Intuition Tour Tongue Liners
Being synonymous with comfort and performance, Intuition has rightfully been atop the leaderboard when it comes to high-quality after-market liners. Taking over from the venerable Pro Tour liner, the Tour Tongue has received subtle design updates that improve upon this already successful formula. As with all Intuition liners, the Tour Tongue is built using a highly customizable foam that when heated, comfortably accommodates many different foot shapes. While the main body of the Tour Tongue uses a moderately compliant dual-density foam, the toebox utilizes a low dual-density foam that aims to provide more comfort during a big day out. Purposefully designed with modern touring boots in mind, the Tour Tongue features a rear flex zone that allows you to capitalize on the impressive range of motion definitive of modern touring boots, allowing you to move quickly and efficiently. Compared to the Pro Tour, the Tour Tongue features a thinner sole thickness, a revised J-bar that allows for better heel hold and ankle support, and a sewn-in tongue for durability. Finally, the Tour Tongue is offered in three thicknesses, allowing you to select the best option for the fit of your boots.
Whether you want to add warmth, performance, or comfort to your existing touring boot, the Tour Tongue is a worthwhile upgrade.
- Fully heat-moldable for a comfortable and individualized fit.
- Low-density foam is strategically used in the toe box, helping provide comfort on big days out.
- Internal J-bar helps to lock down the heel and provide support for bony ankles.
- Rear flex zone allows you to enjoy the excellent range of motion found on modern touring boots.
- Antimicrobial treatment (helps) fight off odor-causing bacteria.
- Included 4mm high-density foam shim allows you to modify liner volume.
- 9mm is low-volume, 12mm is medium volume, and 15mm is high-volume.
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4/15/2024
I wear a size 7.5 women's shoe but am rocking a 23.5 Tecnica Zero G Tour women's boots because my foot is so damn narrow. My toes are always a bit crunched. After the original Tecnica Zero G liners were packed out (in the heel and across the width of my foot), I replaced them with a size 23 Intuition Pro Tour liners (2022-2023 model w/laces). Those are now packed out, and I am looking to replace them. Would you recommend going with size 23 Intuition tour tongue liners? I assume a 24 would not fit into my 23.5 boot (true?), and I am hoping to retain the narrowness across my foot (although I would love more length in my toes!). Any advice is appreciated. Thank you from Seattle! Love your store.
4/15/2024
Hi Emily,
You probably could put a 24 liner in there, but I would lean towards the 23. When you go to a bigger liner in a smaller boot it tightens things up, which can be counterintuitive, but essentially what you're doing is just shoving more material into the boot which will take up more space.
My recommendation if your toes are crunched would be to do an aggressive heat mold of the Intuitions, with the right toe cap (or maybe even two toe caps), to create as much toe space as you can. If that isn't enough, a good boot fitter could add a little bit of room length-wise at the big toe or wherever your pressure point is. The Tecnica Pro Tour/Tour Scout punches pretty easily.
You probably could put a 24 liner in there, but I would lean towards the 23. When you go to a bigger liner in a smaller boot it tightens things up, which can be counterintuitive, but essentially what you're doing is just shoving more material into the boot which will take up more space.
My recommendation if your toes are crunched would be to do an aggressive heat mold of the Intuitions, with the right toe cap (or maybe even two toe caps), to create as much toe space as you can. If that isn't enough, a good boot fitter could add a little bit of room length-wise at the big toe or wherever your pressure point is. The Tecnica Pro Tour/Tour Scout punches pretty easily.
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4/9/2024
What size would I get for Scarpa Maestrale XT 28.0 311mm? what volume? Thanks!
4/10/2024
Hi Josh,
I answered your question on the Pro Tour product page - all the same advice would apply here, as they are essentially the same liner.
I answered your question on the Pro Tour product page - all the same advice would apply here, as they are essentially the same liner.
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4/5/2024
How does the Tour Tongue LV liner compare to the stock liner that comes with the men's Tecnica Zero G Peak boot? Just a little thicker or a lot, especially interested in the cuff area.
Thanks!
Thanks!
4/5/2024
Hi Anna, the tongue in the LV Tour Tongue is a bit thicker than the Zero G Peak liner, but not by too much. The rest of the cuff of the LV Tour Tongue is bulkier and stiffer, though.
