I have a pair of 24/25 Tecnica zero g tour pro's that are 29.5. Im usually a size 28.5 for alpine boots. The boots originally fit well, but after 20 or so rides they developed some play from the liner packing out. The shell fit is two fingers.
Do you think it's best to go with the 15mm liner to take up a little space or to go with a 12mm?
Intuition Tour Tongue Liners
Being synonymous with comfort and performance, Intuition has rightfully been atop the leaderboard when it comes to high-quality after-market liners. Taking over from the venerable Pro Tour liner, the Tour Tongue has received subtle design updates that improve upon this already successful formula. As with all Intuition liners, the Tour Tongue is built using a highly customizable foam that when heated, comfortably accommodates many different foot shapes. While the main body of the Tour Tongue uses a moderately compliant dual-density foam, the toebox utilizes a low dual-density foam that aims to provide more comfort during a big day out. Purposefully designed with modern touring boots in mind, the Tour Tongue features a rear flex zone that allows you to capitalize on the impressive range of motion definitive of modern touring boots, allowing you to move quickly and efficiently. Compared to the Pro Tour, the Tour Tongue features a thinner sole thickness, a revised J-bar that allows for better heel hold and ankle support, and a sewn-in tongue for durability. Finally, the Tour Tongue is offered in three thicknesses, allowing you to select the best option for the fit of your boots.
Whether you want to add warmth, performance, or comfort to your existing touring boot, the Tour Tongue is a worthwhile upgrade.
- Fully heat-moldable for a comfortable and individualized fit.
- Low-density foam is strategically used in the toe box, helping provide comfort on big days out.
- Internal J-bar helps to lock down the heel and provide support for bony ankles.
- Rear flex zone allows you to enjoy the excellent range of motion found on modern touring boots.
- Antimicrobial treatment (helps) fight off odor-causing bacteria.
- Included 4mm high-density foam shim allows you to modify liner volume.
- 9mm is low-volume, 12mm is medium volume, and 15mm is high-volume.
Sizing guide:
- 9mm liners are appropriate for most lightweight touring boots, such as the Scarpa F1, Dynafit Ridge, etc. 9mm Intuition Tour liners are thicker than the stock liners in most lightweight boots.
- 12mm liners are appropriate for most freeride touring boots, such as the Tecnica Zero G Pro Tour, Scarpa Maestrale, etc.
- 15mm liners are only appropriate in heavier/higher volume boots, usually when the boot is too big for the user and the goal is to fill up extra space. 15mm is too thick for most touring boots, sized correctly.
If you need help choosing the best Intuition liner for your boots, please reach out to us at help@skimo.co, or give us a call!
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11/1/2025
11/1/2025
Hey Ryan,
The consensus around here is the 12mm (medium volume) Tour Tongue liner would likely be the best solution.
The consensus around here is the 12mm (medium volume) Tour Tongue liner would likely be the best solution.
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10/17/2025
What size would you recommend for a 25.5 scarpa quattro xt? My forefoot is a little tight, but i definitely have some room in the cuff. Getting close to needing a new liner, and I’m considering these in a 9mm 25
10/18/2025
Hi Wren, I would go with the 9mm 25 - that would be fairly similar or slightly thinner in the lower and similar or very slightly thicker in the cuff. You could also go with a 9mm Tour Wrap if you wanted to take up a good bit more volume in the cuff.
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10/17/2025
Hi! Do you know if you'll be getting more of these? Specifically 26 in 12mm or 9mm
10/17/2025
Hi Sam, we'll be getting more sometime this fall - tentatively mid November. If you click Out of Stock Options in the dropdown above, you can add your email to a notification list if you'd like.
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10/10/2025
I have an older pair of Scarpa Freedom SL boots. I wear 26.5 Looking at the Intuition Tour Liner, I think the medium thickness would be best, but could I go with the thick(15mm) liner?
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10/10/2025
Hi Nate, I would guess the medium volume would be the way to go, but if you felt like the boots had a good bit too much volume all-around, you could go with the 15mm.
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9/17/2025
I'm hoping to double dip and get a single replacement liner for a size 28 F1 XT (302 bsl) and a size 27.5 Radical Pro (307 bsl). Do you think I could shove a 9mm size 28 liner in both, or would a 27 be better? (or is that just a bad idea?) Thanks
9/18/2025
Hi Ben, it'll be pretty tricky to get a good fit in both boots with one liner. The 27 would be the correct size for both pairs, but they'd be too thin for the Radical Pro, and possibly a bit thick for the F1 XT.
