightly bulkier cuffs than the tongue liners. The 9mm is Low Volume and 12mm is Medium Volume, yes. Do note that the stock Tigard liner is a quite plush 15mm foam, so you may want to consider a 15mm High Volume Intuition if you're looking to take up even more space.
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12/12/2023
Would these work with an old pair of Mango Maestrale's? I just replaced the tongue rivets and a fresh pair of liners would bring life to these boots.
12/12/2023
Hey Brent, these should work pretty well in either a low or medium volume, the latter being a closer equivalent to the original liner. I also would highly recommend a heat mold to improve the initial fit, as they are quite beefy.
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11/27/2023
Hi!
I am looking at Intuition Tour Wraps as I want to replace stock tongue Intuition liners in my 2022 Roxa R3 110 Ti touring boots for better downhill performance. I have wide feet with skinny ankles and high instep, and have been quite happy with wrap liners so far (my downhill boots are Dalbello Kryptons).
Would you recommend a MV or LV Tour Wrap? Could there be a problem fitting a (cooked) Tour Wrap with a custom footbed into a Roxa shell (assuming both are same mondo size)?
Thanks, Vlad
I am looking at Intuition Tour Wraps as I want to replace stock tongue Intuition liners in my 2022 Roxa R3 110 Ti touring boots for better downhill performance. I have wide feet with skinny ankles and high instep, and have been quite happy with wrap liners so far (my downhill boots are Dalbello Kryptons).
Would you recommend a MV or LV Tour Wrap? Could there be a problem fitting a (cooked) Tour Wrap with a custom footbed into a Roxa shell (assuming both are same mondo size)?
Thanks, Vlad
11/27/2023
Vlad, Can be tough choosing an aftermarket liner, and we don't have the Roxa to look at. From what I see, the R3 is a narrow 99mm last. And you have a wide foot with high instep. So I would assume you have a very snug fit, Right? If that's the case, the Low Volume 9mm liner would be better. And use the included J bars, and maybe more boot foam to secure your ankle. Adding a footbed is always helpful.
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11/24/2023
Hi I have some Salomon MTN Summit boots (size 28/28.5), but am finding I have some extra room around my ankles / instep with the stock liners (I have skinny calves and ankles). Would this liner help take up some of that space and provide a bit more comfort in that area? I am having to secure the cuff of the boot quite tight when skiing so my calves are squeezed yet my ankle / instep is a bit loose even when tightening down the boa snugly. Thank you!
11/24/2023
Hi Scott, the Low Volume Tour Wrap could be an option to take up more room, the Medium Volume might be pushing what the MTN Summit shell can handle, but might work with a heat mold. I would recommend a heat mold in either case. The Intuition Tour Tongue Liners or the Palau Power LT Liners are all bulkier than the stock liner in that boot, too.
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11/20/2023
Hello,
I’m considering these for my Fisher Transalp Tour size 29.5. My stock liners are unimpressive. I’m hoping for more comfort around bony ankles and pressure point on top of my foot.
Would these be recommended?
I’m considering these for my Fisher Transalp Tour size 29.5. My stock liners are unimpressive. I’m hoping for more comfort around bony ankles and pressure point on top of my foot.
Would these be recommended?
11/21/2023
Hi Jessie,
These may work for you - they will add some padding around the ankle, more so in the medium volume than in the low. If you are experiencing instep pressure, you will need to heat mold them to relieve that - as they come stock, they are unlikely to be an improvement, simply because they are fairly thick. Being a wrap liner, you will also be taking up a lot of room in the cuff, so if the cuff is a tight fit, they may not be the best choice. They are best for folks with skinny calves looking to fill that space. They are also going to add a bit more friction to the walk mode.
The Intuition Tour Tongue would be another great Intuition liner that will have less of an effect on cuff volume, and walk a little better.
These may work for you - they will add some padding around the ankle, more so in the medium volume than in the low. If you are experiencing instep pressure, you will need to heat mold them to relieve that - as they come stock, they are unlikely to be an improvement, simply because they are fairly thick. Being a wrap liner, you will also be taking up a lot of room in the cuff, so if the cuff is a tight fit, they may not be the best choice. They are best for folks with skinny calves looking to fill that space. They are also going to add a bit more friction to the walk mode.
The Intuition Tour Tongue would be another great Intuition liner that will have less of an effect on cuff volume, and walk a little better.
11/21/2023
I definitely have skinny calves, and the walk mode is not something I’m worried about. I could definitely fill some space. They are very unrestricted in walk mode.
So if I have a low volume foot and leg, should I go for the medium or the low volume liner? The designation feels unclear .
So if I have a low volume foot and leg, should I go for the medium or the low volume liner? The designation feels unclear .