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3/19/2024
I am replacing my stock Scarpa Maestrale RS 2.0 liner, and contemplating whether to get 12mm or 15mm. My stock liner worked okay when new, but always felt a bit loose. Now that it compacted a lot 8 years in, it feels very loose. Any advice?
3/19/2024
Hi Matt, the 12mm / Medium Volume is a tad thicker than stock. The 15mm / High Volume are substantially thicker, you'll likely need to mold the 15mm down a fair bit to get them to fit well into your shell.
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3/18/2024
Is the 12mm too much for my Salomon Mtn Summit? I have a wide forefoot and thin ankles and calves. With the stock liner, I’m getting some heel lift and I’m using all available space on the main buckle (cannot pull it any tighter). Would the 9mm also increase volume around the calf and shin vs the stock liner? I’ve got a 2 finger shell fit. Should I consider a 9mm tour wrap (or even a 12)?
Thanks for your time.
Thanks for your time.
3/18/2024
Hi Adam,
I have test fit a 12mm Tour Tongue in that boot, it is doable although it will tighten things up substantially and fill a lot more space. The 9mm Tour Tongue is a bit thicker than the stock liner, it does tighten up the ankle and cuff a little. It isn't as drastic, of course.
You could consider the 9mm Tour Wrap - I think the 12 would be too big. But if you have a snug fit in the forefoot, but a loose fit in the calf area, that is exactly what the wrap liners are good for - they have more padding in the shin compared to a tongue liner and will fill up calf and ankle space. The 9mm Wrap will also give you more breathing room in the forefoot, compared to the 12mm Tongue.
I have test fit a 12mm Tour Tongue in that boot, it is doable although it will tighten things up substantially and fill a lot more space. The 9mm Tour Tongue is a bit thicker than the stock liner, it does tighten up the ankle and cuff a little. It isn't as drastic, of course.
You could consider the 9mm Tour Wrap - I think the 12 would be too big. But if you have a snug fit in the forefoot, but a loose fit in the calf area, that is exactly what the wrap liners are good for - they have more padding in the shin compared to a tongue liner and will fill up calf and ankle space. The 9mm Wrap will also give you more breathing room in the forefoot, compared to the 12mm Tongue.
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3/13/2024
Is this for one liner or is it sold as a pair?
3/13/2024
Hi Jerry, all liners are sold in pairs of left & right.
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3/11/2024
I purchased a pair of 28.5 Dynafit Hoji Free 130 last year after using the first gen Hoji 28.5 for 5 years, my absolute favorite touring boot. So far, I have been disappointed with the new Sidas liners that come with the Free 130s as I feel that they don't have the same fit and responsiveness of the older Hoji liners. I have heat molded them, but find that I have too much wiggle in the heel pocket. I am interested in Intuition Tour Tongue liners based on past experience with Intuition, but am unsure what size or thickness of replacement liners to purchase. I have two fingers for shell fit. I am also curious how these liners compare to the Intuition Pro Tour liners. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
3/13/2024
Hi Mike,
The Tour Tongue is the replacement for the Pro Tour in Intuition's line. There are a few minor differences including a thinner sole and a sewn-in tongue. However, for the most part they are pretty equivalent liners. Both are great Intuition foam that takes a heat mold very well.
Between the two thicknesses, with a two-finger fit I think you will be happier with the 12mm thickness especially if the goal is to tighten things up around the heel. You will need to heat mold it to get a comfortable fit, as it will likely feel tight initially. But they will mold out quite well, as I'm sure you've experienced with Intuitions in the past.
For size, you'll want a 28 liner for your 28/28.5 shell.
The Tour Tongue is the replacement for the Pro Tour in Intuition's line. There are a few minor differences including a thinner sole and a sewn-in tongue. However, for the most part they are pretty equivalent liners. Both are great Intuition foam that takes a heat mold very well.
Between the two thicknesses, with a two-finger fit I think you will be happier with the 12mm thickness especially if the goal is to tighten things up around the heel. You will need to heat mold it to get a comfortable fit, as it will likely feel tight initially. But they will mold out quite well, as I'm sure you've experienced with Intuitions in the past.
For size, you'll want a 28 liner for your 28/28.5 shell.
