Intuition Pro Tour Liners
Closed-cell EVA foam is known for its ability to hold a mold. That means after having your liners heat molded, they won’t start to return to a former shape and crowd your feet. The foam is also warmer than some other liner materials and is very dense which helps in high-performance skiing. All Intuition liners are made with specially formulated closed-cell EVA foam, which is why they are often the first choice for pro skiers. The Pro Tour is an Intuition foam liner with flex zones to improve articulation in touring boots.
- Uniform cell structure traps gasses for the highest quality memory foam.
- Patented foam without fillers is lighter than traditional sewn or injected liners.
- Ankle flex zone increases comfort and range of motion when skiing uphill.
- Integrated lacing system securely wraps your foot to help avoid blisters.
- Liners can be reheated several times and will still retain their shape.
- Available with three thickness ratings: low, medium, and high volume*.
* The Low Volume version is much thinner than the Medium Volume and weighs 22g less in size 26. The High Volume is much thicker than the Medium Volume liner and will take up more space making the fit tighter.
* Sizing: For whole-sized touring boots (e.g. 26.0), order the liner in the same size as your boot. For half sizes (e.g. 26.5), round down for most boot models except those using "SCARPA sizing" (where 26.5 is the same shell as 27.0). For SCARPA boots, round up. If you have questions, you can call or email us at help@skimo.co and we can help find your best liner.
Update 2023/24: The Pro Tour has been replaced by the Tour Tongue, which can be found here.
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It would work, and would be most appropriate for someone who has a relatively snug fit in the shell. The low volume would not add any thickness over stock. The MV/12mm would be more appropriate for skiers who want to add a little more support and foam compared to the stock liner.
These would work well. The stock liner is in between the LV and MV, so go with a LV if you want more room in the boot or a MV if you want to take up more room.
You can do that, and it would put more foam into the boot, potentially tightening things up. It will also increase things like the height of the liner, which might stick out a bit more from the shell. I think I would recommend going with a 25 liner, and getting the thicker MV version - these should be a bit thicker than the stock liner, and help take up some space without being excessive.
Beyond liners, tools like footbeds and boot shims can help to reduce volume in a boot for a more secure fit.
What volume Pro Tours would you recommend for these boots, and would the 25 or 26 fit more readily in them?
Thanks!
A low volume 25 would be the way to go.
A low volume would fit, but would take up a good deal more volume than the stock liner, especially out of the box. I'd go with the 27.
The new Tour Tongue has some nice minor improvements, but the overall fit will be the same.
Tecnica boots do not have half sizes and are 27/27.5. Thus you should get the 27.
In the past, I've used 27.0 Tour Wrap Intuition Liner for 28.0 314mm Scarpa Maestrale RS.
I am wondering if I should have been using 28.0 size liner for Scarpa?
Can you confirm the best size and volume for this liner for 311mm 28
0 Scarpa Masterle XT 2021 to 2022 model?
Thanks!
Realistically, most people can probably wear two different mondo sizes of liner in their boots with a heat mold and not notice a huge difference.
Scarpa is trickier because their sizes break on the half size. So a 28 Maestrale will be closer to a 27.5 from other brands. That said, the Maestrale also runs a little bit big relative to Scarpa's other boots. So I would say I'd lean towards the size 28 liner, I think it would be a little closer.
Volume will depend on what you want to do with the fit. If the boot is a tight fit for you all around, go with the 9mm thickness. If you want to fill slightly more room than stock, the 12mm is great. The 12mm thickness with a good heat mold will result in a snugger fit than stock, but will pack out where it needs to. So if you have a little bit of extra room, that would be the way to go.
Given that you have used a wrap liner in the past, I would lean towards the 12mm thickness. You'll lose a lot of cuff volume with the 9mm.
Do you think a 12mm pro tour/tour tongue would be a decent option to replace or better to go with 9mm to help with the top of foot pressure? Or maybe this isn't quite a liner issue...also, I assume size 26 on these would be the correct size.
You could go with the 12 and add some padding to the top of your foot when you mold the liner, or try the 9 and add some sort of permanent padding to the ankle. You could also try adding padding to the ankle of your current liners. The 9mm would be a bit on the thin side for the ZGTP, I would avoid that unless you really want more space all around.
