I'm considering replacing my old boot Salomon MTN Lab from 2016, with either some new liners or the Tecnica Zero G Tour Pro.
I've tested the Tecnica boot, and I have to tighten the buckles to max on the upper two, and even then I feel I have som wiggle room in front of my leg.
In the Salomon I have no issues with tightening the boot, but it's still a bit lose and feel my leg moving under skiing.
Trying to decide wether to my an Intuition tongue or Wrap, the Tecnicas or both.
Intuition Tour Wrap Liners
Do you enjoy bombing downhill at 60 MPH with your shins lovingly cradled in a roll of confidence-inspiring foam? Do you find yourself bottoming out the flex on your current boots, or have low-volume calves and bony shins in desperate need of padding? If you answered "yes" to any of these questions, Intuition is at your service with the Tour Wrap, a wrap-style liner designed specifically for big days in the mountains.
The Tour Wrap liner provides plenty of stiffness and cushion while a rear flex panel allows for an ample range of motion while touring. An optional Velcro and lace closure system snugs the liner up as tight as you want. The removable 4mm foam shim creates lots of fit options: remove them to increase volume, replace them with a custom orthotic, or layer another footbed on top to decrease volume. Constructed with Dual Density foam, they can be worn directly out of the box or molded for a precise fit. Compared to the previous iteration, this latest model features an updated 4mm sole (instead of 7mm) and a revised J-Bar in the ankle for support and comfort. Whether adding cushion to protect your shins or just prefer a wrap-style liner, the Tour Wrap is for you.
- Wrap style is a good option for those needing to take up volume in the calves or to protect their shins.
- Rear flex panel allows for a good range of motion, helping you move through the mountains efficiently.
- Removable 4mm foam insole creates many fit options.
- Heat moldable but can be worn out of the box.
- Optional Velcro and lace closure system.
- Webbing tabs give you something to hold and pull while getting in and out of the liner.
- Anti-microbial treatment helps to keep your liners smelling fresh.
- 4mm thick "J Bar" pads provide support for the ankle.
- Low Volume is 9mm while the medium volume is 12mm.
Sizing: For boots that break on the whole size, round down. For example, a 27/27.5 boot should use a size 27 liner. For boots that break on the half size, such as SCARPA, round up. For example, a 26.5/27 boot should use a size 27 liner.
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4/29/2025
4/29/2025
Hi Benjamin,
Wrap liners can certainly help to tighten up the cuff of a boot! For folks with skinny calves and shins, they are great solutions. A Tour Wrap would be an appropriate liner in either of those two boots.
If you haven't, I would also recommend adjusting the buckle ladders to their smallest setting, which can help you get more tension on the cuff.
If you'd like to dive deeper into the fit of these two boots, feel free to email us at help@skimo.co, or fill out our online boot fitter!
Wrap liners can certainly help to tighten up the cuff of a boot! For folks with skinny calves and shins, they are great solutions. A Tour Wrap would be an appropriate liner in either of those two boots.
If you haven't, I would also recommend adjusting the buckle ladders to their smallest setting, which can help you get more tension on the cuff.
If you'd like to dive deeper into the fit of these two boots, feel free to email us at help@skimo.co, or fill out our online boot fitter!
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4/6/2025
Would these work for the Dynafit Radical Pro? When I did the finger test recommended by Intuition, I could fit almost 2 fingers behind my heel, so was going to do a 12 mm.
4/6/2025
Hi Mary,
Indeed, based on your 2-finger shell fit, I would say the 12mm is the correct thickness! A wrap liner will work well in the Radical Pro as long as you have enough room in the cuff to accommodate it. The only potential issue would be if you have larger calves and can't afford to add material to the cuff of the boot, as the wrap liners will be thicker in that area. Otherwise, wrap liners do a great job of providing comfort, compression, and good skiing performance!
Indeed, based on your 2-finger shell fit, I would say the 12mm is the correct thickness! A wrap liner will work well in the Radical Pro as long as you have enough room in the cuff to accommodate it. The only potential issue would be if you have larger calves and can't afford to add material to the cuff of the boot, as the wrap liners will be thicker in that area. Otherwise, wrap liners do a great job of providing comfort, compression, and good skiing performance!
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3/24/2025
Hi, I am looking to replace the liners in my Tecnica Zero G Scout touring boots. I'm a 24.5 and needing to fill some volume as I'm currently ratcheting down my buckles for stability, but it's quite uncomfortable. Trying to decide between the tour wrap vs. tongue and wondering what you'd advise? Will 12mm be too thick in this boot? Thanks.
