I have some Radical FT 2.0 bindings with a Scarpa Freedom SL boot in with 307mm sole length. It feels like I'm pitched forward and I find my quads burn much more than in my old Telemark setup, even after adjusting the forward lean to be less agressive.
I'm wondering if adding a toe shim is likely to help? If so, how thick of a shim do you recommend?
What length/type of screws do I need?
B&D Shims
Getting the right ramp angle on your bindings can make the difference between skiing on-point or in the backseat with tired quads. B&D makes shims for almost every occasion. Choose a shim based on your binding and desired pin height delta, which can take some experimentation. Shorter boot sole lengths are more affected by delta because they end up with a higher ramp angle, thus look for thicker shims. Shorter skis also may benefit from thicker shims. For long skis and long feet, go thin to win. Some folks who shim their toes also increase the height of their heel risers to compensate. Do this with B&D Nubbins.
►ORDERING NOTE: All shims are sold in PAIRS, while the screws are priced INDIVIDUALLY.
Classic Shims x2 - Drilled to match both Classic and Radical hole patterns.
Classic Extensions x2 - Also known as “tips & tails,” these allow the Classic shims to be used with Comfort, Vertical ST, and Vertical FT bindings. They interlock with the Classic shims.
Radical 1.0 Shims x2 - Pair well with Dynafit Radical ST and FT bindings.
Rotation Shims x2 - Compatible with both Rotation and Radical ST 2.0 bindings.
Radical FT 2.0 Shims x2 - Yep, these work with Radical FT 2.0 bindings.
G3 ION Shims x2 - Compatible with G3 ION bindings. RIP.
Xenic Shims x2 - Made for the Fritschi Xenic bindings. Your quads will say thank you.
Vipec / Tecton Shims x2 - Compatible with Vipec and Tecton bindings. Please note some shims will come undrilled.
Kingpin Shims x2 - Works for Marker Kingpin, Alpinist, and Cruise bindings.
ATK Raider Shims x2 - Works with ATK Raider 10/12 and Freeraider 14/16 bindings. Not compatible with C-Raider or newer Raider Evo models.
ATK C-Raider Shims x2 - Purpose made for C-Raider bindings and their longer striker plate.
ATK Raider Universal Shims x2 - Shims that pair with older Raider models. Please note these are not compatible with Raider Evo or C-Raider models.
ATK Modern x2 - Shims that pair with Raider Evo, RT Evo (>24/25), Haute Route Plus (>24/25), Crest (>24/25), and Raider SL models.
Backland / MTN Shims x2 - Perfect for your Atomic Backland, Salomon MTN bindings, or Armada Tracer Tour bindings.
18mm Pozi Screw - If you add some shims, you're going to need longer screws. These are alpine screws with a large head that works well with Plum bindings.
19mm Torx Screw - These are good for shimming lots of toes with 6.4mm shims. Small Torx head works especially well with Dynafit bindings. Find the screws here.
21.5mm Pozi Screw - Another alpine-style, large-head screw that works best with G3 ION and Plum models.
23.5mm Pozi Screw - Perfect for 4.7mm shims under Radical 1.0 & Vertical toes that already have baseplates. Medium size head.
28mm Pozi Screw - These are for raising the Radical ST or Vertical ST toes past 4.7mm, amongst other uses. Watch your depth, you may need to grind 'em down.
Metric conversions: 3.2mm = 1/8". 4.7mm = 3/16". 6.4mm = 1/4"
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Questions & Reviews
11/25/2019
11/26/2019
Hey Steve! Oof, we feel your pain! The Radical FT is running a hefty +15mm binding delta, so you could safely start with the 6.4mm shim to bring the delta down to a more manageable +8.6mm. For screws, you'll need Torx-head screws that are longer than the 19mm Torx typically used on the Rad FT toe piece.
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11/18/2019
Would like some shims for my Dynafit Speed turns (2.0) and am curious which size and screws I should be ordering. Thank you!
11/19/2019
Erica, you would get one of the Classic shims. With the 6.4 shim get the 19mm Torx Screws.
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10/25/2019
Does any of the shims fit a ATK Freeraider 14?
10/26/2019
Hi Ludd, unfortunately none of the B&D shims we stock are going to be wide enough for the mounting pattern on the Freeraider toe.
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6/7/2019
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Hideki 
Hi, I have an old Dynafit TLT bindings and my toe plate is thin that they do not match that toe piece. The toe piece front part is lifted. I need a thick plate or shim. What should I buy? web has pic
6/8/2019
Hey Hideki, just because things can change between different models and years, could you send me a quick photo at (help@skimo.co)? I’ll be able to give some better info that way.
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4/7/2019
Do any of the toe shims fit the Black Diamond Helio 200 bindings?
Thanks,
Mike
Thanks,
Mike
4/10/2019
Hi Mike, yes the Classic shims will work. You could also get the Kreuzspitze toe shift plates for some additional functionality (ability to move the toes).