11/21/2023
Hi Jessie,
Okay, sounds like these could work well for you! With liners, the volume refers to the amount of volume the liner takes up. So a medium-volume liner is thicker than a low-volume. In this case, 12mm versus 9mm.
I think the 12mm (medium) will do a better job filling up space in the boot if that's what you're looking for. If you have instep pressure, you will need to do a more aggressive heat mold to compress the instep. This is best done at a competent local shop - if you want to talk through this process more, reach out to us by email at help@skimo.co!
Okay, sounds like these could work well for you! With liners, the volume refers to the amount of volume the liner takes up. So a medium-volume liner is thicker than a low-volume. In this case, 12mm versus 9mm.
I think the 12mm (medium) will do a better job filling up space in the boot if that's what you're looking for. If you have instep pressure, you will need to do a more aggressive heat mold to compress the instep. This is best done at a competent local shop - if you want to talk through this process more, reach out to us by email at help@skimo.co!
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11/19/2023
Looking for a replacement liner for my La Sportiva Synchro Boots (size 26). Their EZ Wrap Replacement Liners are all sold out in this size. Curious if these would be compatible with my boot.
11/20/2023
Hi Matt,
These would be a good alternative to the EZ Wrap liner! They should work in that boot. If you have a tighter fit in the cuff, choose the low volume liner. If you need to fill up more space, the medium will give you a lot more foam. As with any Intuition liner, these should be heat molded for an ideal fit.
These would be a good alternative to the EZ Wrap liner! They should work in that boot. If you have a tighter fit in the cuff, choose the low volume liner. If you need to fill up more space, the medium will give you a lot more foam. As with any Intuition liner, these should be heat molded for an ideal fit.
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11/16/2023
Will this type of liner be a good fit for the radical pro? I have them in 26,5 so i should get these in 26 right?
11/16/2023
Hi Simon,
Yes, you would want the size 26 in this liner. They would be a great option for the Radical Pro if you want the benefits of a wrap-style liner, which include more padding on the shin and generally a tighter fit in the cuff. You choose these for a boost in downhill performance and comfort. The downside of a wrap is slightly reduced range of motion on the uphill compared to a tongue-style liner. For another great option from Intuition that has a tongue, check out the Intuition Tour Tongue!
Please note that with any Intuition liner, you will need to heat mold it to get the best fit and comfort!
Yes, you would want the size 26 in this liner. They would be a great option for the Radical Pro if you want the benefits of a wrap-style liner, which include more padding on the shin and generally a tighter fit in the cuff. You choose these for a boost in downhill performance and comfort. The downside of a wrap is slightly reduced range of motion on the uphill compared to a tongue-style liner. For another great option from Intuition that has a tongue, check out the Intuition Tour Tongue!
Please note that with any Intuition liner, you will need to heat mold it to get the best fit and comfort!
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11/7/2023
I'm looking at these as a possible replacement for my Alien RS liners. I have very skinny calves and a size 29 boot. I like the idea of maybe getting some more downhill performance out of the boot with a beefed up liner, but am wondering if this is just too extreme of a match up with the Alien RS shell. My feet currently have lots of extra room in the forefoot and I have the cuff cranked about as tight as I can get it. Let me know what you think!
11/7/2023
Hi Samuel,
You could do it, as long as you're okay with adding a lot of friction to the walk mode. It wouldn't be our first recommendation for most people in that boot, but a wrap liner is a great way to fill up a cuff for someone with skinny calves. I would probably try the low volume liner, I think the MV might be too much to stuff into that shell. If you want to discuss further, feel free to email us at help@skimo.co!
You could do it, as long as you're okay with adding a lot of friction to the walk mode. It wouldn't be our first recommendation for most people in that boot, but a wrap liner is a great way to fill up a cuff for someone with skinny calves. I would probably try the low volume liner, I think the MV might be too much to stuff into that shell. If you want to discuss further, feel free to email us at help@skimo.co!
11/7/2023
Cool. Thank you! I'll probably reach out about other options
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10/16/2023
I have a Scarpa F1 in a 28.0 and I was wondering will these fit that shell if I get the LV? I tried a MV and the shell fit was too tight.
10/16/2023
Hi Joel! We do not have these in store yet so I am unable to test. They would likely work, but continue anticipate a tighter fit particularly in the upper cuff when compared to the stock liner due to the wrapping design. Our suggested replacement liner for the F1 is the Tour Pro/Tour Tongue. Feel free to reach out with any further questions. Thanks!
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9/20/2023
This construction looks different than previous years. Beyond changes to the lacing pattern (shorter), has intuition changed anything else for the 23-24 model year?
9/22/2023
Hi Michael, We haven't gotten a chance to get our hands on the new models yet, so can't say for sure, but we are not aware of any major changes. Check back with us in late October and we should have some!
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