Kreuzspitze SCTT Binding

Wondering what the rough release value is on these? I should be a 7 or 8 generally.

My bindings are pre-releasing when climbing. The toes don't lock out because the locking lever does not engage the binding fully. Has anyone else had this problem? I'm going to "shim" them somehow, because as they are now, they are dangerous when skinning in icy conditions.

I'm on season three on these bindings and love them, overall. But this year the toe pins are showing quite a bit of wear after three modest seasons. I am walking out of them now on climbs, especially when side hilling. The toe lock mechanism has never locked or engaged well.

Anyone else had toe pin wear problems? Seems like the old Dynafit comforts lasted forever. Perhaps a weaker alloy on this binding?

Regarding setting up a leash from the heel, I would love to hear some specifics on the leash system. I tried a very simple system with some elastic type cord (will break if needed to) but it did not work out very well as the whole thing ended up under my boot when in touring mode, going uphill. Works fine going downhill. I have always used a toe attachment which does not have this problem. Any suggestions. Thanks in advance.

Howdy,
Just bought the Atomic skis with the Kr. SCTT bindings; arrived in good shape.
I've never used tech bindings before, don't know anyone who has and the instructions say very little (well...nothing) about the heel piece. I figured out the rotation but I'm wondering....for uphilling am I supposed to simply drop the pin protector over the heel pins OR rotate the whole thing 180 degrees and go heel down on the U shaped end of the pins? Also, after skiing on them for a while, if I decided I need the second riser position can I get that separately and is it easy to install?
Thanks,
CR

Looking to buy a set of these bindings but having trouble putting the order together.

Bindings for a. Set qty 1
Crampon attachments qty 1
Heel risers qty 1 (do I need to buy steel forks qty 1?)
Torx mounting screws qty 16
Torx adjustment plate 14mm qty 2
Torx adjustment plate bolt qty 2
Torx adjustment plate nut qty 2

Does this right? Please advise.

Looks like a leash attaches best to the back forks.
Where do you attach a leash if you install heel risers?

If a ski tech only had a dynafit jig could the 18mm heel plate pattern and the toe holes be accurately drilled? Thanks

I've used these 2 seasons now on a pair of rando race skis used primarily for speed touring. They are beautifully made and work flawlessly. The fixed release "setting" has been ideal for me - in touring and a couple days of resort use they've never pre-released (including skiing moguls), but have released on a couple of occasions when needed, including a forward ejection when my skis came to a sudden stop and my body kept going. I am 6'2" and 165 lbs.
The option of a flat setting is nice although seldom needed. I also bought the extra height risers but have never used them (I also tend not to use the high position much on standard touring bindings).
I installed them with the 18mm adjustment plates in the rear, which is great for multiple boots and still results in a nice low ramp angle. The connection between binding and plate has never loosened on me.
I would buy them again.

Great sounding reviews. Is this an appropriate binding for touring/ski mountaineering for the non-svelte? At a 175 lbs (and every so slowly gaining each year) I significantly outweigh some of the skiers above. A very rough idea of it's approximate release values might be useful. Thanks so much.

Does anybody have a suggestion on how and where to use a ski leash on this binding paired with a Scarpa Alien ski boot? I have as of yet to arrive at a satisfactory solution.

as an addition, i can give the information about the release values provided by kreutzspitze founder terragnolo bruno, who wrote to me (todate 2014) it is comparable to DIN 8-9 vertical and lateral.

i have like 20000 vertical meters on these bindings now, this is my first conclusion. binding has seen any condition possible. i weight in a 68kg (netto) without gear.
i use them on 3 different skis, an 178/88mm steepski, a 178/75mm touring ski, an my 160/65mm training sticks (rando race ski).
i really like the binding.
i primarly decided for this binding for the reason, there is an additional climbing aid ("coppia alzatacchi") wich can be (i did) mounted on the heelpiece fork (wich i think is just ingeniously constructed), not to be found in any other rando race binding. this may not be an issue or a point of interest for racers, but for ski mountaineers for sure is when you have to carry heavy loads.

first, the binding still works without any issues.

second, the screws (binding-to-bindingplate for dynafit tlt speed pattern on the heelpiece) never ever get loose, wich i think is great news, wich i was initially concerned about. i dont use loctite or anything. the same applies for the additionally climbing aid (screwed to the heelpiecefork).

third, the half-step heelpiece cover is (still) very tight. this is good news for recreational use and for training only in my opinion. nothing rattles.

fourth, i never prereleased in downhill mode (unlocked), but i usually go locked all the time.

fifth: screws are VERY reliable and of good quality. i remounted the binding very often this season, and screws still look like never used!

handling issues/problems:

i experienced in very rare cases, that the lockout came off (went to downhill mode) when downhill skiing. like 2 time maybe. i think this is not a big deal, but maybe the lockout should be revisioned in the next binding version to me more strong. on the other hand, the lockout as it is can be very easily handled without force like in dynafit bindings, this is a plus.

when fast traversing and steep kickturning, it occured a few times that the heelpiece rotated. same here, i think, the heelpiece should be a little bit harder to rotate with more force. less comfort then, but maybe accidential rotation will be prevented.

these are very minor issues in my opinion, and i would recommend the binding to anyone, not only rando racers, over expensive recreational skitouring bindings like dynafits radical st. of course, it is more then twice as expensive as a dynafit speed turn, so this is no comparison.

im very glad i decided for the kreuzspitze sctt, and see no reason to give other bindings a try. i think this is the very best wich can be said of a rando binding.

This was my first race style binding so I do not have much experience comparing them all. I use them for long range trips in Alaska and Central Asia. This binding is flawless. I use Dynafit cable leashes on the toes, and they work fine. I definitely recommend getting the heel risers and crampons too.
I have added some plum race bindings to my gear room since and can say I much prefer the German engineering to the French. Of note the titanium pins will not work with the heel risers. Buy them with steel unless you are a only going to race. But they do swap out easily with a hammer and drift pin.

Is the hole pattern on the toe pieces the same as for the "classic" Dynafit family of bindings (specifically: Comfort and Tour-Lite-Tech). In other words, can I swap without redrilling? Thank you

Curious whether there is any semi-reliable spot on the toe for attaching a leash. Hard to tell from the pics...

I have three questions about this binding. First, when you rotate the heel piece, is there a positive stop at different positions (90 degrees, 180 degrees, and so on)? Second, is there really a flat touring mode? In what position is the heel piece to accommodate flat touring? Last, what is the height in mm of the rear pins? Are they higher or lower than equivalent Dynafit bindings? I am thinking about the angle/ramp/delta of my boot. These look great--thanks.

I am curious about the construction of these bindings. How are the steel forks kept in place (i.e. what stops them from sliding back in the heel tower towards then rear of the ski when in ski mode)? I notice that the usual Dynafit style retainer piece that prevents this backwards slide is not visible in the pictures here.

Is there a release and if so what is the approximate DIN (lateral and vertical) of these and the Trab TR race adjustable bindings?
I am a 130 lb intermediate skier looking for a light binding for touring (likely carrying a full pack and possibly pulling a sled) but want to keep my knees intact during falls.

I got these a while ago and mounted them on some 174 Dynafit Cho Oyus. GREAT bindings. Super well made and they work as well as I could have hoped. I particularly like the fact that I can use a flat, middle or high rise (with the cool accessory heel risers) heel position for flats and climbing, something that no other AT race binding that I'm aware of will let you do. I also purchased the optional crampon attachment pieces which are works of art, as are the rest of these bindings. So far I haven't found ANY drawbacks, except for learning how to properly pronounce Kreuzspitze in German. Now I even have that mastered!