Bought the 6.4 mm shims for the dynafit radical 2.0 st binding and the 23.5 mm torx screws.
The shims were a perfect fit right out the box. The 23.5 mm screws were a nearly a perfect fit and required no modifications. I roughed the surface of the binding, ski, and both sides of the shim, and used slow cure epoxy between the ski, binding, shim, and in the screw holes.
It has held up for two long ski days and the ramp angle is noticably better. I no longer feel like I'm in high heels after stepping into the skis, and it is so much easier to skate uphill. Uphill skinning seems unchanged.
I did counter sink the holes on both sides of the binding with a drill and slightly larger drill bit. Since the radical binding has a slight welt under each screw hole, and the screw holes in the ski were slightly raised as well. It probably wasn't necessary but it made it easier to line everything up while screwing it in.
I highly recommend this shim with the 23.5 mm screws for the radical 2 binding!
B&D Shims
Getting the right ramp angle on your bindings can make the difference between skiing on-point or in the backseat with tired quads. B&D makes shims for almost every occasion. Choose a shim based on your binding and desired pin height delta, which can take some experimentation. Shorter boot sole lengths are more affected by delta because they end up with a higher ramp angle, thus look for thicker shims. Shorter skis also may benefit from thicker shims. For long skis and long feet, go thin to win. Some folks who shim their toes also increase the height of their heel risers to compensate. Do this with B&D Nubbins.
►ORDERING NOTE: All shims are sold in PAIRS, while the screws are priced INDIVIDUALLY.
Classic Shims x2 - Drilled to match both Classic and Radical hole patterns.
Classic Extensions x2 - Also known as “tips & tails,” these allow the Classic shims to be used with Comfort, Vertical ST, and Vertical FT bindings. They interlock with the Classic shims.
Radical 1.0 Shims x2 - Pair well with Dynafit Radical ST and FT bindings.
Rotation Shims x2 - Compatible with both Rotation and Radical ST 2.0 bindings.
Radical FT 2.0 Shims x2 - Yep, these work with Radical FT 2.0 bindings.
G3 ION Shims x2 - Compatible with G3 ION bindings. RIP.
Xenic Shims x2 - Made for the Fritschi Xenic bindings. Your quads will say thank you.
Vipec / Tecton Shims x2 - Compatible with Vipec and Tecton bindings. Please note some shims will come undrilled.
Kingpin Shims x2 - Works for Marker Kingpin, Alpinist, and Cruise bindings.
ATK Raider Shims x2 - Works with ATK Raider 10/12 and Freeraider 14/16 bindings. Not compatible with C-Raider or newer Raider Evo models.
ATK C-Raider Shims x2 - Purpose made for C-Raider bindings and their longer striker plate.
ATK Raider Universal Shims x2 - Shims that pair with older Raider models. Please note these are not compatible with Raider Evo or C-Raider models.
ATK Modern Shims x2 - Shims that pair with Raider Evo, RT Evo (>24/25), Haute Route Plus (>24/25), Crest (>24/25), and Raider SL models.
Backland / MTN Shims x2 - Perfect for your Atomic Backland, Salomon MTN bindings, or Armada Tracer Tour bindings.
18mm Pozi Screw - If you add some shims, you're going to need longer screws. These are alpine screws with a large head that works well with Plum bindings.
19mm Torx Screw - These are good for shimming lots of toes with 6.4mm shims. Small Torx head works especially well with Dynafit bindings. Find the screws here.
21.5mm Pozi Screw - Another alpine-style, large-head screw that works best with G3 ION and Plum models.
23.5mm Pozi Screw - Perfect for 4.7mm shims under Radical 1.0 & Vertical toes that already have baseplates. Medium size head.
28mm Pozi Screw - These are for raising the Radical ST or Vertical ST toes past 4.7mm, amongst other uses. Watch your depth, you may need to grind 'em down.
