Hi, i want to take up more space with my radical pro ( i have a low vol feet, 97mm ish, medium arch, and slim shin). Chocing the boot simply for the hoji lock and its stiffness, so the boot fitter put quite some padding to the stock liner and in front of the ankle to fillup space for me. It works great, but is a pain to take out and put back the liner with tons of modification on.
Does this 15mm liner would do the similar job for me? Or what would you recommandation? New boot with better factory fit (eyeing on the ZGTP)? i have the radical at 26.5. If this liner work for me, which size should i pick.
Thanks
Intuition Tour Tongue Liners
Being synonymous with comfort and performance, Intuition has rightfully been atop the leaderboard when it comes to high-quality after-market liners. Taking over from the venerable Pro Tour liner, the Tour Tongue has received subtle design updates that improve upon this already successful formula. As with all Intuition liners, the Tour Tongue is built using a highly customizable foam that when heated, comfortably accommodates many different foot shapes. While the main body of the Tour Tongue uses a moderately compliant dual-density foam, the toebox utilizes a low dual-density foam that aims to provide more comfort during a big day out. Purposefully designed with modern touring boots in mind, the Tour Tongue features a rear flex zone that allows you to capitalize on the impressive range of motion definitive of modern touring boots, allowing you to move quickly and efficiently. Compared to the Pro Tour, the Tour Tongue features a thinner sole thickness, a revised J-bar that allows for better heel hold and ankle support, and a sewn-in tongue for durability. Finally, the Tour Tongue is offered in three thicknesses, allowing you to select the best option for the fit of your boots.
Whether you want to add warmth, performance, or comfort to your existing touring boot, the Tour Tongue is a worthwhile upgrade.
- Fully heat-moldable for a comfortable and individualized fit.
- Low-density foam is strategically used in the toe box, helping provide comfort on big days out.
- Internal J-bar helps to lock down the heel and provide support for bony ankles.
- Rear flex zone allows you to enjoy the excellent range of motion found on modern touring boots.
- Antimicrobial treatment (helps) fight off odor-causing bacteria.
- Included 4mm high-density foam shim allows you to modify liner volume.
- 9mm is low-volume, 12mm is medium volume, and 15mm is high-volume.
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2/21/2025
2/21/2025
Hi YH T,
In this case, it sounds like your boot just doesn't fit very well! The Radical Pro is quite wide and higher volume, and you have a narrow, low volume foot. Generally, we don't recommend trying to fix shell fit issues with aftermarket liners. It may help in the short term, but all foam liners will pack out with some use, and then you develop slop again. In our opinion, it would be much better to start with a shell that fits your foot. Based on what you've said about your foot shape, the Zero G Pro Tour would be a much better choice.
If you did decide to put an Intuition liner into the Radical Pro and you wanted to take up as much space as physically possible, the 15mm would be the right one, and you'd buy it in your same shell size (26).
In this case, it sounds like your boot just doesn't fit very well! The Radical Pro is quite wide and higher volume, and you have a narrow, low volume foot. Generally, we don't recommend trying to fix shell fit issues with aftermarket liners. It may help in the short term, but all foam liners will pack out with some use, and then you develop slop again. In our opinion, it would be much better to start with a shell that fits your foot. Based on what you've said about your foot shape, the Zero G Pro Tour would be a much better choice.
If you did decide to put an Intuition liner into the Radical Pro and you wanted to take up as much space as physically possible, the 15mm would be the right one, and you'd buy it in your same shell size (26).
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2/20/2025
I have the 24/25 season maestrale RS boots in a size 26.0. Will the size 25 12mm intuition liner work with this boot? I am hoping the 12mm liner will take up a little space and make the boot warmer. This version maestrale is much colder compared to previous versions.
2/21/2025
Hi Jason,
Generally you can size down Intuitions for Scarpa boots, because of the sizing - however, with the 24/25 Maestrale in particular, I would go with a 26 liner - that boot runs a full size bigger length-wise than Scarpas traditionally do, so I think the 25 liner would be a bit short.
I would also bear in mind that the stock Scarpa liner that comes with that version of the Maestrale is made by Intuition and is pretty close to the 12mm Tour Tongue. If your current liners are packed out, it would be an improvement, but I don't think it would add a ton of warmth - you'd be better off with heated socks or a boot glove for that purpose.
