Hi Skimo, trying to add a toe shim for atk rt10 evo, was wondeirng will b&d Shims, 6.4mm compatible with the toe piece? And what set of screws do I need?
Thanks,
Wanhe
B&D Shims
Getting the right ramp angle on your bindings can make the difference between skiing on-point or in the backseat with tired quads. B&D makes shims for almost every occasion. Choose a shim based on your binding and desired pin height delta, which can take some experimentation. Shorter boot sole lengths are more affected by delta because they end up with a higher ramp angle, thus look for thicker shims. Shorter skis also may benefit from thicker shims. For long skis and long feet, go thin to win. Some folks who shim their toes also increase the height of their heel risers to compensate. Do this with B&D Nubbins.
►ORDERING NOTE: All shims are sold in PAIRS, while the screws are priced INDIVIDUALLY.
Classic Shims x2 - Drilled to match both Classic and Radical hole patterns.
Classic Extensions x2 - Also known as “tips & tails,” these allow the Classic shims to be used with Comfort, Vertical ST, and Vertical FT bindings. They interlock with the Classic shims.
Radical 1.0 Shims x2 - Pair well with Dynafit Radical ST and FT bindings.
Rotation Shims x2 - Compatible with both Rotation and Radical ST 2.0 bindings.
Radical FT 2.0 Shims x2 - Yep, these work with Radical FT 2.0 bindings.
G3 ION Shims x2 - Compatible with G3 ION bindings. RIP.
Xenic Shims x2 - Made for the Fritschi Xenic bindings. Your quads will say thank you.
Vipec / Tecton Shims x2 - Compatible with Vipec and Tecton bindings. Please note some shims will come undrilled.
Kingpin Shims x2 - Works for Marker Kingpin, Alpinist, and Cruise bindings.
ATK Raider Shims x2 - Works with ATK Raider 10/12 and Freeraider 14/16 bindings. Not compatible with C-Raider or newer Raider Evo models.
ATK C-Raider Shims x2 - Purpose made for C-Raider bindings and their longer striker plate.
ATK Raider Universal Shims x2 - Shims that pair with older Raider models. Please note these are not compatible with Raider Evo or C-Raider models.
ATK Modern x2 - Shims that pair with Raider Evo, RT Evo (>24/25), Haute Route Plus (>24/25), Crest (>24/25), and Raider SL models.
Backland / MTN Shims x2 - Perfect for your Atomic Backland, Salomon MTN bindings, or Armada Tracer Tour bindings.
18mm Pozi Screw - If you add some shims, you're going to need longer screws. These are alpine screws with a large head that works well with Plum bindings.
19mm Torx Screw - These are good for shimming lots of toes with 6.4mm shims. Small Torx head works especially well with Dynafit bindings. Find the screws here.
21.5mm Pozi Screw - Another alpine-style, large-head screw that works best with G3 ION and Plum models.
23.5mm Pozi Screw - Perfect for 4.7mm shims under Radical 1.0 & Vertical toes that already have baseplates. Medium size head.
28mm Pozi Screw - These are for raising the Radical ST or Vertical ST toes past 4.7mm, amongst other uses. Watch your depth, you may need to grind 'em down.
Metric conversions: 3.2mm = 1/8". 4.7mm = 3/16". 6.4mm = 1/4"
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3/26/2023
3/27/2023
Wanhe, the ATK RT10 Evo shares a hole pattern with the ATK Crest and race toes at 30x27. The Classic shims will work with these. And you will need the 21.5mm Pozi screws.
3/27/2023
Sweet. Sweet. Thank you Jeff:)
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3/23/2023
I need to shim my c-raiders. Is my only choice B&D shims (ie not a AL12) ? And if so what screw length do I need for a 4.7 shim?
3/23/2023
Hi David, you can use the AL12 Raider Shim with the C-Raider, but the AL12 has some plastic that sticks up at the front of the shim that you will need to grind down or cut off to make it work with the C-Raider toepiece. You'd also need to order screws as the screws that come with the AL12 are for the Raiders, not the C-Raider.
For screws for either shim, you'll want pan-head screws with a total length between 20mm and 21mm and a head diameter no greater than 9mm. Unfortunately all of our screws that are long enough have heads that are too wide to fit in the countersinks of the C-Raider toe, but you should be able to find something that will work at your local hardware store.
For screws for either shim, you'll want pan-head screws with a total length between 20mm and 21mm and a head diameter no greater than 9mm. Unfortunately all of our screws that are long enough have heads that are too wide to fit in the countersinks of the C-Raider toe, but you should be able to find something that will work at your local hardware store.