3/25/2025
Hi Tess, a 12mm might be a bit thick, but if you've got too much space in the boot it could work. You can always heat mold it aggressively and pack it out. The wrap liner takes up a good bit more space in the cuff, and some folks find they help eliminate pressure points. If those aren't issues, the tongue liner will have better range of motion.
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3/24/2025
Hello! I am looking to purchase some new liners for my Lange XT3 120 (2022) ski boots. They are size 26.5. Would you recommend the low or mid-volume liner for this boot? Thank you!
3/24/2025
Hi Jackson, I'd go with the 12mm mid-volume.
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3/7/2025
I have a old pair of Garmont Excursions that I want to breathe life back into. The shells are 26/28.5 and I am a US men's 9.5 or 27.5 mondo (I believe).
Would these be a good choice? If so, should I just get the 27.5?
Would these be a good choice? If so, should I just get the 27.5?
3/7/2025
Greg, The excursion is a lower cut boot that this liner would stick out the top quite a bit. The sizing you are looking at is cuff size since manufacturers tend to use the same cuffs on mutiple sizes. Reach out to us at help@skimo.co with the outside length of the liner and lets see if we can find a new liner for you.
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2/5/2025
Hi,
I'm looking to replace the liners in my Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD 115 in 27/27.5. https://skimo.co/atomic-hawx-ultra-xtd-women
Currently having blister issues on my heel from it moving around inside the liner, and was hoping this liner would help resolve the issue. I was planning to get the 27 in medium volume.
1) Would these liners be a good fit for that boot?
2) Is there any significant difference between this year's and last year's version that would affect this?
Thanks in advance for the help!
I'm looking to replace the liners in my Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD 115 in 27/27.5. https://skimo.co/atomic-hawx-ultra-xtd-women
Currently having blister issues on my heel from it moving around inside the liner, and was hoping this liner would help resolve the issue. I was planning to get the 27 in medium volume.
1) Would these liners be a good fit for that boot?
2) Is there any significant difference between this year's and last year's version that would affect this?
Thanks in advance for the help!
2/5/2025
Hi, fill out our Boot Fitter or shoot us an email at help@skimo.co and we can go more in-depth!
These would be a good option. Worth noting that they'll take up a good bit more room in the cuff than the stock liner. They're a bit denser than the stock liner, so might help with your heels being too loose. The Patriot Footbeds Liner Sleeves might be worth a look if the heel is the only area that needs improvement, those will probably make more of a difference than a new liner.
The current/new model has more substantial ankle padding compared to the old one. The new one also has a bit of rubber traction on the sole, and the stock insole/shim is a little bit different. So pretty similar overall, but might be worth going for the new model for the ankle padding.
These would be a good option. Worth noting that they'll take up a good bit more room in the cuff than the stock liner. They're a bit denser than the stock liner, so might help with your heels being too loose. The Patriot Footbeds Liner Sleeves might be worth a look if the heel is the only area that needs improvement, those will probably make more of a difference than a new liner.
The current/new model has more substantial ankle padding compared to the old one. The new one also has a bit of rubber traction on the sole, and the stock insole/shim is a little bit different. So pretty similar overall, but might be worth going for the new model for the ankle padding.
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2/4/2025
I have the 26.5 Dynafit Ridge Pro and have toured/skied in them 3 times
Having trouble with excess volume around ankle and just above which is really affecting the skiing performance of the boot
I ordered a 26.0 Med vol tour wrap liner, but am concerned this might be too thick
I have a trip coming up and am short on time, so wondering if I should pre-emptively order a 26.0 low volume tour wrap liner just in case.
Thanks!
Having trouble with excess volume around ankle and just above which is really affecting the skiing performance of the boot
I ordered a 26.0 Med vol tour wrap liner, but am concerned this might be too thick
I have a trip coming up and am short on time, so wondering if I should pre-emptively order a 26.0 low volume tour wrap liner just in case.
Thanks!
2/4/2025
Hi George,
The MV Tour Wrap is pretty thick - thicker than most would want in the Ridge, I think. It might not be a bad idea to order the LV if you are concerned about it! The MV will certainly be thicker in the specific area that you need more material, which is potentially good, but it will also be quite a lot thicker in the cuff than the stock liner or the LV (the LV would be a bit thicker than the stock liner).