Generally you can size down Intuitions for Scarpa boots, because of the sizing - however, with the 24/25 Maestrale in particular, I would go with a 26 liner - that boot runs a full size bigger length-wise than Scarpas traditionally do, so I think the 25 liner would be a bit short.
I would also bear in mind that the stock Scarpa liner that comes with that version of the Maestrale is made by Intuition and is pretty close to the 12mm Tour Tongue. If your current liners are packed out, it would be an improvement, but I don't think it would add a ton of warmth - you'd be better off with heated socks or a boot glove for that purpose.
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2/16/2025
Looking to take up more room space than stock liners in Technica Zero G, 28.0. Overall boot fit is good, just little bit roomy. I got butterfly added around ankle on stock liners, this helped a lot but still bit loose.
What thickness liner would you recommend?
and same 28.0 size?
Thanks
What thickness liner would you recommend?
and same 28.0 size?
Thanks
2/17/2025
Hi Micah,
Yes, choose a 28 liner for a 28 Tecnica boot! I would recommend the 12mm thickness if you want to take up a bit more space than stock. You'll want to heat mold it for the best fit!
Yes, choose a 28 liner for a 28 Tecnica boot! I would recommend the 12mm thickness if you want to take up a bit more space than stock. You'll want to heat mold it for the best fit!
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2/13/2025
I am looking for liners for Scarpa S2X, “SX 8.9”, “CODE 10512 MONDO 275”.
2/13/2025
Hi, I'm not familiar with the S2X, can you add a photo of the boot?
2/13/2025
It is an old boot, purchased 2008. There was a similar question from Sandy 01/10/2025 but the recommendation in that case doesn’t have mondo 275. Also, I don’t know the thickness of the old liners. Would a thick liner be tighter on the foot, or tighter in the boot (shell)?
2/17/2025
Hi Ian,
We do not have the stock liner for that boot. I would recommend an Intuition as a replacement, but which one will depend on your fit in the boot. If you have a roomier shell fit, try the 12mm Tour Tongue in size 28 (a Scarpa 27.5 is closer to 28). If you have a tighter shell fit, and don't want to take up too much space, then go with the 9mm.
The answer to your second question is, it will make the boot feel tighter. A thicker liner takes up more space between your foot and the shell, so it reduces the available space that your foot has to move around, and increases compression.
We do not have the stock liner for that boot. I would recommend an Intuition as a replacement, but which one will depend on your fit in the boot. If you have a roomier shell fit, try the 12mm Tour Tongue in size 28 (a Scarpa 27.5 is closer to 28). If you have a tighter shell fit, and don't want to take up too much space, then go with the 9mm.
The answer to your second question is, it will make the boot feel tighter. A thicker liner takes up more space between your foot and the shell, so it reduces the available space that your foot has to move around, and increases compression.
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2/10/2025
good morning, with the Scarpa Maestrale RS model 2024 the heel moves a lot both uphill and downhill.
I also have pain in my ankles.
Could Tour Tongue Dual Density 12 mm be the solution?
Thank you
I also have pain in my ankles.
Could Tour Tongue Dual Density 12 mm be the solution?
Thank you
2/11/2025
Hi Francesco,
The Tour Tongue 12mm is fairly close to the stock liner in the Maestrale RS, which is also an Intuition product. It would not dramatically change the fit in the boot. If you have not molded your current liners, and you don't have a ton of days on them yet, I would try that first. Generally speaking, fixing shell fit problems with liners is somewhat of a band-aid solution and doesn't always work very well.
For a truly custom fit around the heel and ankle, a Zipfit GFT or injectable Backland Professional liner would offer more customization. Before you invest in these, however, we would highly recommend making sure you are in the correct shell size and shape for your foot.
The Tour Tongue 12mm is fairly close to the stock liner in the Maestrale RS, which is also an Intuition product. It would not dramatically change the fit in the boot. If you have not molded your current liners, and you don't have a ton of days on them yet, I would try that first. Generally speaking, fixing shell fit problems with liners is somewhat of a band-aid solution and doesn't always work very well.