Metric conversions: 3.2mm = 1/8". 4.7mm = 3/16". 6.4mm = 1/4"
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Questions & Reviews
5/6/2018
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4/3/2018
Which toe shins are recommended for dynafit speed turn 2.0?
Thanks GP
Thanks GP
4/4/2018
Hi Gordon, the Speed Turn 2.0 toes are compatible with the Classic Shims.
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2/25/2018
I wanted to compare the relative weights of your shims with you B&D shift plates. I found the weights listed for your shift plates but, alas, no mention is made of the weights of your various shims. I assume the shims are lighter but there is no mention of how much lighter. Also, what material are your shims manufactured from. I looked all over but couldn't find mention of this.
2/26/2018
Hey Mmullen! Not sure if it changes things or not, but these shims are made by B&D. Not sure exactly what kind of plastic these are made of, but they're sturdy. Weights vary a lot, but I weighed the most common shim we sell, the 6.4mm Classic, and they are about 30g per side.
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2/25/2018
Hi, for the Dynafit 2011 TLT Vertical FT12, what model of shim should I purchase, and what corresponding screw size for the 6.4mm? Thanks!
2/25/2018
Hey Grayson! For the Vertical FT you'll need the Classic 6.4mm as well as the 6.4mm Classic Extensions to support the baseplate so it's not hanging out in space collecting snow. The screws you're shooting for are the 28mm screws, but they need a bit of modification (to account for extra length). Unfortunately the Vertical FT has an interesting screw length and when you shim it 6.4mm you'll need something in the realm of 25mm.
Another easier, but less awesome solution is to get the 4.7mm version shim and the 23.5mm screws that require no grinding!
Another easier, but less awesome solution is to get the 4.7mm version shim and the 23.5mm screws that require no grinding!
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2/5/2018
I have Dynafit Vertical ST bindings, and want to add the low (4.7mm) toe shims. Just wanted to doublecheck on the screw length: (1) 23.5mm screws, right? (2) your website says "medium" pozi screw heads for the 23.5mm screws that you stock -- is that the same size head as what comes on the Vertical ST, or will I have to grind down the screw heads? Thanks!
2/5/2018
Hi Karl, As long as you are using the original toe plates along with the shims you are adding, the 23.5mm screw size should be correct. The heads of these screws should work fine with your bindings without need for grinding. As always, double and triple check the screw length to ensure that it's depth will be correct for your ski.
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2/4/2018
I have a pair of the Dynafit Rotation 10 bindings and a 280mm boot length- which shim is recommended? The same one that would fit the Radical ST?
2/4/2018
Hi Trickytiger, you're going to want the Radical ST 2.0 toe shims for those.
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2/2/2018
Can you advise on what shim plate to purchase for the Speed Radical toe piece? Thanks
2/2/2018
Hi Jeff, for the Speed Radical toe you will want to purchase the Classic Shims.
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1/6/2018
Hi
Kingpin shims sold out?
What type/length of screws for the different shims?
Thanks,
sbf
Kingpin shims sold out?
What type/length of screws for the different shims?
Thanks,
sbf
1/6/2018
Hey sbf! Kingpin shims are indeed sold out, however we place refill orders pretty regularly so if you're interested in getting a pair let me know and I'll see what we can do! Screw length is a pretty straightforward topic but depends on exactly which shim you end up with! One easy way to solve the dilemma is to measure the length of the standard mounting screws you have and then add the thickness of the shim to that length!
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12/31/2017
Hi,
I have a pair of Radical FT 1.0 and Dynafit Beast boots (320mm sole lenght), and I am wondering about purchasing either 4,7mm or 6,4mm shims. What do you recommend? And what kind of screws goes with the two alternatives?
Thanks!
I have a pair of Radical FT 1.0 and Dynafit Beast boots (320mm sole lenght), and I am wondering about purchasing either 4,7mm or 6,4mm shims. What do you recommend? And what kind of screws goes with the two alternatives?
Thanks!