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4/1/2019
Hi,
I have Salomon MTN 95 Explore (177cm), Radical ST and Salomon MTN Lab (sole length 321mm), I am 183cm/6'0'. As soon as the surface gets bumby/funny I immediately find myself in the back seat with little or no control. Considering trying shims, but unsure about the thickness. Do you have any recommandation?
Regards
I have Salomon MTN 95 Explore (177cm), Radical ST and Salomon MTN Lab (sole length 321mm), I am 183cm/6'0'. As soon as the surface gets bumby/funny I immediately find myself in the back seat with little or no control. Considering trying shims, but unsure about the thickness. Do you have any recommandation?
Regards
4/4/2019
Erik- I would just go for the 4.7mm shim with that binding. The other idea is try a spoiler in the back of the boot.
4/8/2019
Thanks. I'd tried som self made spoilers, and it does help some. Do you sell spoilers?
Also, do you stock the 23.5mm Pozi Screw for mounting the 4,7mm shims under the toe piece+baseplate?
Also, do you stock the 23.5mm Pozi Screw for mounting the 4,7mm shims under the toe piece+baseplate?
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2/19/2019
Just want to clarify which screws for Radical ST 2.0 for 4.7mm shims and then separately, which ones for the 6.4mm shims?
Thanks
Thanks
2/20/2019
Hi Cliff, ideally you want 20mm screws for the former case and 22mm for the latter.
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1/31/2019
Hi,
Looking at a 6.4mm shim for a vipec. What screw length should I get? I would expect a 23.5mm screw length but I dont see that as an option.
Thanks
Looking at a 6.4mm shim for a vipec. What screw length should I get? I would expect a 23.5mm screw length but I dont see that as an option.
Thanks
2/7/2019
Hey Joe,
You need a 25mm pan head screw which we do have in stock but is not on the website. So you will have to call us @ 801-942-9084 and we can take the order from there.
Hope this helps. Thanks
Matt
You need a 25mm pan head screw which we do have in stock but is not on the website. So you will have to call us @ 801-942-9084 and we can take the order from there.
Hope this helps. Thanks
Matt
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11/5/2018
Rad 1.0 with a 3.2mm toe shim would be what screw length?
Cheers,
Cheers,
11/5/2018
Hey Michael! It'll be about a 21.2mm screw length if you're mounting the toe and plastic baseplate on top of the shim. The 21.5mm will likely be okay in this instance if that's the case. If you are mounting the toe directly to the shim without the plastic baseplate then it'll be about a 15.7mm long screw, in which case you'd need to grind the 18mm screw down a few millimeters.
11/7/2018
Do you mean the 21.5mm pozi screw, which I am all for. Not a fan of torx heads. I guess while I am at it, do you have pozi screws that would work on Rad 1.0 heel pieces? to get rid of all the torx heads?
Thanks again,
Mike
Thanks again,
Mike
11/8/2018
Hey Mike! Yup, the 21.5mm Pozi screw should be the one! Dynafit uses some very difficult to source hardware to mount their bindings and because of that I don't think we have any Pozi pan-heads for the heels unfortunately. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, we have run into that issue many times. There is more flexibility with head choice if you want to mount the heel into inserts like Binding Freedom or Quiver Killer but that comes with its own set of benefits/drawbacks.
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10/31/2018
I have purchased these before but now seem a little confused. Have new speed turns on the way and under the impression I should get the 6.4 classic shim. But I don’t see that as an option in the pull down menu. Any help would be great. You guys rock.
11/1/2018
Hey Tom! Dang, it looks like we're sold out of the Classic 6.4 for the time being. That being said, you're in luck because there's still an option. The Speed Turn 2.0 uses a variation of the Radical Toe, so the Radical 1.0 shim will work just the same in this instance. As long as the binding you got is the newer Speed Turn 2.0 and not the older original Speed Turn with the 5-hole mounting pattern on the toe then the Radical 1.0 shim will work for you. If it's a 6.4mm shim then you'll likely need the 19mm Torx screws in order to mount them to the ski. Let me know if that cleared things up.
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10/31/2018
Hello, I am looking to get a pair of the 6.4mm shins for a Radical FT2.0. I am mounting with Binding Freedom insterts. Do you have the appropriate screw size to include in the order?
Thanks!
Thanks!
11/1/2018
Hey Erik, you'll need 20mm length flat head M5 stainless bolts. Because it'll be a custom order, shoot me a quick email at "help@skimo.co" and we'll get you taken care of!
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5/6/2018
nate
(used product a few times)
Bought the 6.4 mm shims for the dynafit radical 2.0 st binding and the 23.5 mm torx screws.
The shims were a perfect fit right out the box. The 23.5 mm screws were a nearly a perfect fit and required no modifications. I roughed the surface of the binding, ski, and both sides of the shim, and used slow cure epoxy between the ski, binding, shim, and in the screw holes.
It has held up for two long ski days and the ramp angle is noticably better. I no longer feel like I'm in high heels after stepping into the skis, and it is so much easier to skate uphill. Uphill skinning seems unchanged.
I did counter sink the holes on both sides of the binding with a drill and slightly larger drill bit. Since the radical binding has a slight welt under each screw hole, and the screw holes in the ski were slightly raised as well. It probably wasn't necessary but it made it easier to line everything up while screwing it in.
