Intuition Tour Wrap Liners
Do you enjoy bombing downhill at 60 MPH with your shins lovingly cradled in a roll of confidence-inspiring foam? Do you find yourself bottoming out the flex on your current boots, or have low-volume calves and bony shins in desperate need of padding? If you answered "yes" to any of these questions, Intuition is at your service with the Tour Wrap, a wrap-style liner designed specifically for big days in the mountains.
The Tour Wrap liner provides plenty of stiffness and cushion while a rear flex panel allows for an ample range of motion while touring. An optional Velcro and lace closure system snugs the liner up as tight as you want. The removable 4mm foam shim creates lots of fit options: remove them to increase volume, replace them with a custom orthotic, or layer another footbed on top to decrease volume. Constructed with Dual Density foam, they can be worn directly out of the box or molded for a precise fit. Compared to the previous iteration, this latest model features an updated 4mm sole (instead of 7mm) and a revised J-Bar in the ankle for support and comfort. Whether adding cushion to protect your shins or just prefer a wrap-style liner, the Tour Wrap is for you.
- Wrap style is a good option for those needing to take up volume in the calves or to protect their shins.
- Rear flex panel allows for a good range of motion, helping you move through the mountains efficiently.
- Removable 4mm foam insole creates many fit options.
- Heat moldable but can be worn out of the box.
- Optional Velcro and lace closure system.
- Webbing tabs give you something to hold and pull while getting in and out of the liner.
- Anti-microbial treatment helps to keep your liners smelling fresh.
- 4mm thick "J Bar" pads provide support for the ankle.
- Low Volume is 9mm while the medium volume is 12mm.
Sizing guide: For boots that break on the whole size, round down. For example, a 27/27.5 boot should use a size 27 liner. For boots that break on the half size, such as SCARPA, round up. For example, a 26.5/27 boot should use a size 27 liner.
- 9mm liners are the best choice for most lighter-weight touring boots, such as the Scarpa F1, Dynafit Ridge, etc. 9mm Intuition Tour Wrap liners are thicker than the stock liners in most lightweight boots.
- 12mm liners are appropriate for most freeride touring boots, such as the Tecnica Zero G Pro Tour, Scarpa Maestrale, etc
In general, wrap liners fill up significantly more space in the boot's upper cuff than a typical tongue-style touring liner. If you would like help choosing the right liner for your boots, please reach out to us at help@skimo.co, or give us a call!
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We have seen people do both 9mm and 12mm, depending on their boot preferences and overall fit. It sounds like you are in the right-sized boot. I would recommend starting with the 9mm for the wrap, as it will take up a little more space in the boot's cuff than the stock liner to accommodate a skinny calf. As far as the lack of pressure on the top of the foot, have you tried a footbed or shim under your foot to bring you closer to the top of the boot? Feel free to email help@skimo.co if you have any more questions about boot fitting and liners.
These liners are a lot more then a stock Backland boot. Will not fit the cuff very well.
The Palau All Track will be a thicker liner that could work.
Pros:
- Very warm (used in -20F overnight ski trips)
- add stiffness to boot
- heat mold well
- lightweight
- Don't retain water like other materials (so helpful with multiday tours)
Cons:
- very warm
- poor to moderate range of motion (only really an issue if you're doing lots of flat skinning)
- fabric on the inside wore out after about 120 uses.
- maybe too stiff for some skiers
Bottomline: great for steep skiing in cold temps and uphill travel, not the best option for long flat tours.
I'm looking for a replacement liners in my K2 Dispatch 28.5, currently aiming for Tour Wraps 28 MV. Please advise :)
These will be thicker then the stock liner, so they may not fit easily.
I've tested the Tecnica boot, and I have to tighten the buckles to max on the upper two, and even then I feel I have som wiggle room in front of my leg.
In the Salomon I have no issues with tightening the boot, but it's still a bit lose and feel my leg moving under skiing.
Trying to decide wether to my an Intuition tongue or Wrap, the Tecnicas or both.
Wrap liners can certainly help to tighten up the cuff of a boot! For folks with skinny calves and shins, they are great solutions. A Tour Wrap would be an appropriate liner in either of those two boots.