12/31/2017
Hey Gnorway! I think if you're gonna go with a shim to flatten out the ramp angle, you should go all the way and get a really thick shim to minimize the ramp angle! Just my thought on that, but the 4.7mm will work just fine as well! As for screws, the 6.4mm shim will need the 28mm screws (though you may need to grind them down a touch), whereas the 4.7mm shim will need the 23.5mm screws.
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12/28/2017
I just got a pair of Fischer My Travers size 24.5 ski boots. I took them out today using my old skis with old Dynafit TLT Vertical ST bindings. The forward lean was extremely uncomfortable. My question is: I will ultimately be using these boots with my new Atomic Backland bindings and I was wondering if I will need a shim under the toe to reduce this forward lean or do you think this binding will have enough of ramp angle backwards (compared to the Vertical ST) to reduce the lean? Do you even have a shim that will fit on the Backland? I will also try compacting the thick Intuition liners in the calf area to help.
Thanks,
Linda
Thanks,
Linda
12/28/2017
Hi Linda, there is much less ramp in the Backland (details here). You should be fine without a shim. B&D has not yet made one specific to the Backland either.
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12/15/2017
I am buying the BD Classic 6.4MM for my Plumes. They are currently mounted on my BD Judge. Is the screw size that comes in package enough? Just want to make sure... Thanks.
12/15/2017
Hi Gem, the shims do not come with screws since every situation is different. In this case you'll need screws around 21mm. Note you can also shim the the Plum Guides with rental toe plates that are thicker and add some function.
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12/11/2017
Hi there, I'm looking at purchasing a 6.4mm shim to put under a Dynafit Speed Radical binding toe piece that's currently mounted on quiver killer inserts. Can you tell me what screws I would need in order to make this happen? Thanks!
Eric
Eric
12/11/2017
Hey Eric, thanks for reaching out! That'd be a 16mm Flat Head screw with an M5 thread! Let me know if you'd like to proceed and I can probably get you set up with an order!
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11/13/2017
Will the classic shim work with the Fritschi Evo toe? Is an extension required?
11/13/2017
Hi Duretteski, unfortunately the classic shim doesn't work with the Vipec. Rumor has it there is a Vipec shim coming available though.
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10/6/2017
Hello,
I have a pair of Plum Guide bindings with a Scarpa 27.5 Maestral boots. I want a neutral (flat) or nearly neutral (flat) ramp angel.
Here are my questions:
1. Will the 6.4mm Classic shim get me a neutral (flat) ramp angle (with 19mm screws)? If not, what should I stack on top of it?
2. What screw should I order if I stack on top of the 6.4mm?
3. Will the crampons work with a Classic 6.4mm shim? Will they work if I need to stack higher?
Thanks very much! I can't believe it me took this long to figure out why I disliked skiing my AT set-up vs my on area set-up.
Cheers,
Jon
I have a pair of Plum Guide bindings with a Scarpa 27.5 Maestral boots. I want a neutral (flat) or nearly neutral (flat) ramp angel.
Here are my questions:
1. Will the 6.4mm Classic shim get me a neutral (flat) ramp angle (with 19mm screws)? If not, what should I stack on top of it?
2. What screw should I order if I stack on top of the 6.4mm?
3. Will the crampons work with a Classic 6.4mm shim? Will they work if I need to stack higher?
Thanks very much! I can't believe it me took this long to figure out why I disliked skiing my AT set-up vs my on area set-up.
Cheers,
Jon
10/6/2017
Hi Jon,
The 6.4mm Classic shims will get you closer but not quite flat. You'll certainly feel the difference. You'll need 21.5mm screws for those. We generally advise against stacking multiple plates on top of each other. You could order the Plum Guide Rental toe plate to get even closer as they are 9.5mm thick. Crampons work with the shims, and would also work if you're adjusted near the rear of the rental plates.