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2/23/2024
I have K2 Mindbenders 130 (2021) in a 25.5 and the stock liners are pretty packed out after about 100 days on them. I do more downhill resort skiing then touring, but am starting to pick up on my backcountry touring and/or resort uphill days (~10-12 days a season). Would you recommend these Intuition Tour Tongue Liners at size 25 w/ 9mm or 12mm? Or a different replacement liner?
Thanks!
Thanks!
2/23/2024
Caitlin, The Intuitions would be a good replacement liner for those boots. Since they packed and are too roomy now, the 12mm would likely be the one to go with.
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2/22/2024
Hi, I want to replace the liner for my Hawx Prime 110 27/27.5. Would a 9 or 12mm thickness work best for this boot?
2/23/2024
Hi Jim, It depends on your fit in the Prime boots when new. If you have wider feet and they were really tight when new, go with the 9mm.
If they are more then a bit loose on you now, go with the 12mm.
If they are more then a bit loose on you now, go with the 12mm.
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2/19/2024
I ski and tour in Salomon S/LAB MTN (I think 2017 model?) in size 29.5.
I’ve liked the stock liner just fine, but they are ready to be replaced.
I don’t have much room in the 29.5, maybe a finger to a finger and a half in the shell.
Thoughts on replacement liner? I was looking at the Pro Tour…seems very similar to the stock liner(?). Thanks!
I’ve liked the stock liner just fine, but they are ready to be replaced.
I don’t have much room in the 29.5, maybe a finger to a finger and a half in the shell.
Thoughts on replacement liner? I was looking at the Pro Tour…seems very similar to the stock liner(?). Thanks!
2/19/2024
Hi Chris! With both your boot and fit in mind, the 9mm (low volume) would likely be best. I would anticipate having to do a heat mold. After that, you should find the 9mm to be a great replacement. Thanks!
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2/10/2024
What volume would work best with a Atomic Hawx 115 ultra Ltd women's boot? Thanks a bunch!
2/10/2024
Shane,
A 12mm would be a good option!
A 12mm would be a good option!
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1/25/2024
I have a pair of 25.5 hoji free 120s and want to replace the liners with the tour tongue. While I have 2-3 fingers behind my heal when doing a shell fit, however I have a high instep and there’s not much room around the foot. The boot used to fit great but now I have to crank the high buckle and keep the foot buckles loose because of my high instep (and my arch still cramps up). I am thinking that the 9mm/25 liner would be the right choice…what do you think?
1/25/2024
Andy, yes, you got a tricky situation there.
With over a two finger fit, you should use the Med/12mm liner.
But have a very tall instep and looking for less thickness. One good thing is this new version has a thinner sole to accommodate your instep. I believe you are saying they were snug around the foot too, if so, then the 9mm may be the better chocie.
With over a two finger fit, you should use the Med/12mm liner.
But have a very tall instep and looking for less thickness. One good thing is this new version has a thinner sole to accommodate your instep. I believe you are saying they were snug around the foot too, if so, then the 9mm may be the better chocie.
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1/24/2024
I have pair of Tecnica zero g guide 99mm 270-275 / 315mm
Which liners should I order and what size?
Warmly
Which liners should I order and what size?
Warmly
1/24/2024
Hi Nico,
I would go with these Intuition Tour Tongues in the 12mm thickness, same size as your boot (27). You will need to heat mold them for the best fit/to create room at the toe box, but these are one of the best matches for the Tecnica. If you have a very tight fit and want a thin liner, you could go with the 9mm, but I think most folks will be happier with the 12mm.
I would go with these Intuition Tour Tongues in the 12mm thickness, same size as your boot (27). You will need to heat mold them for the best fit/to create room at the toe box, but these are one of the best matches for the Tecnica. If you have a very tight fit and want a thin liner, you could go with the 9mm, but I think most folks will be happier with the 12mm.
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1/21/2024
I have La Sportiva, Women's, Vanguard, 2023, size 26 boots. With the stock liners I have to put a 4mm flat medium soft footbed in the shell and tighten the instep and bottom cuff buckle to the max for the downhill. I have a 26.5, low volume, high arch, slightly narrow foot and use a custom hard footbed in the liner that is approximately 4mm thick at the forefoot and 5mm at the heel area. I would like to not have to crank the buckles to the max and have more warmth and more secure fit (especially in the heel) all around. I am thinking the Tour Tongue 15mm in 26mm would be a good solution. However I have a (unusable cuff damaged) ProTour Med 27mm molded for another boot and it fits in the my Vanguards.
