B&D Shims
Getting the right ramp angle on your bindings can make the difference between skiing on-point or in the backseat with tired quads. B&D makes shims for almost every occasion. Choose a shim based on your binding and desired pin height delta, which can take some experimentation. Shorter boot sole lengths are more affected by delta because they end up with a higher ramp angle, thus look for thicker shims. Shorter skis also may benefit from thicker shims. For long skis and long feet, go thin to win. Some folks who shim their toes also increase the height of their heel risers to compensate. Do this with B&D Nubbins.
►ORDERING NOTE: All shims are sold in PAIRS, while the screws are priced INDIVIDUALLY.
Classic Shims x2 - Drilled to match both Classic and Radical hole patterns.
Classic Extensions x2 - Also known as “tips & tails,” these allow the Classic shims to be used with Comfort, Vertical ST, and Vertical FT bindings. They interlock with the Classic shims.
Radical 1.0 Shims x2 - Pair well with Dynafit Radical ST and FT bindings.
Rotation Shims x2 - Compatible with both Rotation and Radical ST 2.0 bindings.
Radical FT 2.0 Shims x2 - Yep, these work with Radical FT 2.0 bindings.
G3 ION Shims x2 - Compatible with G3 ION bindings. RIP.
Xenic Shims x2 - Made for the Fritschi Xenic bindings. Your quads will say thank you.
Vipec / Tecton Shims x2 - Compatible with Vipec and Tecton bindings. Please note some shims will come undrilled.
Kingpin Shims x2 - Works for Marker Kingpin, Alpinist, and Cruise bindings.
ATK Raider Shims x2 - Works with ATK Raider 10/12 and Freeraider 14/16 bindings. Not compatible with C-Raider or newer Raider Evo models.
ATK C-Raider Shims x2 - Purpose made for C-Raider bindings and their longer striker plate.
ATK Raider Universal Shims x2 - Shims that pair with older Raider models. Please note these are not compatible with Raider Evo or C-Raider models.
ATK Modern Shims x2 - Shims that pair with Raider Evo, RT Evo (>24/25), Haute Route Plus (>24/25), Crest (>24/25), and Raider SL models.
Backland / MTN Shims x2 - Perfect for your Atomic Backland, Salomon MTN bindings, or Armada Tracer Tour bindings.
18mm Pozi Screw - If you add some shims, you're going to need longer screws. These are alpine screws with a large head that works well with Plum bindings.
19mm Torx Screw - These are good for shimming lots of toes with 6.4mm shims. Small Torx head works especially well with Dynafit bindings. Find the screws here.
21.5mm Pozi Screw - Another alpine-style, large-head screw that works best with G3 ION and Plum models.
23.5mm Pozi Screw - Perfect for 4.7mm shims under Radical 1.0 & Vertical toes that already have baseplates. Medium size head.
28mm Pozi Screw - These are for raising the Radical ST or Vertical ST toes past 4.7mm, amongst other uses. Watch your depth, you may need to grind 'em down.
Metric conversions: 3.2mm = 1/8". 4.7mm = 3/16". 6.4mm = 1/4"
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Questions & Reviews
1/13/2024
I just got a pair of C-Raider 10s and my plan for them is to 1) remove brakes and throw in a brake pad cover, 2) Freeride spacers, 3) toe shims since I have small feets (BSL 283). What size shim would you recommend based on how I want to mod these bindings?
1/13/2024
Hi Claire,
Just depends on what kind of delta you like! If you're not sure, the 4.7mm shim (middle size) will bring you to around a 5mm delta, which is plenty flat for most people. Of course, the 6.4mm option will get you the flattest. If you feel like the delta is way too high/if you have boots that you feel have too much forward lean, then the 6.4 might be appropriate.
Brakeless + spacers might be the coolest way to set up a Raider :)
Just depends on what kind of delta you like! If you're not sure, the 4.7mm shim (middle size) will bring you to around a 5mm delta, which is plenty flat for most people. Of course, the 6.4mm option will get you the flattest. If you feel like the delta is way too high/if you have boots that you feel have too much forward lean, then the 6.4 might be appropriate.