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8/30/2025
Hi! So I already have a better pair of touring boots, but have a pair of old Salomon X-ALP carbons in size 28 that I want to use for longer but less steep tours. They are the same length as my 27 touring boots and the liner is dead (bought them used already) so I have a bit of room especially in the ankle. What size and thickness of liner should I replace them with? Thanks!
9/1/2025
Sarah, The old X-ALP boot is very low volume, but didn't have a real thin liner like most light boots.
So the Size 27, 9mm could work in there.
So the Size 27, 9mm could work in there.
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8/12/2025
I have a Fischer transalp pro in 27.5 — the toe box of the stock liner is super tight/low volume for my toes and I cannot for the life of me stretch it to get more comfort. Would a size 28 9mm be able to fit in this boot, or would a size 27 be more appropriate (and if so would I be able to get more room in the toes)?
8/12/2025
Hi John,
Generally speaking, we recommend using the same size liner as your shells. If the liners are too tight and you have more room in the shell, then going up a size might work. Just keep in mind that the 28 will be overall more material than the 27, so it could end up fitting lower volume than the 27.
Generally speaking, we recommend using the same size liner as your shells. If the liners are too tight and you have more room in the shell, then going up a size might work. Just keep in mind that the 28 will be overall more material than the 27, so it could end up fitting lower volume than the 27.
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8/9/2025
I have a zero g tour pro 30.5 that I want to fill a bit more volume in. I’m usually a 29.5 for a super tight shell fit but had to size up for walkability, toes press hard to the front on a forward stride on all the models I tried. No 29.5 touring boot fit my narrow long feet and stock liners don’t take up enough room, the top buckle feels correct on the unmolded liner after moving the ladder and clipping to the last rung. 1.5 finger shell fit but the main issue is higher cuff volume, could probably take up some more heel cup room. Would 15mm make sense here? I figure 12mm might pack out too quickly
8/11/2025
Hi Daniel, I think it would be hard to get the 15mm to fit at first. You might need to heat mold them pretty aggressively. The 12mm Tour Wrap would be another option if cuff volume is the priority. Then you can add foam to the heel to take up space - the Patriot Liner Sleeves can help with that as well.
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5/1/2025
Replacing liners for my TLT6 Performance boot, size 28, BSL 307. Old liners were the Intuition Pro Tour LV size 28. I just ordered the new Intuition tour tongue LV size 28 and they seem bigger/roomier than my old 28s. Id like to get more performance out of my TLTs and wondering if I should go for the size 27 in the tour tongue (LV or MV?) or consider something else like the Palau All Track Power MV?
5/1/2025
Hi Vince, I would think the 9mm Tour Tongue would be perfect for that boot. You could go up to the 12mm if you want to take up more room. I wouldn't size down, they'll be even roomier after the liner breaks in. The All Track Power is a good bit thinner than the 9mm Intuition as well.
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4/14/2025
I have a Dynafit Ridge Pro ski boot in size 26.5.
What liner do you recommend for this, maybe Alpine Tour Tongue Style size 26.5, 9mm ?
Standard liners are a good size but uncomfortable.
How much does this liner weigh ?
What liner do you recommend for this, maybe Alpine Tour Tongue Style size 26.5, 9mm ?
Standard liners are a good size but uncomfortable.
How much does this liner weigh ?
4/14/2025
Hi Juho, the Intuition Tour Tongue 26 9mm or Palau All Track Power MV would be the way to go. The Palau is similar to the stock liner, and the Intuition is a bit thicker. I've got a pair of 9mm in my Ridge Pro and they fit great.
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4/5/2025
Do you recommend initial heat molding or skiing them in? I've been told by two boot fitters that it's better just to break them in through skiing. I wouldn't necessarily want to create more space inside the boot by packing them out, but I was still surprised bc I thought fitting intuitions with heat molding was one of their key features. Is that different with the tour models?
4/6/2025
Hi Rett,
We always recommend heat molding new Intuition liners (or any moldable liner, really), before skiing. If you are in a shell that fits correctly, you will not lose any precision in the fit from heat molding. Rather, you will create a more custom fit around the ankle and heel, create a bit more room in the toes (and anywhere else you might need it), and save yourself much of the discomfort of breaking in new liners.
We always recommend heat molding new Intuition liners (or any moldable liner, really), before skiing. If you are in a shell that fits correctly, you will not lose any precision in the fit from heat molding. Rather, you will create a more custom fit around the ankle and heel, create a bit more room in the toes (and anywhere else you might need it), and save yourself much of the discomfort of breaking in new liners.