The 6.4mm Classic shims will get you closer but not quite flat. You'll certainly feel the difference. You'll need 21.5mm screws for those. We generally advise against stacking multiple plates on top of each other. You could order the Plum Guide Rental toe plate to get even closer as they are 9.5mm thick. Crampons work with the shims, and would also work if you're adjusted near the rear of the rental plates.
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3/14/2017
I bought some 6.4mm shims for Dynafit Radical ST 2.0s, which I currently have mounted with Binding Freedom inserts. Any ideas for where to get longer screws for those? Doesn't look like BF makes 20mm Pozi Smallhead screws, which is what I would need (I think) if I bought from them.
3/14/2017
Hey Toddball, any 20mm x M5 machine screw should do, though you will have to shrink the head of the screw in order to make this work (that is the reason the cost of the Radical 2.0 fastener kits are more expensive). I do have a few 20mm flat head Torx screws that I can sell you but it would still involve shrinking the diameter of the heads. Let me know what works for you, I can get that organized if you'd like.
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3/8/2017
can you please advise which shim to lift a speed turn 2.0 toe up, and which screws? mounting to a Hannibal 94. I'm thinking 4.7mm "classic" is the one i want. what size screws do I need to accommodate for the additional ~5mm of shim? do the screws need to be filed down?
3/8/2017
Hi Rich, yes you need the Classic shims. The thickness can be a personal preference, but easiest is the 6.4mm which uses the 19mm screws as is. Otherwise you need to shorten some screws.
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2/28/2017
Do you have any shims that fit G3 IONs? Since the screw pattern is different from Dynafit bindings, I assume those shims won't work. Would it be possible to drill extra holes in the B&D Radical Shims to fit the ION screws? If so, which model will be best?
3/1/2017
Hi Cim,
The official answer is no, we do not have any shims for the G3 Ion.
I did take the time to size up some of the B&D shims to see if your idea of drilling extra holes would work. It appears that the Radical FT/ST shim could work, but I can't say for how long as it is not intended to be used with that binding. Drilling extra holes in the shim may cause it to crack or fail in some other manner. If you decide to try it, keep in mind that you'll need to replace the screws with longer ones as well.
The official answer is no, we do not have any shims for the G3 Ion.
I did take the time to size up some of the B&D shims to see if your idea of drilling extra holes would work. It appears that the Radical FT/ST shim could work, but I can't say for how long as it is not intended to be used with that binding. Drilling extra holes in the shim may cause it to crack or fail in some other manner. If you decide to try it, keep in mind that you'll need to replace the screws with longer ones as well.
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2/11/2017
What size screws would I need to use the 3.2 mm classic shim on some Speed Radiacals?
Thanks,
Bob
Thanks,
Bob
2/11/2017
Hi Bob, depends on your ski of course, but likely around 16mm.
2/11/2017
Hmm. Hard to find a 16mm. I suppose I could grind the 19mm's down. Maybe I'll try the 4.7mm shims. Then there will be less to shorten.
What size are the stock screws on the Speed Rad toes? I'd measure some but I'm not sure how they are measured.
What size are the stock screws on the Speed Rad toes? I'd measure some but I'm not sure how they are measured.
2/13/2017
Hi Robert, they are ~12.5mm. Flat heads are measured full length, end to end. The 6.4s would likely obviate shortening.
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2/11/2017
Hi, I have been skiing some of the tlt comforts for about 10 years and just bought a pair of speed radicals to go on some new skis. I have loved my old dynafits so I'm looking for whichever shim will feel the same as my old comforts. I have a 25 shell which means more ramp but my current Dynafits are unmodified and I have been happy with them. I don't really plan on using these skins inbounds because of the lack of break and have other skis for in bounds riding
2/11/2017
Hi Dan, you could measure your pins and compare them with these to calculate the difference. Otherwise, just get the 6.4s!
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1/20/2017
19mm screws for the Radical ST 2.0 3mm shim?
1/20/2017
Hi Bill, yes that would be a good option.
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