Brakeless + spacers might be the coolest way to set up a Raider :)
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1/8/2024
Hello,
What shim and screws would I need to shim the toe of Dynafit Speed Turn bindings? Thanks in advance!
What shim and screws would I need to shim the toe of Dynafit Speed Turn bindings? Thanks in advance!
1/8/2024
Hi Elizabeth,
The B&D Classic shims on this listing will work for the Speed Turn. Thicker shims will neutralize the delta more than thinner shims. So if you want them as flat as possible, order the 6.4mm thickness. For the 6.4mm shims, you will want the 19mm torx screws listed here. .
The B&D Classic shims on this listing will work for the Speed Turn. Thicker shims will neutralize the delta more than thinner shims. So if you want them as flat as possible, order the 6.4mm thickness. For the 6.4mm shims, you will want the 19mm torx screws listed here. .
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1/7/2024
Howdy!
What shim/screw combo would you recommend for Dynafit Speed Radicals? I can't seem to figure out which style would work best from the info listed. Also, I'm in a 27.5 boot, and I know it depends quite a bit on the skier and preference, but which thickness would you suggest?
What shim/screw combo would you recommend for Dynafit Speed Radicals? I can't seem to figure out which style would work best from the info listed. Also, I'm in a 27.5 boot, and I know it depends quite a bit on the skier and preference, but which thickness would you suggest?
1/9/2024
Hi Björn, the Speed Radicals have a rather high delta out of the box, so you might as well go for the 6.4mm thickness. The Classic Shim has the correct hole pattern for that binding. You'll want some 19mm Dynafit Torx Screws to match.
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1/7/2024
Hello.
I am thinking of purchasing "ATK Raider Universal Shims, 6.4mm" for my ATK Raider 11 Evo.
If so, which type of screws will fit: Pozi Screw, Torx Screw, or Pan Head Screw?
Also, what length is suitable?
I am thinking of purchasing "ATK Raider Universal Shims, 6.4mm" for my ATK Raider 11 Evo.
If so, which type of screws will fit: Pozi Screw, Torx Screw, or Pan Head Screw?
Also, what length is suitable?
1/10/2024
Hi Ozzy! You'll want the 19mm Dynafit Torx Screws. Thanks!
1/13/2024
Hi Niko,
Thanks for sharing your screw recommendations!
And please tell me one more thing about Shims.
Compared to ATK's original Shims, those of B&D do not seem to be lightning. I believe that makes the weight difference between ATK and B&D Shims quite significant.
So, I am thinking of lightening the B&D shims. Of course I am willing to accept the risk of strength loss due to this.
Can you tell me if there are other risks besides the reduction in strength, such as performance impact on the run?
Thanks for sharing your screw recommendations!
And please tell me one more thing about Shims.
Compared to ATK's original Shims, those of B&D do not seem to be lightning. I believe that makes the weight difference between ATK and B&D Shims quite significant.
So, I am thinking of lightening the B&D shims. Of course I am willing to accept the risk of strength loss due to this.
Can you tell me if there are other risks besides the reduction in strength, such as performance impact on the run?
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12/20/2023
Want to shim some ATK C-Raider 12s.
Want to use the 4.7mm height.
There's some conflicting information in the comments/questions below. SkiMo seems to offer this exact shim now?
And what size screws will I need to purchase?
Unrelatedly - want to remove the brakes and use the replacement cover. Do you sell these too?
Really unrelatedly - Have some Atomic Backland Pures and thinking a stomp pad might be useful and a toe shim. Do you have these items as well??
Thanks much
Want to use the 4.7mm height.
There's some conflicting information in the comments/questions below. SkiMo seems to offer this exact shim now?
And what size screws will I need to purchase?
Unrelatedly - want to remove the brakes and use the replacement cover. Do you sell these too?
Really unrelatedly - Have some Atomic Backland Pures and thinking a stomp pad might be useful and a toe shim. Do you have these items as well??
Thanks much
12/20/2023
Hi Kip,
We do have the exact shim. You'll want 21mm panhead screws.
For the brake cover, it's under ATK Binding Parts, called the "brake seat cover".
We do have toe shims for the Backland Pure, called "Backland/MTN shims" above. We don't have stomp pads.
