Getting the right ramp angle on your bindings can make the difference between skiing on-point or in the backseat with tired quads. B&D makes shims for almost every occasion. Choose a shim based on your binding and desired pin height delta, which can take some experimentation. Shorter boot sole lengths are more affected by delta because they end up with a higher ramp angle, thus look for thicker shims. Shorter skis also may benefit from thicker shims. For long skis and long feet, go thin to win. Some folks who shim their toes also increase the height of their heel risers to compensate. Do this with B&D Nubbins.
►ORDERING NOTE: All shims are sold in PAIRS, while the screws are priced INDIVIDUALLY.
Classic Shims x2 - Drilled to match both Classic and Radical hole patterns.
Classic Extensions x2 - Also known as “tips & tails,” these allow the Classic shims to be used with Comfort, Vertical ST, and Vertical FT bindings. They interlock with the Classic shims.
Radical 1.0 Shims x2 - Pair well with Dynafit Radical ST and FT bindings.
Rotation Shims x2 - Compatible with both Rotation and Radical ST 2.0 bindings.
Radical FT 2.0 Shims x2 - Yep, these work with Radical FT 2.0 bindings.
G3 ION Shims x2 - Compatible with G3 ION bindings. RIP.
Xenic Shims x2 - Made for the Fritschi Xenic bindings. Your quads will say thank you.
Vipec / Tecton Shims x2 - Compatible with Vipec and Tecton bindings. Please note some shims will come undrilled.
Kingpin Shims x2 - Works for Marker Kingpin, Alpinist, and Cruise bindings.
ATK Raider Shims x2 - Works with ATK Raider 10/12 and Freeraider 14/16 bindings. Not compatible with C-Raider or newer Raider Evo models.
ATK C-Raider Shims x2 - Purpose made for C-Raider bindings and their longer striker plate.
ATK Raider Universal Shims x2 - Shims that pair with older Raider models. Please note these are not compatible with Raider Evo or C-Raider models.
ATK Modern Shims x2 - Shims that pair with Raider Evo, RT Evo (>24/25), Haute Route Plus (>24/25), Crest (>24/25), and Raider SL models.
Backland / MTN Shims x2 - Perfect for your Atomic Backland, Salomon MTN bindings, or Armada Tracer Tour bindings.
18mm Pozi Screw - If you add some shims, you're going to need longer screws. These are alpine screws with a large head that works well with Plum bindings.
19mm Torx Screw - These are good for shimming lots of toes with 6.4mm shims. Small Torx head works especially well with Dynafit bindings. Find the screws here.
21.5mm Pozi Screw - Another alpine-style, large-head screw that works best with G3 ION and Plum models.
23.5mm Pozi Screw - Perfect for 4.7mm shims under Radical 1.0 & Vertical toes that already have baseplates. Medium size head.
28mm Pozi Screw - These are for raising the Radical ST or Vertical ST toes past 4.7mm, amongst other uses. Watch your depth, you may need to grind 'em down.
Hey Seth. Yeah, they are sold in pairs. What are you looking for though? I have a single Classic 4.7mm shim sitting by my desk and if it's what you need I'd be happy to sell it to you individually.
I'm going to get the Radical FT 2.0 4.7mm toe shim. What length screw do I need? And do I couple this shim with the baseplate that comes with the binding? I'm assuming that nubbins fit Radical 2.0, yes? Thanks!
Hi Seth, it depends on your ski, but probably around 19-20mm. Yes, the shims get mounted under the stock plate and the Nubbins work with the 2.0 version.
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12/31/2016
Question from
Tom H
I have dynafit speed turn bindings and want to get a ramp angle as close to zero as I can. What setup of shim and screws would you recommend?
Hi Tom, I'd get the 6.4mm classics with 19mm shims.
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12/20/2016
Question from
JP
I have some Speed Radicals already mounted up but I'd like to add a toe plate (6.4mm classic) to reduce ramp angle. The screws are epoxied, is it possible/recommended to remount in same holes? I'm handy but still a nube when it comes to mounting tech bindings...thanks!
Hi JP, it often depends on the ski whether a second mount in the same holes would be secure. With a decent reinforcement plate it shouldn't be a problem, as long as the epoxied screws don't take out the core with them.