For a truly custom fit around the heel and ankle, a Zipfit GFT or injectable Backland Professional liner would offer more customization. Before you invest in these, however, we would highly recommend making sure you are in the correct shell size and shape for your foot.
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1/26/2025
I have the new ZGTP and have been having a little bit of slop in the fit of the boot. What would be the next step up in volume, 9mm, 12mm, or 15mm?
1/26/2025
Hi Owen,
I'd recommend the 12mm! The 9mm gets pretty close to the fit of the stock liner, whereas the 12mm is noticeably thicker. The 15mm is more than the majority of skiers would want in this boot!
I'd recommend the 12mm! The 9mm gets pretty close to the fit of the stock liner, whereas the 12mm is noticeably thicker. The 15mm is more than the majority of skiers would want in this boot!
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1/25/2025
Hi, I want to replace the liner for my Dynafit Beast 26.5. The stock liner is very thin. What thickness would be best for this boot?
1/25/2025
Hi Kirill,
I would go with the 9mm, that will be a bit thicker than the stock liner. You could go with a 12mm as well if you wanted to take up a good bit more space.
I would go with the 9mm, that will be a bit thicker than the stock liner. You could go with a 12mm as well if you wanted to take up a good bit more space.
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1/25/2025
Looking to replace my liners for the Atomic Backland Carbon XTD 120 27.5. Would these be the best liner option and what thickness would be good?
1/25/2025
Hi Dustin,
I would go with a 9mm Tour Tongue! I think that would be a great drop-in replacement for the stock liner, and pretty comparable in thickness. The 12mm would be too much for most people in this boot.
I would go with a 9mm Tour Tongue! I think that would be a great drop-in replacement for the stock liner, and pretty comparable in thickness. The 12mm would be too much for most people in this boot.
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1/21/2025
Hi! I have the Dynafit Hoji Free 130's in 29.5 and the original Sidas needs replacement. I'm looking at the Intuition Tour Tongues and am wondering what volume and size is the best match to the original stock fit. 9mm, 12mm or 15mm in 29 or 30? The original liners have fit well after some heating of the plastic shells to open up the instep and ankle area (tight and painful at first). Thanks!
1/21/2025
Hi Bill,
The 9mm is the closest to the stock liner, but it's a little bit thinner. The 12mm is a good bit thicker. I'd lean towards the 9mm as long as the stock liner wasn't too thin.
The 9mm is the closest to the stock liner, but it's a little bit thinner. The 12mm is a good bit thicker. I'd lean towards the 9mm as long as the stock liner wasn't too thin.
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1/21/2025
I have a 2019 Salomon XPro 100 in mondo size 26/26.5 306mm. Would like to replace the stock liner, which fit well out of the box. Can you recommend a size that would match the stock liner the best?
1/21/2025
Jack, These Intuition liners are designed for touring boots, but will work in resort boots. You want the same size liner s your boots, so the size 26. The 12mm would be closest to your stock liner.
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1/15/2025
Looking to get a replacement line for my Dynafit Radial Pros - have had some work done to accommodate my rather severe ankle bones. Want the padding but don't want pressure. What is the right liner for the boot?
1/15/2025
Hi JGS!
The Intuition Tour Tongue would certainly be a suitable replacement! The 9mm is slightly thinner than the stock liner, while the 12mm being thicker. Either are suitable depending on your goals, especially with a heat mold in mind. Being that you may have had some complicated boot fitting work done, send us an email at help@skimo.co and we can dive into the details. Thanks!
The Intuition Tour Tongue would certainly be a suitable replacement! The 9mm is slightly thinner than the stock liner, while the 12mm being thicker. Either are suitable depending on your goals, especially with a heat mold in mind. Being that you may have had some complicated boot fitting work done, send us an email at help@skimo.co and we can dive into the details. Thanks!
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1/15/2025
Looking to put these into my Tecnica Zero G touring boots. I was planning to go with the 9mm thickness but wasn't sure how that compares to the stock liners. I tried looking it up but no luck, any advice?
1/15/2025
Hi Kyle,
Do you have the Zero G Peak or the Zero G Tour Pro/Scout? The 9mm is a bit thick for the Peak but will work. It's a bit thin for the Tour Pro, the 12mm will be closer to the stock liner.