We do have the exact shim. You'll want 21mm panhead screws.
For the brake cover, it's under ATK Binding Parts, called the "brake seat cover".
We do have toe shims for the Backland Pure, called "Backland/MTN shims" above. We don't have stomp pads.
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12/4/2023
Will the Radical 1.0 shims (either/or the B+D shim or the stock Radical shim) work with the toe piece for the Backlight?
12/5/2023
Hi Lee, the Radical ST/FT 1.0 shims do work with the Blacklight toe. Note the footprint of the Blacklight toe is smaller than those bindings, so there is some extra shim sitting around the binding. But it works!
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9/25/2023
Hi, you have allready helped me out once with a C-Raider shim which worked out great.
I am just wondering if there are shims og plates available to even out the delta on Salomon shifts og Marker duke pt’s?
I dont understand why they would give a high delta on an alpine like binding?
I am just wondering if there are shims og plates available to even out the delta on Salomon shifts og Marker duke pt’s?
I dont understand why they would give a high delta on an alpine like binding?
9/25/2023
Harald,
At the moment we don't have any way to shim a Shift or Duke PT.
At the moment we don't have any way to shim a Shift or Duke PT.
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5/23/2023
Hi!
Tried to read and answer my own question, but couldn’t find it. I want to shim the front of my Salomon MTNs. I wear Atomic Ultra Hawx te 120 boots. Thinking the 6.4 because I tend to wear a zero drop shoe, and I’d like to get my heels down. I very often feel like I’m in the back seat while skiing! Which screws do I need? Also, I’m open to being advised toward a smaller shim…
Tried to read and answer my own question, but couldn’t find it. I want to shim the front of my Salomon MTNs. I wear Atomic Ultra Hawx te 120 boots. Thinking the 6.4 because I tend to wear a zero drop shoe, and I’d like to get my heels down. I very often feel like I’m in the back seat while skiing! Which screws do I need? Also, I’m open to being advised toward a smaller shim…
5/24/2023
Hi Jessie
Shimming the toepiece is actually going to put you further in the back seat (because you'll have to compensate more to keep your weight forward). Instead, I would recommend increasing the forward lean on your boot to help pitch your weight forward and out of the back seat.
In any case, if you get the 6.4 shims I'd recommend ordering the 19mm Torx screws on our Dynafit Screws page for the best fit.
Shimming the toepiece is actually going to put you further in the back seat (because you'll have to compensate more to keep your weight forward). Instead, I would recommend increasing the forward lean on your boot to help pitch your weight forward and out of the back seat.
In any case, if you get the 6.4 shims I'd recommend ordering the 19mm Torx screws on our Dynafit Screws page for the best fit.
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5/2/2023
Hi, looking to get the 4.7mm shims for my ATK Crest 10s, which screws should I get?
5/2/2023
Seth, You would need a 19mm screw.
Find it here
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3/26/2023
Hi Skimo, trying to add a toe shim for atk rt10 evo, was wondeirng will b&d Shims, 6.4mm compatible with the toe piece? And what set of screws do I need?
Thanks,
Wanhe
Thanks,
Wanhe
3/27/2023
Wanhe, the ATK RT10 Evo shares a hole pattern with the ATK Crest and race toes at 30x27. The Classic shims will work with these. And you will need the 21.5mm Pozi screws.
3/27/2023
Sweet. Sweet. Thank you Jeff:)
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3/23/2023
I need to shim my c-raiders. Is my only choice B&D shims (ie not a AL12) ? And if so what screw length do I need for a 4.7 shim?
3/23/2023
Hi David, you can use the AL12 Raider Shim with the C-Raider, but the AL12 has some plastic that sticks up at the front of the shim that you will need to grind down or cut off to make it work with the C-Raider toepiece. You'd also need to order screws as the screws that come with the AL12 are for the Raiders, not the C-Raider.
For screws for either shim, you'll want pan-head screws with a total length between 20mm and 21mm and a head diameter no greater than 9mm. Unfortunately all of our screws that are long enough have heads that are too wide to fit in the countersinks of the C-Raider toe, but you should be able to find something that will work at your local hardware store.