If you haven't, I would also recommend adjusting the buckle ladders to their smallest setting, which can help you get more tension on the cuff.
If you'd like to dive deeper into the fit of these two boots, feel free to email us at help@skimo.co, or fill out our online boot fitter!
Indeed, based on your 2-finger shell fit, I would say the 12mm is the correct thickness! A wrap liner will work well in the Radical Pro as long as you have enough room in the cuff to accommodate it. The only potential issue would be if you have larger calves and can't afford to add material to the cuff of the boot, as the wrap liners will be thicker in that area. Otherwise, wrap liners do a great job of providing comfort, compression, and good skiing performance!
Would these be a good choice? If so, should I just get the 27.5?
I'm looking to replace the liners in my Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD 115 in 27/27.5. https://skimo.co/atomic-hawx-ultra-xtd-women
Currently having blister issues on my heel from it moving around inside the liner, and was hoping this liner would help resolve the issue. I was planning to get the 27 in medium volume.
1) Would these liners be a good fit for that boot?
2) Is there any significant difference between this year's and last year's version that would affect this?
Thanks in advance for the help!
These would be a good option. Worth noting that they'll take up a good bit more room in the cuff than the stock liner. They're a bit denser than the stock liner, so might help with your heels being too loose. The Patriot Footbeds Liner Sleeves might be worth a look if the heel is the only area that needs improvement, those will probably make more of a difference than a new liner.
The current/new model has more substantial ankle padding compared to the old one. The new one also has a bit of rubber traction on the sole, and the stock insole/shim is a little bit different. So pretty similar overall, but might be worth going for the new model for the ankle padding.
Having trouble with excess volume around ankle and just above which is really affecting the skiing performance of the boot
I ordered a 26.0 Med vol tour wrap liner, but am concerned this might be too thick
I have a trip coming up and am short on time, so wondering if I should pre-emptively order a 26.0 low volume tour wrap liner just in case.
Thanks!
The MV Tour Wrap is pretty thick - thicker than most would want in the Ridge, I think. It might not be a bad idea to order the LV if you are concerned about it! The MV will certainly be thicker in the specific area that you need more material, which is potentially good, but it will also be quite a lot thicker in the cuff than the stock liner or the LV (the LV would be a bit thicker than the stock liner).
I think
I’ll try 9 and 12 mm tour tongue liners as an alternate?
The 9mm Tour Tongue would probably work well! If you get the 12mm and try that and it doesn't fit at all, go with a 9mm Tour Tongue. The 12mm Tour Tongue is still quite a bit thicker than the stock liner. In our opinion, the 9mm suits the Ridge quite well.
Arriving before my trip to Italy
I went to
My local
Bootfitter from whom I bought ridge pros
Looking at my feet and the liners (I also had LV and MV Tour Tongues in tow.
Bootfitter wisely suggested that we try the MV Tour Wrap to get biggest bang for buck (I wasn’t feeling it with the Tour tongues) to take up volume around the ankles which was my issue with the stock tongue style liner
I was able to get the MV tour wrap
liner into the boot and my foot into the liner before molding but it hurt
Amazingly, cooking the liner in the oven at the shop resulted in a great, pressure free fit
Got on the plane the next day and skinned a 3000’ day with better feeling downhill performance and no fit issues!
That would be the most equivalent fit in the wrap! Be aware that the wrap liner will take up more space in the cuff compared to the tongue liner of the same thickness, so if you already have a tight fit in the cuff, it may not work very well. But if you're looking to take up more space in the cuff, the wraps are a great option!
This could be a great option if you find yourself wanting to take up more space in the cuff than the stock liner! They are a good solution for people who need more padding around their lower leg and find that they are often over-buckling the cuff to get it tight enough for them. Wraps can also help with the fit around the ankle for some folks, by changing up where the seams/pressure points are compared to a tongue liner.
A wrap liner will work in this boot! The Low Volume/9mm will be slightly thicker than the stock liner in the cuff area, and a little thinner around the forefoot. The MV/12mm will be similar or slightly thicker than stock in the lower shell and quite a bit thicker in the cuff!
That might work if you have room for a bit more volume in the cuff - I would definitely go with the low volume, not the medium volume.
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