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12/11/2016
Question from
Adam
Will a Classic 6.4 mm Shim work with Plum Guide Toe? Looking at the shim, you just use a existing hole pattern, correct? I know I can use the Plum Yak toe plate as well for a shim, however I would not like to drill a larger hole pattern consider the ski I would be using. If this does work, which screws would I use? Thanks for your help
This is a pretty-much perfect product. I was designing some ski packs and talking with Eric Carter about those packs and all kinds of other SkiMo gear. As we geeked out, he talked about binding ramp angles and boot ramp angles and I became fascinated - it was something I hadn't thought much about, but coming from a running background where I am very specific about the ramp of my shoes, it made a lot of sense.
Before mounting up my new Movement Shift skis with some Speed Radicals I read the Wildsnow article about ramp angle. While Eric is hardcore and like as little ramp as possible, I thought I'd start out with the 6.4mm B&D plate to bring my radicals down from 14.3 to 7.9. Since I had room, I added a couple 'gas pedal' shims to the toe of my boot, and I was in business. Eventually I took out one of the gas pedal shims, but now I feel so neutrally balanced over my skis that I can't believe the difference. It's a small change for sure, one that I don't notice first thing in the morning, but as the day wears on I feel like I'm still always were I want to be balanced over my skis.
I'm not advocating for low ramp angles, I'm not against them either. What, to me, matters most is getting in that perfect position on your skis, feeling like they are an extension of you, and like you are always where you want to be over them - feeling balanced and in command. With that in mind, these shims allow you to really dial in your position and get that perfect neutral feeling. Play with it, see what works best for you. Apparently they are fine to be stacked, so one day I may try to play around with going to an even lower ramp (love my Superlight 2.0 bindings that have a 7mm ramp, so going lower is definitely a possibility).
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9/11/2016
Question from
Tom Bush
Which shim should I choose for the Speed Turn 2.0?
Hi Tom, you want the Classic shims for the Speed Turn 2.0. There are 3 thicknesses available.
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8/22/2016
Question from
Tim
Hi, I want to shim a Speed Turn toe by up to 10 mm ... is there a large shim or should I add a 6.4 and 3.2 to achieve 9.6 mm ? I'm using inserts so will find some longer machine screws.
Hi Tim, 6.4mm is the thickest but some folks will stack them higher. If you do that, it's not a bad idea to put some adhesive (e.g. epoxy) between them so they act more like one.
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2/13/2016
Question from
Schalene
Hello Mike:
I have a pair of Dynafit FT12's and am finding that I am skiing on my toes, what shim could I get for these to balance the angles. Could you also tell me what screws would work for this setup.
Hi Schalene, you would want the Radical shims for that binding. Easiest is to get the 4.7mm shim and 23.5mm screws. If you go 6.4, you would need to grind down the 28mm screws.
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1/18/2016
Question from
Jim Odoriiso
I plan to mount a pair of 2015 TLT Speed Radicals to Solomon MTN Explorer 95 skis. My boots are Scarpa TX Pro. I believe the B & D Classic 6.4 mm shims are the ones I should use with longer 19 mm screws, but want to confirm before ordering. I also want to purchase a pair of crampons. Are the Dynafit 100 mm the best to use?
Hi Jim, yes you need the Classic version for those, and 6.4mm is a good height in my opinion. 19mm screws work perfectly with those. Aside from color, the 100mm crampons would be ideal for the MTN Explore.
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11/6/2015
Question from
ChuckM
Does the B&D toe shim work on the Radical FT? if so what do you do with the carbon stringer that runs between toe and heel pieces?
Hi ChuckM, the Radical shims will fit under the FT toe & baseplate, but not with the connector plate in place. You toss that in the bin.
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10/22/2015
Question from
Jasper
HI,
i wonder if the 28mm screws are long enough for combining the 6,4 mm and the 4,7 mm Radical Shims to reduce the ramp angle on my Radical FTs as close to 0 as possible.
Hi Jasper, you'd probably be OK with a 6.4 and a 3.2, but not enough bite with over 11mm of stack. Also, crampons might not work for you at those heights!