For screws for either shim, you'll want pan-head screws with a total length between 20mm and 21mm and a head diameter no greater than 9mm. Unfortunately all of our screws that are long enough have heads that are too wide to fit in the countersinks of the C-Raider toe, but you should be able to find something that will work at your local hardware store.
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3/19/2023
Will you be getting any more of the 6.4mm ATK Raider shims in stock any time soon? I am currently using the ATK made 4mm shims with my Raider toes, but still find the ramp excessive. Feels like I'm skiing while standing on toes.
Or, have you heard of anyone stacking a 3.2mm BD shim and a 4mm ATK shim to get the ramp down to a non-absurd level on these bindings? Thank you.
Or, have you heard of anyone stacking a 3.2mm BD shim and a 4mm ATK shim to get the ramp down to a non-absurd level on these bindings? Thank you.
3/20/2023
Hey Ben, in general, it's not a good idea to stack shims. We are hopeful to receive more of these in the near future! If you'd like to be notified when they come in, please reach out to help@skimo.co.
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3/5/2023
Hi Skimo,
You've done mounts for me in past; I'm interested in buying Tecton bindings and setting up a couple skis with them, using inserts, and the 6.4 mm toe risers. I usually go with Binding Freedom, and per their site an unshimmed Tecton toe takes their 14mm lowhead screw. 14 + 6.4 = 20.4....They do sell 20mm lowheads: do you think this would be solid and provide adequate engagement, or would that 0.4mm difference prove an issue? Really appreciate the time you to take to answer all these queries. Best, Scott.
You've done mounts for me in past; I'm interested in buying Tecton bindings and setting up a couple skis with them, using inserts, and the 6.4 mm toe risers. I usually go with Binding Freedom, and per their site an unshimmed Tecton toe takes their 14mm lowhead screw. 14 + 6.4 = 20.4....They do sell 20mm lowheads: do you think this would be solid and provide adequate engagement, or would that 0.4mm difference prove an issue? Really appreciate the time you to take to answer all these queries. Best, Scott.
3/6/2023
Hi Scott,
The .4 difference is fine. The machine threads have a great grip.
The .4 difference is fine. The machine threads have a great grip.
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2/20/2023
I think I need the classic shim for a Dynafit Rotate 7. What size screw for a 3.2 mm plate?
2/20/2023
Hi Paul, for a Rotation 7 you want the Rotation / Radical ST 2.0 shims. Aim for 19mm with that thickness.
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1/31/2023
Given that I want the thick shims, which model work with the old Raider 12 2.0 (front brake)?
2/1/2023
Hi R C, the Raider 2.0 toe used a different mount pattern than either the current Raider or C-Raider. It's 30x27 vs. the 45x44 of the current Raider/Freeraider or 30/45x35 of the C-Raider. Neither ATK or B&D makes a shim with this whole pattern.
ATK does make a Toe Adjustment Plate (R13) that accommodates the 30x27 mount pattern. But this'll require drilling some new holes in the ski. The adjustment plate is 6.4mm thick, so that is within spec for you, too!
ATK does make a Toe Adjustment Plate (R13) that accommodates the 30x27 mount pattern. But this'll require drilling some new holes in the ski. The adjustment plate is 6.4mm thick, so that is within spec for you, too!
2/1/2023
38g per binding which seems like a lot. How janky is it to use the Dynafit shims which share a 30x27 hole pattern?
2/2/2023
Hi R C, the Classic shim has that pattern but it's more of an issue with support under the binding, the Front Raider would overhang. Nothing we stock would work for you, sorry!
2/28/2024
Hi Gabriel I & jbo, is this still accurate?
If I look at the "Hole Pattern Recognition" page, the pattern for ATK R12 (2019) is 45x44.
Anyway, I have the ATK Raider 2.0 from 2019 with the front brake, do any of the B&D shims work with this binding?
Thanks!
If I look at the "Hole Pattern Recognition" page, the pattern for ATK R12 (2019) is 45x44.
Anyway, I have the ATK Raider 2.0 from 2019 with the front brake, do any of the B&D shims work with this binding?
Thanks!