Do you think the Tour Tongue 15mm is the right choice? What size, 26 or 27mm?
Do you think the Tour Tongue 15mm is the right choice? What size, 26 or 27mm?
1/21/2024
Hi Jon,
The 15mm Tour Tongue is pretty thick! If you like how the volume of the MV Pro Tour feels in that boot (cuff damage aside), I would go with a 12mm Tour Tongue. If you feel like you need more, then yes, the 15mm will take up the most space. My only concern is the cuff area. If you have a tight fit in the cuff already with the stock liner, 15mm may be too much foam to buckle the cuff effectively. If you have a looser fit in this area too, I'd feel fine about the 15mm.
We generally recommend going with the same size liner as your boot, so in your case, 26. However, you frequently can squeeze the next size up in there. In that case, you will be getting potentially a taller cuff, and a tighter fit in general (more liner relative to the same shell).
You could also consider a shim under your liner if the liner upgrade doesn't quite tighten up the volume enough for you.
The 15mm Tour Tongue is pretty thick! If you like how the volume of the MV Pro Tour feels in that boot (cuff damage aside), I would go with a 12mm Tour Tongue. If you feel like you need more, then yes, the 15mm will take up the most space. My only concern is the cuff area. If you have a tight fit in the cuff already with the stock liner, 15mm may be too much foam to buckle the cuff effectively. If you have a looser fit in this area too, I'd feel fine about the 15mm.
We generally recommend going with the same size liner as your boot, so in your case, 26. However, you frequently can squeeze the next size up in there. In that case, you will be getting potentially a taller cuff, and a tighter fit in general (more liner relative to the same shell).
You could also consider a shim under your liner if the liner upgrade doesn't quite tighten up the volume enough for you.
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1/14/2024
Hi,
I'm thinking about swapping out old stock liners on a size 25.5 TLT7. Do you think the LVs will fit? Will they be any warmer? And is it a significant mobility loss compared to stock liners? Thanks!
I'm thinking about swapping out old stock liners on a size 25.5 TLT7. Do you think the LVs will fit? Will they be any warmer? And is it a significant mobility loss compared to stock liners? Thanks!
1/15/2024
Hi Darin,
I think the 9mm Tour Tongues would be a great option for you. They will likely be a bit warmer than stock, and more padded. You will need to heat mold them for the best fit. In terms of mobility, they might feel a bit more restrictive than stock, but it shouldn't be too bad. I would expect them to loosen up a little bit as well with use.
I think the 9mm Tour Tongues would be a great option for you. They will likely be a bit warmer than stock, and more padded. You will need to heat mold them for the best fit. In terms of mobility, they might feel a bit more restrictive than stock, but it shouldn't be too bad. I would expect them to loosen up a little bit as well with use.
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1/2/2024
I'm looking to replace the stock Intuition liners that came with my '19/20 Maestrale XT's ... (they well used/compacted/smelly)... 29.0 sized.
They fit fine after a few tours (never needed a heat mold).
For the new liners, expecting a 70/30 backcountry to resort use... but weight is no issue as I have separate 'lite' touring boot combo.
Will these work/ are these the best replacement option?
They fit fine after a few tours (never needed a heat mold).
For the new liners, expecting a 70/30 backcountry to resort use... but weight is no issue as I have separate 'lite' touring boot combo.
Will these work/ are these the best replacement option?
1/2/2024
Hi Zach! These would be a great replacement liner for your boot. The 12mm would work well after a heat mold. Thanks!
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1/1/2024
I have a pair of Garmont Venus telemark boots in size 23/24.5. The old liners are toast. What is the best replacement liner?
1/1/2024
Hi Liz! The 12mm Intuition Tour Tongue Liners would likely be a great replacement. It is important to note that these liners are taller than your particular boots. With that, expect some of the liner to stick out of the top of the boot. Thanks!
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12/29/2023
I wear a 26.5 Dalbello Lupo. Should I round up for these liners to a 27, or round down? Intuition's website says to round down for the tour wrap and round up for the pro tour, but doesn't mention the tour tongue. Thanks!