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3/21/2025
I'm looking to replace the stock Intuition liners in my Roxa R3 Ultralight 110 T.I. Boot (size 28.5). Current fit through the calf to midfoot is reasonably snug but I have probably too much room in the forefoot/toe box. Biggest problem is with blisters on my bony naviculars (plan to visit a boot fitter soon) and I just now noticed there is a vertical seam on the inside of the liner that runs right down the middle of of that spot (see pic). Are there any liners that don't have a seam there (and also not at the back of the heel)? Any specific liner suggestions? I'm thinking maybe a 12mm size 28? Thanks!
3/21/2025
Hi Rob,
It sounds like you have some shell fit issues! You probably need a punch in the navicular to relieve pressure on that area - I don't think the liners are the cause. With that said, an Intuition Tour Wrap liner doesn't have the seam in that spot.
You probably do want a 12mm liner for that boot, noting that if you go with the wrap, it will fill up more space in the cuff than a tongue-style liner. It may not totally resolve your issue of having a roomy forefoot - all foam liners ultimately pack out, and the only permanent solution is a better-fitting shell. But, it's very possible that it would be snugger for a while.
It sounds like you have some shell fit issues! You probably need a punch in the navicular to relieve pressure on that area - I don't think the liners are the cause. With that said, an Intuition Tour Wrap liner doesn't have the seam in that spot.
You probably do want a 12mm liner for that boot, noting that if you go with the wrap, it will fill up more space in the cuff than a tongue-style liner. It may not totally resolve your issue of having a roomy forefoot - all foam liners ultimately pack out, and the only permanent solution is a better-fitting shell. But, it's very possible that it would be snugger for a while.
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3/10/2025
hello, i have a k2 dispatch pro 26.5 and looking for the new liner. now i feel my stock liner is little lose the looking for more tighter liner. which liner will you recommend for me?
3/10/2025
Hello Jaeyoun, The size 26 12mm would be the one. Seems we are out now.
We do have some in the Intuition Wrap liners
We do have some in the Intuition Wrap liners
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3/7/2025
Hi! I have a pair of 2021/2022 Lange XT3 Tour Pro that I love (size 27.5). The liner has packed out pretty good, and I am interested in the Intuition Tour liners. My question, what density would closest meet the stock Lange liners? I tried a 15mm Intuition liner that was so tight in the boot I literally couldn't get my foot in there! (laughing). So I am kinda stuck between the 9mm and the 12mm. Thoughts? Pictures below for reference. Thanks!
3/7/2025
Hi Kelly,
I think most people would want the 12mm in that boot! The 12mm is slightly thicker than the stock liner, so it may feel a bit tight at first, but Intuition liners are designed to be heat molded and can compress significantly once heated up. If you heat mold the 12mm in that boot, I think you'd have a great fit. If you have a very tight shell fit, and/or a very tight fit in the cuff, and want to air on the thin side, then I'd suggest the 9mm.
I think most people would want the 12mm in that boot! The 12mm is slightly thicker than the stock liner, so it may feel a bit tight at first, but Intuition liners are designed to be heat molded and can compress significantly once heated up. If you heat mold the 12mm in that boot, I think you'd have a great fit. If you have a very tight shell fit, and/or a very tight fit in the cuff, and want to air on the thin side, then I'd suggest the 9mm.
3/7/2025
Thank you Carlos! Really really helpful. :) I'll go with the 12mm liners then! Cheers.
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3/6/2025
Hello, I have a pair of 22/23 or 23/24 (I'm honestly not sure) Tecnica Zero G Tour Scout boots in size 28.5. I ripped the tongue out of one of the liners, so need a replacement for the stock liners. What would be the best size and thickness to order to get close to the stock liners, which fit my feet well?
Are there any concerns about these liners fitting into older Tecnica boots?
Are there any concerns about these liners fitting into older Tecnica boots?
3/6/2025
Hi Adam,
No concerns about compatibility with the Pro Tour, even if it's a few years old!
I would recommend the 9mm if you want to ensure that the new liner is not any thicker than the original. The 12mm is definitely a bit thicker than the stock liner - I think after heat molding, it works for many people, but if you have a snug fit in the boot and don't want to add any foam to the cuff or forefoot, then the 9mm is a great way to go!
No concerns about compatibility with the Pro Tour, even if it's a few years old!
I would recommend the 9mm if you want to ensure that the new liner is not any thicker than the original. The 12mm is definitely a bit thicker than the stock liner - I think after heat molding, it works for many people, but if you have a snug fit in the boot and don't want to add any foam to the cuff or forefoot, then the 9mm is a great way to go!