2/28/2024
Hi Tuomas, there is not much of an update here. With all the different Raider versions, it's best to send a photo of your toe to help@skimo.co and we will sort it out.
3/2/2024
Hi job, thanks, will do.
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12/22/2022
Where can I get screws for Vipec bindings? Haven't made up my mind on thickness of shim yet, either 4.7mm or 6.4mm.
12/22/2022
Hi Patrick,
For the 4.7mm, we do have a few 20.5mm Panhead screws. Reach out to us at help@skimo.co if you'd like to grab a few!
For the 6.4mm, you'll need a 22mm Panhead screw, which we don't have at the moment, unfortunately.
For the 4.7mm, we do have a few 20.5mm Panhead screws. Reach out to us at help@skimo.co if you'd like to grab a few!
For the 6.4mm, you'll need a 22mm Panhead screw, which we don't have at the moment, unfortunately.
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11/29/2022
What shim would work with the low tech race 2.0 toes?
11/29/2022
Hi bcvizina,
The Low Tech Race 2.0 has the Radical hole pattern in the toe (30x39), which means that a variety of shims will do the trick. The Classic would certainly work.
Keep in mind, the Low Tech Race 2.0 has a very flat binding delta out of the box, so shimming the toe will likely create a negative ramp angle if you have the binding fixed mounted.
The Low Tech Race 2.0 has the Radical hole pattern in the toe (30x39), which means that a variety of shims will do the trick. The Classic would certainly work.
Keep in mind, the Low Tech Race 2.0 has a very flat binding delta out of the box, so shimming the toe will likely create a negative ramp angle if you have the binding fixed mounted.
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11/22/2022
Question from
Keith Rollins 
Want to order a pair of 4.7mm shims for a Look HM 12 /Radical FT 2.0 what screw size do I need .
Thanks
Keith
Thanks
Keith
11/22/2022
Hi Keith,
You'll want the 21.5mm Pozi screw. It's on this page, just select it from the dropdown above.
You'll want the 21.5mm Pozi screw. It's on this page, just select it from the dropdown above.
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11/14/2022
I have a pair of 165 BD Helios with Dynafit ST Radical bindings and size 24 boots, so I can feel the difference in height between my heel and toe pretty significantly. What shims would work for my setup? And, this may be a silly question, but is it possible to add shims when the bindings are already mounted, or would adding shims be something that needs to be done when the skis are being mounted?
11/14/2022
Hi Claire,
If you are looking to reduce the delta in your Dynafit Radical ST bindings, I would start with the 4.7mm Radical 1.0 shim paired with the 23.5mm pozi screws. This will get you from 15mm to 10.3mm, which is a more reasonable delta.
The 6.4mm Radical 1.0 shims will be the most you can reduce delta, but you will need to source your own screws, or grind down the 28.0mm pozi screws we have listed about. You are aiming for 8.0mm of screw penetration into the ski.
You will need to remove your toe piece and add the shim underneath. If you would like more details, feel free to reach out to help@skimo.co!
If you are looking to reduce the delta in your Dynafit Radical ST bindings, I would start with the 4.7mm Radical 1.0 shim paired with the 23.5mm pozi screws. This will get you from 15mm to 10.3mm, which is a more reasonable delta.
The 6.4mm Radical 1.0 shims will be the most you can reduce delta, but you will need to source your own screws, or grind down the 28.0mm pozi screws we have listed about. You are aiming for 8.0mm of screw penetration into the ski.
You will need to remove your toe piece and add the shim underneath. If you would like more details, feel free to reach out to help@skimo.co!
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9/24/2022
Hello! I got a new pair of Dynafit radicals last year with a delta of +13. My resort bindings have +4 so I wanted to shim the toes as close to that as possible. My issue is Dynafit seems to have changed the branding for the 2021 model and I’m not sure which radical shims I need. Please help me out with what shims and screws to purchase. Thanks!
9/26/2022
Thanks for reaching out, Dawson. The shims for 21/22 bindings are also compatible with 22/23 bindings. If you have a Speed Radical, the Classic shim is the way to go. If you have a Radical ST, then the Radical 1.0 Shims are what you're after. If you have an older radical binding (unlikely) please send an email to help@skimo.co and we'll get it figured out!
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