12/29/2023
Hi Adam! Intuition updated the Pro Tours to the Tour Tongues for the 23/24 season. Regardless, for new liner selection it is best to stay inline with your shell size. With a 26/26.5 shell in mind, I would suggest the 26 sized liner. Intuitions benefit from a very moldable foam construction allowing you to correct any felt shortness if need be. Thanks!
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12/27/2023
Hello! I have a pair of Lange XT3 130 in size 26.5. I have had them for one year and the don't fit has tight as I would like. There is too much room particularly in the instep and front of my ankle, which allows for my foot to shift forward and up into the boot. The actual length of the boot is correct. I have added a 4mm sole and some padding on back of the liner to try to correct this issue. It is better, but not where I want it to be. I was thinking of ordering the 26 Tour Tonge in 15mm to take up the extra volume.
Do this seem like a good approach?
Thanks!
Do this seem like a good approach?
Thanks!
12/27/2023
Hi Anthony,
Yes, but depending on how narrow your foot is, I might err on the side of caution and try the 12mm; most stock liners don't run as high as 12mm, and sit around 8mm, so if you need 'a bit' more volume, 12mm might do it.
If you think you really need that extra volume and will just wait for it to pack out or liner mold, then go for 15mm.
Yes, but depending on how narrow your foot is, I might err on the side of caution and try the 12mm; most stock liners don't run as high as 12mm, and sit around 8mm, so if you need 'a bit' more volume, 12mm might do it.
If you think you really need that extra volume and will just wait for it to pack out or liner mold, then go for 15mm.
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12/13/2023
Hi,
I have a pair of Technica Cochise 95w's. I was fitted for women's boots as they fit my ankles and instep better. I'd like to get a new boot, but don't want to spend that much at the moment. My two main issues are:
1) The liners have packed out and I have space over the instep
2) I want a stiffer boot. These are stiffer than most 95 flex boots I've tried, probably close to a 105 men's flex, but I'd like a boot with less give.
I ski about 60% touring, 40% resort. Would these liners be a good choice for my use?
I have a pair of Technica Cochise 95w's. I was fitted for women's boots as they fit my ankles and instep better. I'd like to get a new boot, but don't want to spend that much at the moment. My two main issues are:
1) The liners have packed out and I have space over the instep
2) I want a stiffer boot. These are stiffer than most 95 flex boots I've tried, probably close to a 105 men's flex, but I'd like a boot with less give.
I ski about 60% touring, 40% resort. Would these liners be a good choice for my use?
12/13/2023
Hi Quinton,
To help decreasing volume over the instep, if it won't ruin the fit at the heel and ankle, I would try thicker footbeds or a shim to lift you up a little bit in the shell, decreasing the volume above your foot. This is a cheaper and sometimes better fix than new liners. However, a thicker liner may help take up some of that space (although all liners pack out). If your liners are more than ~50-60 ski days old, and only recently got bad, then new liners are in order. If they packed out to be too loose within 10 days or so, new liners may not fare much better. To take up more space, go with the medium or high volume thickness in these (12mm or 15mm). I would only go 15mm if you also need to take up space in the cuff.
I don't think these would add a significant amount of stiffness over the stock Cochise liner. Maybe a little. But it won't change the flex of the boot dramatically. Ultimately, your problems will best be solved by shells that fit your foot better and are an appropriate flex. But hopefully with some footbeds/shims you can improve the fit of the current boots so that they are a more secure fit.
To help decreasing volume over the instep, if it won't ruin the fit at the heel and ankle, I would try thicker footbeds or a shim to lift you up a little bit in the shell, decreasing the volume above your foot. This is a cheaper and sometimes better fix than new liners. However, a thicker liner may help take up some of that space (although all liners pack out). If your liners are more than ~50-60 ski days old, and only recently got bad, then new liners are in order. If they packed out to be too loose within 10 days or so, new liners may not fare much better. To take up more space, go with the medium or high volume thickness in these (12mm or 15mm). I would only go 15mm if you also need to take up space in the cuff.
I don't think these would add a significant amount of stiffness over the stock Cochise liner. Maybe a little. But it won't change the flex of the boot dramatically. Ultimately, your problems will best be solved by shells that fit your foot better and are an appropriate flex. But hopefully with some footbeds/shims you can improve the fit of the current boots so that they are a more secure fit.
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