I know you have probably answered this in a previous post but I just wanted to clarify. I want to raise the toe pieces on my speed radicals and was a little confused from a previous answer, so my question was can you tell me which item I need and also do you have the proper screws available to compensate for the added thickness. Thank You.
Hi Chris, you want the Classic shims (thickness is a preference, 6.4 is most popular) and screws to match your chosen thickness (19mm works without modification for the 6.4s).
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1/24/2015
Question from
travis
I'm trying to shim up a pair of dynafit tlt speed classics. I'd like to get as close to flat ramp angle as possible. Which shim and screw combo do you recommend?
Hi Travis, flat would be 6.4mm + 3.2mm Classic shims, mounted with 28mm screws. I haven't tried that particular combo, but it would avoid the need to shorten the screws for the 6.4 shim by itself (25mm ski screws are hard to come by).
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12/23/2014
Adam Holmes (used product a few times)
After reading articles about ramp angle/toe-heel delta, I got some 6.4mm shims to raise the toepiece on a Dynafit Vertical ST binding. Took the binding from a +16mm to about +9.6mm for ramp delta. I'm pretty convinced this has made my downhill skiing much less tiring. Less tired = more vertical! Who would have thought this small change could affect my fun factor. Definitely worth the time, money, and slight weight penalty.
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12/7/2014
Question from
Mike
I ordered the B&D 4.7 classic shims for a pair of verticals but forgot the extensions. If I order the extensions and choose Qty:1, will that be a pair or 4 pieces total? Just want to make sure...
Thanks
Hey Mike, all the B&D shims are sold in pairs, so Qty:1 = 1 pair = 2 pieces.
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12/2/2014
Question from
george
So I was going to buy the 6.4 mm for my speed radical dynafit toepieces. This will work correct?
Second question: What length screws should I get? Do the toepieces screw into the shims and then different screws into the ski?
Hi George, 6.4 is a good thickness but note you want the "Classic" version for the Speed Radicals, versus the "Radical" version which is for the Radical ST/FT. The 19mm screws are perfect for going through the binding, shim holes, and into your ski. You need one screw per binding hole (4 per Speed Rad toe).
I believe the difference between the Radical and Classic shims is just the pattern and how it fits the outline of the plastic toe spacer found on the Radical ST (and not found on the Speed Radical). Bill B @ B&D suggested I get the "classic" style for the speed radical. In retrospect, it probably wouldn't have been a big deal to get the Radical (ST) style... and then I would have been able to combine my 3.2mm spacers with the Radical baseplates if I wanted to try more shimming.
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11/27/2014
Question from
Phil
I want to add a riser to my Speed Radical toes.( ~5mm
I'm debating which to order: the Dynafit ST riser or the B&D shims.
What are the pros/cons? Which is lighter?
I believe the Dynafit riser extension off the rear cannot be cut off because it is hollow underneath; is that correct? Is that the case with the B&D shim?
Hi Phil, the Radical ST toe plates are virtually the same in weight (29g) and thickness as the 6.4mm B&D shims. Both models have hollow areas underneath, but only the Dynafit version has protrusions fore and aft of the toe piece. There is not a great place to cut off those protrusions due to the structural pattern underneath, so go with the B&Ds if you don't want those.
Five Stars to B&D for filling a highly valuable niche in Tech binding after-market parts, and to Skimo Co for enhancing the availability.
More specifically though, many Dynafit and Tech-bindings are faulted for their relatively high heel > toe delta. The heel pins have to rest above a large spring to control lateral release, along with an adjustment track, yet the toe has no other reason to be anything but directly on top of the ski’s topskin. (For the detailed measurements, see Skimo Co’s “Binding Pin Heights” article.)
However, this delta is very easy to reduce with a toe shim – if you don’t mind spending hours cutting and drilling LDPE sheets and scrounging around for longer ski-specific screws (which aren’t available anywhere outside ski-related distribution channels).
Fortunately B&D now has an easy alternative. Yes, you can save some money by making them yourself. But if I had to do it all over again, I’d have Skimo Co ship these back in time for me!
Adam Holmes
(used product a few times)