The MV Tour Wrap is pretty thick - thicker than most would want in the Ridge, I think. It might not be a bad idea to order the LV if you are concerned about it! The MV will certainly be thicker in the specific area that you need more material, which is potentially good, but it will also be quite a lot thicker in the cuff than the stock liner or the LV (the LV would be a bit thicker than the stock liner).
2/4/2025
Thanks! Looks like no LV available in 26
I think
I’ll try 9 and 12 mm tour tongue liners as an alternate?
I think
I’ll try 9 and 12 mm tour tongue liners as an alternate?
2/5/2025
Hi George,
The 9mm Tour Tongue would probably work well! If you get the 12mm and try that and it doesn't fit at all, go with a 9mm Tour Tongue. The 12mm Tour Tongue is still quite a bit thicker than the stock liner. In our opinion, the 9mm suits the Ridge quite well.
The 9mm Tour Tongue would probably work well! If you get the 12mm and try that and it doesn't fit at all, go with a 9mm Tour Tongue. The 12mm Tour Tongue is still quite a bit thicker than the stock liner. In our opinion, the 9mm suits the Ridge quite well.
2/25/2025
I ordered a 9 mm LV Tour Wrap from Intuition and they expedited it to me but a UPS shipping issue prevented them from
Arriving before my trip to Italy
I went to
My local
Bootfitter from whom I bought ridge pros
Looking at my feet and the liners (I also had LV and MV Tour Tongues in tow.
Bootfitter wisely suggested that we try the MV Tour Wrap to get biggest bang for buck (I wasn’t feeling it with the Tour tongues) to take up volume around the ankles which was my issue with the stock tongue style liner
I was able to get the MV tour wrap
liner into the boot and my foot into the liner before molding but it hurt
Amazingly, cooking the liner in the oven at the shop resulted in a great, pressure free fit
Got on the plane the next day and skinned a 3000’ day with better feeling downhill performance and no fit issues!
Arriving before my trip to Italy
I went to
My local
Bootfitter from whom I bought ridge pros
Looking at my feet and the liners (I also had LV and MV Tour Tongues in tow.
Bootfitter wisely suggested that we try the MV Tour Wrap to get biggest bang for buck (I wasn’t feeling it with the Tour tongues) to take up volume around the ankles which was my issue with the stock tongue style liner
I was able to get the MV tour wrap
liner into the boot and my foot into the liner before molding but it hurt
Amazingly, cooking the liner in the oven at the shop resulted in a great, pressure free fit
Got on the plane the next day and skinned a 3000’ day with better feeling downhill performance and no fit issues!
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1/28/2025
Hi, I have previously used intuition Pro Tour MV 9/27 for my Salomon Slab MTN boots mondo 26.5. Would the tour wrap MV 27 be the right replacement? Wanted to switch to the wrap rather than the tongue models.
1/30/2025
Hi Raj,
That would be the most equivalent fit in the wrap! Be aware that the wrap liner will take up more space in the cuff compared to the tongue liner of the same thickness, so if you already have a tight fit in the cuff, it may not work very well. But if you're looking to take up more space in the cuff, the wraps are a great option!
That would be the most equivalent fit in the wrap! Be aware that the wrap liner will take up more space in the cuff compared to the tongue liner of the same thickness, so if you already have a tight fit in the cuff, it may not work very well. But if you're looking to take up more space in the cuff, the wraps are a great option!
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1/15/2025
I am looking to replace the stock liners in my Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD 130s; stock with custom footbed has been just fine, but now the liners are wearing out. I have low volume feet with skinny ankles and calves. Haven't used wrap liners in the past, but wondering it it's worth a try - definitely have the room in the cuff/calf area to accommodate. Will these work in this boot? Or have other suggestions?
1/15/2025
Hi Anna,
This could be a great option if you find yourself wanting to take up more space in the cuff than the stock liner! They are a good solution for people who need more padding around their lower leg and find that they are often over-buckling the cuff to get it tight enough for them. Wraps can also help with the fit around the ankle for some folks, by changing up where the seams/pressure points are compared to a tongue liner.
A wrap liner will work in this boot! The Low Volume/9mm will be slightly thicker than the stock liner in the cuff area, and a little thinner around the forefoot. The MV/12mm will be similar or slightly thicker than stock in the lower shell and quite a bit thicker in the cuff!
This could be a great option if you find yourself wanting to take up more space in the cuff than the stock liner! They are a good solution for people who need more padding around their lower leg and find that they are often over-buckling the cuff to get it tight enough for them. Wraps can also help with the fit around the ankle for some folks, by changing up where the seams/pressure points are compared to a tongue liner.