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3/19/2023
Will you be getting any more of the 6.4mm ATK Raider shims in stock any time soon? I am currently using the ATK made 4mm shims with my Raider toes, but still find the ramp excessive. Feels like I'm skiing while standing on toes.
Or, have you heard of anyone stacking a 3.2mm BD shim and a 4mm ATK shim to get the ramp down to a non-absurd level on these bindings? Thank you.
Or, have you heard of anyone stacking a 3.2mm BD shim and a 4mm ATK shim to get the ramp down to a non-absurd level on these bindings? Thank you.
3/20/2023
Hey Ben, in general, it's not a good idea to stack shims. We are hopeful to receive more of these in the near future! If you'd like to be notified when they come in, please reach out to help@skimo.co.
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3/5/2023
Hi Skimo,
You've done mounts for me in past; I'm interested in buying Tecton bindings and setting up a couple skis with them, using inserts, and the 6.4 mm toe risers. I usually go with Binding Freedom, and per their site an unshimmed Tecton toe takes their 14mm lowhead screw. 14 + 6.4 = 20.4....They do sell 20mm lowheads: do you think this would be solid and provide adequate engagement, or would that 0.4mm difference prove an issue? Really appreciate the time you to take to answer all these queries. Best, Scott.
You've done mounts for me in past; I'm interested in buying Tecton bindings and setting up a couple skis with them, using inserts, and the 6.4 mm toe risers. I usually go with Binding Freedom, and per their site an unshimmed Tecton toe takes their 14mm lowhead screw. 14 + 6.4 = 20.4....They do sell 20mm lowheads: do you think this would be solid and provide adequate engagement, or would that 0.4mm difference prove an issue? Really appreciate the time you to take to answer all these queries. Best, Scott.
3/6/2023
Hi Scott,
The .4 difference is fine. The machine threads have a great grip.
The .4 difference is fine. The machine threads have a great grip.
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2/20/2023
I think I need the classic shim for a Dynafit Rotate 7. What size screw for a 3.2 mm plate?
2/20/2023
Hi Paul, for a Rotation 7 you want the Rotation / Radical ST 2.0 shims. Aim for 19mm with that thickness.
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1/31/2023
Given that I want the thick shims, which model work with the old Raider 12 2.0 (front brake)?
2/1/2023
Hi R C, the Raider 2.0 toe used a different mount pattern than either the current Raider or C-Raider. It's 30x27 vs. the 45x44 of the current Raider/Freeraider or 30/45x35 of the C-Raider. Neither ATK or B&D makes a shim with this whole pattern.
ATK does make a Toe Adjustment Plate (R13) that accommodates the 30x27 mount pattern. But this'll require drilling some new holes in the ski. The adjustment plate is 6.4mm thick, so that is within spec for you, too!
ATK does make a Toe Adjustment Plate (R13) that accommodates the 30x27 mount pattern. But this'll require drilling some new holes in the ski. The adjustment plate is 6.4mm thick, so that is within spec for you, too!
2/1/2023
38g per binding which seems like a lot. How janky is it to use the Dynafit shims which share a 30x27 hole pattern?
2/2/2023
Hi R C, the Classic shim has that pattern but it's more of an issue with support under the binding, the Front Raider would overhang. Nothing we stock would work for you, sorry!
2/28/2024
Hi Gabriel I & jbo, is this still accurate?
If I look at the "Hole Pattern Recognition" page, the pattern for ATK R12 (2019) is 45x44.
Anyway, I have the ATK Raider 2.0 from 2019 with the front brake, do any of the B&D shims work with this binding?
Thanks!
If I look at the "Hole Pattern Recognition" page, the pattern for ATK R12 (2019) is 45x44.
Anyway, I have the ATK Raider 2.0 from 2019 with the front brake, do any of the B&D shims work with this binding?
Thanks!
2/28/2024
Hi Tuomas, there is not much of an update here. With all the different Raider versions, it's best to send a photo of your toe to help@skimo.co and we will sort it out.
3/2/2024
Hi job, thanks, will do.
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12/22/2022
Where can I get screws for Vipec bindings? Haven't made up my mind on thickness of shim yet, either 4.7mm or 6.4mm.
12/22/2022
Hi Patrick,
For the 4.7mm, we do have a few 20.5mm Panhead screws. Reach out to us at help@skimo.co if you'd like to grab a few!
For the 6.4mm, you'll need a 22mm Panhead screw, which we don't have at the moment, unfortunately.
For the 4.7mm, we do have a few 20.5mm Panhead screws. Reach out to us at help@skimo.co if you'd like to grab a few!