Intuition in particular tends to pack out quite a bit when you mold them. A proper fit will feel pretty tight before molding. 12mm is a bit thicker than stock, 9mm is a decent bit thinner than the stock liner. In general, a thicker liner won't help much with having too much length/room in the toe box. Do you have some sort of aftermarket footbed in them? That can help hold your foot in the right spot in the boot.
Feel free to shoot us an email at help@skimo.co as well, happy to go more in-depth.
The Cosmos is pretty high volume and beefy, so I would go for a MV/12mm thickness Pro Tour if you want to fill up a bit of space compared to your packed out older liners. The 15mm/HV is probably more than you want, unless you're really loose everywhere.
i was thinking the Intuition Pro Tour medium volume size 26.
appreciate your thoughts. TY
In Scarpa boots specifically, 26.5 and 27 share a shell. So for Scarpa, if you have a 26.5, I would actually recommend a size 27 aftermarket liner. The medium volume will be a little bit thicker than the stock liner, but the key to fitting Intuitions is heat molding. With a mold, usually a little extra foam is a good thing, as it will adapt where it needs to in order to match your foot.
Touring boots (with very few exceptions) do not have real half sizes. 26 and 26.5 are the same shell for the vast majority of manufacturers (other than Scarpa). So we recommend the following, from the product description:
Sizing: For whole-sized touring boots (e.g. 26.0), order the liner in the same size as your boot. For half sizes (e.g. 26.5), round down for most boot models except those using "SCARPA sizing" (where 26.5 is the same shell as 27.0). For SCARPA boots, round up. If you have questions, you can call or email us at help@skimo.co and we can help find your best liner.
Thanks for your help.
In general, the distinctive feature of intuitions is their dense, very heat-moldable foam. This makes them very adaptable in a heat mold, and very warm. Intuitions may feel less comfortable when you first put them on, unmolded - but they will take on the shape of the foot extremely well in a mold.
Making some generalizations, Palau liners are also nice and heat moldable, but tend to feel a bit better out of the box. They also tend to walk a bit better than Intuitions, although Intuition does not really have a super lightweight offering to compare to Palau's lighter-weight liners. In general, Intuition liners are some of the best for heavier touring boots, for increasing downhill performance and fit as well as warmth. Palau makes great lighter-weight touring liners with an awesome range of motion and a very comfortable fit.
This would be a good replacement. The Medium Volume might be a little thicker than stock, but you can mold it to compress the foam where needed. The low volume might be a little thin for that boot. Intuition foam is very moldable and dense, so it should give you a nice ankle fit after heat molding and provide plenty of support!
As far as the laces go, you can just take them off :)
Thanks!
Would the low volume tour pro liner be a more comparable option to the liner that came with the radical pro boot? The cinch alone would be a huge upgrade to keep the liner snug and in place when in hike mode. Trying to salvage this boot for another season of hard skiing but desperately in need of new liners.
The Low Volume pro tour is slightly thinner than stock, but not by a ton. It is probably closer to stock, relatively, than the 12mm. I will say that you can get a lot of compression out of the intuition foam around the foot. When you are heat molding, you can buckle down the shell more aggressively to compress the foam more. You can also add padding to areas that you want to gain more room in. A good boot fitter should have no issue with this. So I would say if you found the stock liner lacking, the 12mm with an aggressive mold would give you a more custom fit. The caveat is that you cannot compress the tongue and calf area as effectively with a mold. So if the thicker liner is too big in the cuff area, then you are probably better off with the low volume. If you just have a lot of foam in the ankle and foot area, and the increased cuff padding is a good thing, I would stick with thicker and just really mold it out.
If you liked the stock liner, you could purchase a direct replacement here. Choose the "Dynafitter 10" in your size 25.5 for a direct replacement for the Radical Pro. If you would like a bit more thickness and support than stock, the size 25 Tour Tongue from Intuition , would be a great choice. The 12mm thickness will give you more cushioning and support, but you will need to heat mold it to get the ideal fit (we recommend this with any liner, but especially the Intuitions).
If you have any questions, feel free to email us at help@skimo.co!
Which volume Pro Tour would you recommend? I have skinny legs and feet, so taking up some volume compared to stock would be fine...
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