A wrap liner will work in this boot! The Low Volume/9mm will be slightly thicker than the stock liner in the cuff area, and a little thinner around the forefoot. The MV/12mm will be similar or slightly thicker than stock in the lower shell and quite a bit thicker in the cuff!
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1/3/2025
I have the Dynafit ridge boots and love them. However, despite getting the medial malleolus punched, I still have some discomfort when touring. I already have custom footbeds and a varus wedge. I noticed the stock tongue liners have a large seam over the med mal area and lack of padding. Do you think adding the intuition wrap liners would help? The fit is generally great except for that. I have regular large size calfs and don’t need to pull up any space. Curious whether the medium or low volume would be better. Thanks for your help.
1/3/2025
Hi Clark,
That might work if you have room for a bit more volume in the cuff - I would definitely go with the low volume, not the medium volume.
That might work if you have room for a bit more volume in the cuff - I would definitely go with the low volume, not the medium volume.
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12/28/2024
I have a scarpa f1 in 27 that I wish had a little bit more room in the toes. I have skinny ankles though and I really like wrap liners in my resort boots. Would a 9mm 27 be a good option for what I need
12/28/2024
Hi Dylan,
If you haven't molded your liners, that would be the first step to getting more room in the toes! Scarpa liners are very heat-moldable and you can compress the toe area to create more room. A good custom or semi-custom footbed is also a good idea as it will help pull the toes back from the front by supporting the arch. If you have a good footbed and have done a liner mold, and still need more toe room, then you are likely going to need shell work, rather than a new liner.
That said, a 9mm Tour Wrap would work in the F1 if you are looking to take up some space in the cuff compared to the stock liner. All of the usual benefits of a wrap liner apply! The downside is that it will add some friction to the walk mode compared to a tongue liner, which is a factor in a lighter weight boot like the F1.
If you haven't molded your liners, that would be the first step to getting more room in the toes! Scarpa liners are very heat-moldable and you can compress the toe area to create more room. A good custom or semi-custom footbed is also a good idea as it will help pull the toes back from the front by supporting the arch. If you have a good footbed and have done a liner mold, and still need more toe room, then you are likely going to need shell work, rather than a new liner.
That said, a 9mm Tour Wrap would work in the F1 if you are looking to take up some space in the cuff compared to the stock liner. All of the usual benefits of a wrap liner apply! The downside is that it will add some friction to the walk mode compared to a tongue liner, which is a factor in a lighter weight boot like the F1.
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12/16/2024
Would you recommend these as a replacement for the stock liners in the Backland Pro UL (UL Gold)? I'm hesistant to add much volume, is low volume the right choice?
12/17/2024
Hi Collin,
I would not recommend using a Tour Wrap in those boots - I think your concern about volume is right on the money. These will be too big in the cuff and aren't really appropriate. I would use a Palau Tour Lite MV, or at most a 9mm Intuition Tour Tongue (if you are looking to take up more space than stock).
I would not recommend using a Tour Wrap in those boots - I think your concern about volume is right on the money. These will be too big in the cuff and aren't really appropriate. I would use a Palau Tour Lite MV, or at most a 9mm Intuition Tour Tongue (if you are looking to take up more space than stock).
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These new Tour Wraps are great. No ROM loss and super solid build. I should probably replace them after one heavy season but they're still plenty good by most standards and have certainly held up better than any previous liner. I feel infinitely more connected to my skis since finding wrap liners; easily accommodates muscle in the calves and a little bit of bow to lower tibfib.
I used a 12mm 27 in a Roxa R3 130 27.5 and now in a Scarpa 4-Quattro Pro 26.5/27. I measure just shy of a 27 and often pack out a comfort 27.5 resort boot liner before the end of a season so will downcycle the old resort 50/50 liner to my touring boots. That said, a fresh 12mm will be a super tight fit in the Quattro - probably ideal unless you are a ways <1 finger of space in your shell - it's just getting the 12mm liner in the shell, especially with a properly aligned footbed, is a ride on the strugglebus. I might try a 26 12mm in my 26.5/27 scarpas next time.
I used a 12mm 27 in a Roxa R3 130 27.5 and now in a Scarpa 4-Quattro Pro 26.5/27. I measure just shy of a 27 and often pack out a comfort 27.5 resort boot liner before the end of a season so will downcycle the old resort 50/50 liner to my touring boots. That said, a fresh 12mm will be a super tight fit in the Quattro - probably ideal unless you are a ways <1 finger of space in your shell - it's just getting the 12mm liner in the shell, especially with a properly aligned footbed, is a ride on the strugglebus. I might try a 26 12mm in my 26.5/27 scarpas next time.