For the 6.4mm, you'll need a 22mm Panhead screw, which we don't have at the moment, unfortunately.
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11/29/2022
What shim would work with the low tech race 2.0 toes?
11/29/2022
Hi bcvizina,
The Low Tech Race 2.0 has the Radical hole pattern in the toe (30x39), which means that a variety of shims will do the trick. The Classic would certainly work.
Keep in mind, the Low Tech Race 2.0 has a very flat binding delta out of the box, so shimming the toe will likely create a negative ramp angle if you have the binding fixed mounted.
The Low Tech Race 2.0 has the Radical hole pattern in the toe (30x39), which means that a variety of shims will do the trick. The Classic would certainly work.
Keep in mind, the Low Tech Race 2.0 has a very flat binding delta out of the box, so shimming the toe will likely create a negative ramp angle if you have the binding fixed mounted.
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11/22/2022
Question from
Keith Rollins 
Want to order a pair of 4.7mm shims for a Look HM 12 /Radical FT 2.0 what screw size do I need .
Thanks
Keith
Thanks
Keith
11/22/2022
Hi Keith,
You'll want the 21.5mm Pozi screw. It's on this page, just select it from the dropdown above.
You'll want the 21.5mm Pozi screw. It's on this page, just select it from the dropdown above.
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11/14/2022
I have a pair of 165 BD Helios with Dynafit ST Radical bindings and size 24 boots, so I can feel the difference in height between my heel and toe pretty significantly. What shims would work for my setup? And, this may be a silly question, but is it possible to add shims when the bindings are already mounted, or would adding shims be something that needs to be done when the skis are being mounted?
11/14/2022
Hi Claire,
If you are looking to reduce the delta in your Dynafit Radical ST bindings, I would start with the 4.7mm Radical 1.0 shim paired with the 23.5mm pozi screws. This will get you from 15mm to 10.3mm, which is a more reasonable delta.
The 6.4mm Radical 1.0 shims will be the most you can reduce delta, but you will need to source your own screws, or grind down the 28.0mm pozi screws we have listed about. You are aiming for 8.0mm of screw penetration into the ski.
You will need to remove your toe piece and add the shim underneath. If you would like more details, feel free to reach out to help@skimo.co!
If you are looking to reduce the delta in your Dynafit Radical ST bindings, I would start with the 4.7mm Radical 1.0 shim paired with the 23.5mm pozi screws. This will get you from 15mm to 10.3mm, which is a more reasonable delta.
The 6.4mm Radical 1.0 shims will be the most you can reduce delta, but you will need to source your own screws, or grind down the 28.0mm pozi screws we have listed about. You are aiming for 8.0mm of screw penetration into the ski.
You will need to remove your toe piece and add the shim underneath. If you would like more details, feel free to reach out to help@skimo.co!
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9/24/2022
Hello! I got a new pair of Dynafit radicals last year with a delta of +13. My resort bindings have +4 so I wanted to shim the toes as close to that as possible. My issue is Dynafit seems to have changed the branding for the 2021 model and I’m not sure which radical shims I need. Please help me out with what shims and screws to purchase. Thanks!
9/26/2022
Thanks for reaching out, Dawson. The shims for 21/22 bindings are also compatible with 22/23 bindings. If you have a Speed Radical, the Classic shim is the way to go. If you have a Radical ST, then the Radical 1.0 Shims are what you're after. If you have an older radical binding (unlikely) please send an email to help@skimo.co and we'll get it figured out!
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1/23/2022
Do you have any shims or options for an Atomic Backland toe? Finding the ramp doesn’t work for me and unfortunately but them on a few skis this year. Ideally in the 6mm range.
1/24/2022
Josh- At this point there have been no shims made for the Atomic toe. You might be able to buy the Vipec/tecton which has no holes and custom make yourself one. Might be a lot of work for multiple pairs of toes though.
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1/8/2022
So why is there a different shim for the Radical FT and Speed Radical from the same generation? I can't see a difference . . . . Looks like one is white and one black.
Have a set of FT's minus toe piece. Want to use them plus the white speed radical toe piece with BD shims. Don't want to spend +$100 on a toe piece for 8 year old bindings.
Have a set of FT's minus toe piece. Want to use them plus the white speed radical toe piece with BD shims. Don't want to spend +$100 on a toe piece for 8 year old bindings.
1/9/2022
Hi Lee, the Radical FT had a baseplate under the toe, which this shim is designed to go underneath. If you're simply replacing the under-toe plates with this shim, then that would work fine.