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3/3/2025
Hi there. I have a pair of Atomic Hawx 130 UltraXTD, size 26/26.5, narrow fit. I have been recommended a pair of intuition liners to take up some space on the top of my foot, as well as to eliminate rubbing and blisters near the heals. Is the 9mm or 12mm a better choice? Any thoughts are most appreciated!
3/3/2025
Hi David!
For this boot and your goals, go with the 12mm. You could also consider the Patriot Footbeds Liner Sleeve to help take up heel/ankle volume and Boot Shims to reduce the space over the top of the foot. Thanks!
For this boot and your goals, go with the 12mm. You could also consider the Patriot Footbeds Liner Sleeve to help take up heel/ankle volume and Boot Shims to reduce the space over the top of the foot. Thanks!
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3/2/2025
Rob
(used product a few times)
I found these a very nice upgrade from my scarpa maestrale liners, but very different fit. I got the 9mm version and it was way more roomy which was what I needed for my mid foot and toes but for my small heel I added the patriot footbed ankle sleeve to lock in my heels better. This was a great combo to relieve the pressure points I was having in the 6th toe and mid foot but have a snug heel fit.
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3/2/2025
I have a pair on tlt-x xtra wide in 30.5. I was intentionally going big and wide for touring comfort. However, if there had been a 29.5 it probably would have been a better fit after liner pack out etc (but that size was not available). I do have high arches and footbeds in. I have a wide forefoot hence the extra wide. Was thinking about a ticket liner end thinner socks and then molding them. Currently I’m using some very thick socks. What liner size and thickness would you recommend? Street shoe is about 12. I was thinking size 30, 12mm? Would this work in the extra wide shells? Or would it squeeze my forefoot?
3/3/2025
Hi Jmar,
I will preface by saying that generally, your shell is too big, and you may have issues even with a thicker liner. With that said, it will probably improve the fit compared to the stock liner, at least temporarily, as it will take up more space. 12mm is more than we would usually recommend in such a light boot, but in this case, it may be appropriate! Be aware that it will be quite a bit thicker than the stock liner everywhere, including in the cuff - if you have bigger calves, it may be too big in that area.
You will want to heat mold the liners for the best fit, especially if going with the 12mm. Thin socks are always best for touring!
I will preface by saying that generally, your shell is too big, and you may have issues even with a thicker liner. With that said, it will probably improve the fit compared to the stock liner, at least temporarily, as it will take up more space. 12mm is more than we would usually recommend in such a light boot, but in this case, it may be appropriate! Be aware that it will be quite a bit thicker than the stock liner everywhere, including in the cuff - if you have bigger calves, it may be too big in that area.
You will want to heat mold the liners for the best fit, especially if going with the 12mm. Thin socks are always best for touring!
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2/25/2025
I have a pair of TLT X in size 28.5. The fit is great, but I would like to take up a little more space for a touch more downhill performance. I already put in a Surefoot blue insert, but am looking at also adding a size 28 liner to take up a little more space. Would these work?
2/25/2025
Hi Evan,
This liner could potentially work in a 9mm if you have a fairly loose fit in the boot, but it is a considerable step up in thickness and stiffness. The 12mm and 15mm options would be much too thick. The Palau Alltrack Power might be a better option, as it is also thicker than stock, but walks a little better and isn't quite as burly as the Intuition.
This liner could potentially work in a 9mm if you have a fairly loose fit in the boot, but it is a considerable step up in thickness and stiffness. The 12mm and 15mm options would be much too thick. The Palau Alltrack Power might be a better option, as it is also thicker than stock, but walks a little better and isn't quite as burly as the Intuition.
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2/25/2025
Hi there, my wife has some much loved TLT5s (size 25.5) but the liners have been worn and packed out over the years. I realize it’s going back into the archives, but would you recommend a size 25 or 26? I was planning on picking the middle of the road 12mm thickness. Thanks!
2/25/2025
Hi Conger,
You will want a size 25 liner, most likely in the 9mm thickness! The 12mm is a good thickness for heavier freeride boots which have beefier liners, but is too much for the vast majority of lightweight touring boots. The 9mm liner will still be notably thicker than stock, but more reasonable to use in that boot!
You will want a size 25 liner, most likely in the 9mm thickness! The 12mm is a good thickness for heavier freeride boots which have beefier liners, but is too much for the vast majority of lightweight touring boots. The 9mm liner will still be notably thicker than stock, but more reasonable to use in that boot!
2/25/2025
Excellent, thank you for the answer and the guidance on thickness!
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