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12/9/2024
I have a pair of Lange XT3’s from a few years back that need new/stiffer liners. Have had success with Intuition wraps in tele boots and was thinking these might work in these as well. Have long thin shins/ankles and a high instep. Boot shell is 29.5. What size liner and volume would you recommend? I like the idea of a thicker cuff but don’t know if the 12mm would work with the Lange last. Length rec 30?
Thanks
Thanks
12/9/2024
Hi Scott,
I would go with a 12mm if you have room in the cuff, in a 28.
I would go with a 12mm if you have room in the cuff, in a 28.
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12/2/2024
Recently got some LS Vegas for a great price used. The fit is nice but a little roomy in the forefoot (not too long) and when tightened down enough to get the calf right I get some pressure/pain on my interior ankle bone/joint. Is a new liner w mold a reasonable fix? If so would you recommend this liner or something else?
12/3/2024
Hey Matt, the Tour Wrap mid volume could be a good option. As long as you ideally mold them, and with the addition to a semi custom/ custom foot bed that should put you at a good baseline. From there if you are still pressure a basic ankle bone stretch on the boots should do the trick for the pressure. If you need more room taken up adding some boot shims can work as well.
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9/12/2024
I have Roxa R3 120s and would love to put wraps in them. They’re a 27.5, what would you suggest?
9/13/2024
Hi Charlie,
I think the size 27, Medium Volume tour wrap would be the right call. This will take up more volume in the shin/calf area than a stock liner, which is most likely what you're going for with a wrap-style liner. Most people get these to fill up some more space than stock. We always recommend a heat mold with new Intuitions in orderto get the most custom fit and a little more breathing room around the toes.
I think the size 27, Medium Volume tour wrap would be the right call. This will take up more volume in the shin/calf area than a stock liner, which is most likely what you're going for with a wrap-style liner. Most people get these to fill up some more space than stock. We always recommend a heat mold with new Intuitions in orderto get the most custom fit and a little more breathing room around the toes.
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2/27/2024
Would a 27/12mm be the right size for a 26.5 Scarpa Quattro boot that needs some snugging up in the calf and ankle?
Also, are there noticeable differences between the old vs new version of this liner?
Also, are there noticeable differences between the old vs new version of this liner?
2/27/2024
Hi Chuck! For your boot and fit goals, I'd suggest considering the 9mm. The 12mm would likely be too much liner for the upper cuff of your boot. The 9mm would fit better, while still snugging up your calf and ankle. Thanks!
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2/22/2024
Just ordered the Phantom Slipper HD for hardboot splitting. Size 28. I have a skinnier ankle/calf. Do you suggest the Tour Wrap low volume? Go with size 28? Any other liner I should look into for comparison?
Thanks!
Thanks!
2/22/2024
Hi Christopher! The low volume Tour Wrap could work for your application, but is likely not the best combination as this wrap liner is intended for beefier boots. Something like the Palau Power LT would be better suited for your boot while still taking up volume in the ankle/calf. Send us an email at help@skimo.co if you'd like to chat more. Thanks!
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2/14/2024
Which thickness would you recommend for a Fischer Transalp Pro with a fairly tight shell fit?
Any reason to not get these over the Tour Pros?
Any reason to not get these over the Tour Pros?
2/15/2024
Hi Jack,
You will definitely want the low volume 9mm thickness if you want to go with a Wrap and you have a tight fit in the shell.
The reason to go for the wrap over the Pro Tour/Tour Tongue is to add padding and material around the calf/shin for folks with skinny lower legs. It will also be a stiffer than the tongue-style liner. If you do not need this extra support/cushion, then you may want to go for the tongue-style liner, because it will walk better.
You will definitely want the low volume 9mm thickness if you want to go with a Wrap and you have a tight fit in the shell.
The reason to go for the wrap over the Pro Tour/Tour Tongue is to add padding and material around the calf/shin for folks with skinny lower legs. It will also be a stiffer than the tongue-style liner. If you do not need this extra support/cushion, then you may want to go for the tongue-style liner, because it will walk better.
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2/11/2024
Would these fit a scarpa freedom sl?
thanks
thanks
2/12/2024
Luciano,
Yes, the Intuition Wrap or Tongue liners are the Best replacement liners for the Freedom boots.
Yes, the Intuition Wrap or Tongue liners are the Best replacement liners for the Freedom boots.
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