Do you have the Zero G Peak or the Zero G Tour Pro/Scout? The 9mm is a bit thick for the Peak but will work. It's a bit thin for the Tour Pro, the 12mm will be closer to the stock liner.
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1/13/2025
Hi guys, I have the Scarpa Quattro SL with about a 12mm shell fit. The boots fit well, I’m pretty much in the middle of all the buckles/ladders. I’ve got probably a dozen or so big days on them and there is a smidge of lateral slop in the forefoot that I’d like to snug up. Would you recommend this liner in 9mm, 12mm, or something totally different?
Thanks!
Thanks!
1/14/2025
Hi Jake,
A 9mm would be a bit thin, 12mm a bit thick. Unfortunately there isn't really anything in between the 9 and 12 thickness. I'd say go with the 12mm and mold it aggressively.
A 9mm would be a bit thin, 12mm a bit thick. Unfortunately there isn't really anything in between the 9 and 12 thickness. I'd say go with the 12mm and mold it aggressively.
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1/5/2025
I have a pair of dynafit hoji free in 29.5 that I currently ski the stock liner with no insole (I hate the feeling of custom insoles). My feet are very low volume across the top. I'm looking to take up some of that volume.
I tried the Intuition Tour-Wrap Dd 12Mm Liner in size 29, they fit the lower alright but there was way too much liner around the calf for the shell. Do you think the tongue version would fit better and what length and thickness?
I tried the Intuition Tour-Wrap Dd 12Mm Liner in size 29, they fit the lower alright but there was way too much liner around the calf for the shell. Do you think the tongue version would fit better and what length and thickness?
1/6/2025
Hi Joe,
A 12mm Tour Tongue in a 29 would be a great option - similar thickness in the footbox, with less volume in the cuff.
A 12mm Tour Tongue in a 29 would be a great option - similar thickness in the footbox, with less volume in the cuff.
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1/3/2025
I purchased a 12mm 26 liner for my Dynafit Ridge boot, and out of the box the liner feels extremely tight at the toe box. Like, couldn't keep them on for 5 minutes at home tight. Would the 9mm thickness be more appropriate? Based on a quick google it seems that the stock liner for this boot is only 5mm. TIA
1/3/2025
Hi Garrett,
The 9mm Tour Tongue would be the right thickness! It is pretty close to the stock liner, but may be slightly thicker in some places. After heat molding, it will be a nice fit and a good replacement for stock. Intuition liners do need a good heat mold to open up the instep and the toe box, but I agree that the 12mm is too thick for most people in the Ridge boot.
The 9mm Tour Tongue would be the right thickness! It is pretty close to the stock liner, but may be slightly thicker in some places. After heat molding, it will be a nice fit and a good replacement for stock. Intuition liners do need a good heat mold to open up the instep and the toe box, but I agree that the 12mm is too thick for most people in the Ridge boot.
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12/19/2024
Hi there! Thanks for all the help. Y'all rock.
Real quick, looking to replace original Sidas liners in some Salomon MTN Lab's, older blue and yellow versions. That liner seemed to be all right until it wore out. Wondering if you might have a suggestion for mm width with the Intuition tongue tours . . . 9, 12, 15?
Again, thanks!
Real quick, looking to replace original Sidas liners in some Salomon MTN Lab's, older blue and yellow versions. That liner seemed to be all right until it wore out. Wondering if you might have a suggestion for mm width with the Intuition tongue tours . . . 9, 12, 15?
Again, thanks!
12/19/2024
Hi jer, we don't have the exact boot on hand to compare, but we do have an MTN Explore, which had a slightly thinner liner than the Lab you have. Based on that, the Medium Volume / 12mm Intuition is very likely the closest option for you.
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12/14/2024
Hi, do you have a recommended size and thickness to replace the stock liners for size 28.5 Dalbello Quantum Free Asolo Factory 130 (phew!) boots? Stock liners fit fine but they're packed out and the flex panels have torn.