I highly recommend this shim with the 23.5 mm screws for the radical 2 binding!
The shims were a perfect fit right out the box. The 23.5 mm screws were a nearly a perfect fit and required no modifications. I roughed the surface of the binding, ski, and both sides of the shim, and used slow cure epoxy between the ski, binding, shim, and in the screw holes.
It has held up for two long ski days and the ramp angle is noticably better. I no longer feel like I'm in high heels after stepping into the skis, and it is so much easier to skate uphill. Uphill skinning seems unchanged.
I did counter sink the holes on both sides of the binding with a drill and slightly larger drill bit. Since the radical binding has a slight welt under each screw hole, and the screw holes in the ski were slightly raised as well. It probably wasn't necessary but it made it easier to line everything up while screwing it in.
I highly recommend this shim with the 23.5 mm screws for the radical 2 binding!
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4/3/2018
Which toe shins are recommended for dynafit speed turn 2.0?
Thanks GP
Thanks GP
4/4/2018
Hi Gordon, the Speed Turn 2.0 toes are compatible with the Classic Shims.
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2/25/2018
I wanted to compare the relative weights of your shims with you B&D shift plates. I found the weights listed for your shift plates but, alas, no mention is made of the weights of your various shims. I assume the shims are lighter but there is no mention of how much lighter. Also, what material are your shims manufactured from. I looked all over but couldn't find mention of this.
2/26/2018
Hey Mmullen! Not sure if it changes things or not, but these shims are made by B&D. Not sure exactly what kind of plastic these are made of, but they're sturdy. Weights vary a lot, but I weighed the most common shim we sell, the 6.4mm Classic, and they are about 30g per side.
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2/25/2018
Hi, for the Dynafit 2011 TLT Vertical FT12, what model of shim should I purchase, and what corresponding screw size for the 6.4mm? Thanks!
2/25/2018
Hey Grayson! For the Vertical FT you'll need the Classic 6.4mm as well as the 6.4mm Classic Extensions to support the baseplate so it's not hanging out in space collecting snow. The screws you're shooting for are the 28mm screws, but they need a bit of modification (to account for extra length). Unfortunately the Vertical FT has an interesting screw length and when you shim it 6.4mm you'll need something in the realm of 25mm.
Another easier, but less awesome solution is to get the 4.7mm version shim and the 23.5mm screws that require no grinding!
Another easier, but less awesome solution is to get the 4.7mm version shim and the 23.5mm screws that require no grinding!
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2/5/2018
I have Dynafit Vertical ST bindings, and want to add the low (4.7mm) toe shims. Just wanted to doublecheck on the screw length: (1) 23.5mm screws, right? (2) your website says "medium" pozi screw heads for the 23.5mm screws that you stock -- is that the same size head as what comes on the Vertical ST, or will I have to grind down the screw heads? Thanks!
2/5/2018
Hi Karl, As long as you are using the original toe plates along with the shims you are adding, the 23.5mm screw size should be correct. The heads of these screws should work fine with your bindings without need for grinding. As always, double and triple check the screw length to ensure that it's depth will be correct for your ski.
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2/4/2018
I have a pair of the Dynafit Rotation 10 bindings and a 280mm boot length- which shim is recommended? The same one that would fit the Radical ST?
2/4/2018
Hi Trickytiger, you're going to want the Radical ST 2.0 toe shims for those.
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2/2/2018
Can you advise on what shim plate to purchase for the Speed Radical toe piece? Thanks
2/2/2018
Hi Jeff, for the Speed Radical toe you will want to purchase the Classic Shims.
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1/6/2018
Hi
Kingpin shims sold out?
What type/length of screws for the different shims?
Thanks,
sbf
Kingpin shims sold out?
What type/length of screws for the different shims?
Thanks,
sbf
1/6/2018
Hey sbf! Kingpin shims are indeed sold out, however we place refill orders pretty regularly so if you're interested in getting a pair let me know and I'll see what we can do! Screw length is a pretty straightforward topic but depends on exactly which shim you end up with! One easy way to solve the dilemma is to measure the length of the standard mounting screws you have and then add the thickness of the shim to that length!
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12/31/2017
Hi,
I have a pair of Radical FT 1.0 and Dynafit Beast boots (320mm sole lenght), and I am wondering about purchasing either 4,7mm or 6,4mm shims. What do you recommend? And what kind of screws goes with the two alternatives?
Thanks!
I have a pair of Radical FT 1.0 and Dynafit Beast boots (320mm sole lenght), and I am wondering about purchasing either 4,7mm or 6,4mm shims. What do you recommend? And what kind of screws goes with the two alternatives?
Thanks!
12/31/2017
Hey Gnorway! I think if you're gonna go with a shim to flatten out the ramp angle, you should go all the way and get a really thick shim to minimize the ramp angle! Just my thought on that, but the 4.7mm will work just fine as well! As for screws, the 6.4mm shim will need the 28mm screws (though you may need to grind them down a touch), whereas the 4.7mm shim will need the 23.5mm screws.
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