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I have added B&D shims to 2 different ski setups over the years on g3 and dynafit toes. Both toe shimectomys I have performed have been on toe pieces that were already mounted. Here is my method: start with a bone dry ski and back the screws out, clean and brush holes. When a ski is mounted the screw driving into the ski will raise some material around the screw hole, test your shim and check if this raised material interferes with getting a perfect flat matchup with ski and shim. If it does then use a knife to shave that material down. I use JB weld to fill the holes and hopefully permanently hold the new longer screws that are going to receive more torque as they will sit higher off the ski. Dry for a long time in a warm dry place. I have been really happy with my shim jobs and how they change my stance.
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12/2/2021
Judging by the looks of it I can put a vipec shim under a trab toe and trim down as needed? No drill holes so no problem?
12/3/2021
Thanks for your question, Anthony. You have a few options to shim a Trab toe piece. First, you can use the Titan Toe Shim/Lock Plate if you have a ski trab binding that isn't shimmed, such as the gara titan. If you have either Titan Vario Adjustable or the Titan Vario 2 (both have the shim), and you want to get increase the toe height, you could use a classic shim, found in the drop-down menu above, in conjunction with the ski trab shim. There would be a little overlap of the titan toe shim on the classic shim, however, you could trim this away. Finally, if you wanted to use the toe piece solely with a B&D shim, the classic or vipec shim would work. Please keep in mind that the toe lever relies on "structure" in order to be locked out, so there would be some fiddling involved in order to achieve that. Please let us know if you have any other questions!
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5/8/2021
Hi,
Looking for a heel shim to my Marker alpinist - can you advice on what to buy/what will work?
I am pretty happy with the delta of shifts and kingpin so I would like to achieve around the same with the alpinist (given that I have a 266mm sole).
I have searced everywhere for heel lifters.
Thanx in advance!
Looking for a heel shim to my Marker alpinist - can you advice on what to buy/what will work?
I am pretty happy with the delta of shifts and kingpin so I would like to achieve around the same with the alpinist (given that I have a 266mm sole).
I have searced everywhere for heel lifters.
Thanx in advance!
5/8/2021
Thanks for reaching out Regina, we do not carry any heel shims unfortunately. If your local alpine shop is able to do canting for customers, they may have some thick plastic that could work!
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4/12/2021
Looking to reduce the angle on a pair of BD Helio 350’s (similar to ATK Raider 12 / Hagan Core Pro, but no measurement on your Delta table) - I have these at a 15.88mm delta for the median out of 3 measurements and would like to put them in the range of the Tectons / Shifts (8/9mm)
Are shims for the Helio toes available, and if so could you point me to them on your site? Or, are any of the options here viable for those toes?
Are shims for the Helio toes available, and if so could you point me to them on your site? Or, are any of the options here viable for those toes?
4/12/2021
Hi Fischer, the Classic shims above work for the Helio 350 toes.
4/13/2021
Thanks @ jbo!
Any recommendation on screws? Putting these into a pair of BD Route 95s. I'll either go with the 4.7 or 6.4 shim, leaning towards 6.4 since I'm also using a shorter boot (F1 LT) on this rig than normal (Maestrale)
Any recommendation on screws? Putting these into a pair of BD Route 95s. I'll either go with the 4.7 or 6.4 shim, leaning towards 6.4 since I'm also using a shorter boot (F1 LT) on this rig than normal (Maestrale)
4/13/2021
Hi Fisher, you should be targeting 13mm + (4.7 or 6.4). So basically, the 18s or 19s depending on which way you go.
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3/31/2021
Hi I know someone asked about the zeds and i am trying to find something to raise the heel about 3mm - do you have any available blank material or a non drilled shim tht i can drill myself and install- thank you Frank
3/31/2021
Hi Frank,
Sadly, we do not have any blank shims! I would recommend checking locally in your area, as we do not have any shims that would work for a Zed heel.
Sadly, we do not have any blank shims! I would recommend checking locally in your area, as we do not have any shims that would work for a Zed heel.
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3/6/2021
I’m not enjoying the low delta (4mm) of my G3 Zed bindings, compared to the (11mm) G3 Ions and 15mm (Dynafit Radical ST) bindings I’ve used previously. Do you have anything suitable for shimming the Zed heels?
3/6/2021
Thanks for your question, Stewart. There are no shims, from B&D or otherwise, that will help increase the delta of a Zed. Please let us know if you have any other questions!
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2/14/2021
I'm looking to shim the toe on some speed turns 6.4mm. Classic pattern right? And what do you reckon for screw length?
Thanks!
Thanks!
2/15/2021
Thanks for your question, Jonathan! The classic shim would a great option and the 19mm screws should do the trick. Please reach out if you have any other questions!
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