12/15/2024
Hi Eric,
I would go with the 9mm Tour Tongues in a 28! They may be slightly thicker than stock around the forefoot, but a heat mold should take care of that. Great liners. Alternatively, the Palau Power LT could also be a great option with a little bit thinner foam around the foot, a little closer to the stock fit.
I would go with the 9mm Tour Tongues in a 28! They may be slightly thicker than stock around the forefoot, but a heat mold should take care of that. Great liners. Alternatively, the Palau Power LT could also be a great option with a little bit thinner foam around the foot, a little closer to the stock fit.
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12/7/2024
I wear Fischer Travers CS in 26.5. That a comfort fit and after packing out the liner I have heel lift and wouldn't mind reducing volume. I'd like to try Intuition Tour Tongue Liners to snug thing up. Should I get 12mm or 15mm?
12/9/2024
Hi Matt,
Happy to help! I wouldn't really recommend either of those liners for the Travers. The 15mm will not fit, and the 12mm is still too thick to be appropriate for that boot. I understand that you're trying to take up space, but the Travers was designed around a very thin stock liner and these are simply too big to work properly.
I'd recommend a 9mm Intuition Tour Tongue if you have a preference for Intuition - it will still be a fair amount thicker than stock. Or, our go-to recommendation for a thicker liner for the Travers would be a Palau Power LT. We like the Palaus for lighter weight boots because they walk a bit better and fit well into the lightweight shells.
Happy to help! I wouldn't really recommend either of those liners for the Travers. The 15mm will not fit, and the 12mm is still too thick to be appropriate for that boot. I understand that you're trying to take up space, but the Travers was designed around a very thin stock liner and these are simply too big to work properly.
I'd recommend a 9mm Intuition Tour Tongue if you have a preference for Intuition - it will still be a fair amount thicker than stock. Or, our go-to recommendation for a thicker liner for the Travers would be a Palau Power LT. We like the Palaus for lighter weight boots because they walk a bit better and fit well into the lightweight shells.
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11/6/2024
Hello,
I got a pair of Scarpa Maestrale RS size 26 near the end of last season. I have been to a couple boot fitters and the shell is a good fit, but I have been getting bad heel blisters. I have added a superfeet insole, experimented with heel lifters and foam around the ankle to improve the heel hold, no luck - still lots of heel movement. I am considering trying the Zipfit GFT for improved heel hold, but they sure look heavy and expensive. Do you think this Tour tongue would substantially improve the heel hold while touring? thanks
I got a pair of Scarpa Maestrale RS size 26 near the end of last season. I have been to a couple boot fitters and the shell is a good fit, but I have been getting bad heel blisters. I have added a superfeet insole, experimented with heel lifters and foam around the ankle to improve the heel hold, no luck - still lots of heel movement. I am considering trying the Zipfit GFT for improved heel hold, but they sure look heavy and expensive. Do you think this Tour tongue would substantially improve the heel hold while touring? thanks
11/7/2024
Hi pat, the Intuition Tour Tongue liners are not going to be very different from the stock liner that comes with a Maestrale. It's also made by Intuition and somewhat comparable to the 12mm thickness here. The GFT could be a good option. It does provide good heel hold when molded, though it is significantly heavier than other liner options.
2/11/2025
Hey Pat,
Try leucotape for your heels. I get bad blisters if I don’t tape my heels and this medical tape is really sticky and stays on all day no matter how sweaty. This makes it so I can unbuckle while skinning and have more freedom/ range and no blisters
Try leucotape for your heels. I get bad blisters if I don’t tape my heels and this medical tape is really sticky and stays on all day no matter how sweaty. This makes it so I can unbuckle while skinning and have more freedom/ range and no blisters
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11/2/2024
I am still skiing the Garmont Venus and they have always been too big but it’s the smallest size they made. Want to replace my old Pro Tour liners with these Tour Toungue liners but not sure if I should go 12 or 15mm. I can pretty easily fit 2 (little) fingers in for a shell fit but my husband can only do 1.5. Is there a measurement or something less subjective to decide this? Thanks
11/2/2024
Hi Emily! I think the 12mm with the addition of a heat mold would be best. Heat molding the 15mm liners may also work, but being a thicker liner, they may create fit issues elsewhere. To discuss this further, send an email to help@skimo.co and we can dive into the details. Thanks!
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