SCARPA Alien 3.0 Boot

The Alien 1.0 in 28.0 fits me perfecto! So, would the 43 be the way to go in the 3.0? Thanks!

Is there a boot center mark on these boots?

Thanks!

Hi!

I have a size 27 Alien 1.0, 26 wasn't a good fit for me, so I'd likely be like a 26,5.

What size Scarpa Alien 3.0 should I choose on? A 41 or 42?

Atomic Backland Ultimate boots fit well in a 26.5 also!

Thank you.

I've been on Syborgs for the last couple years, considering an upgrade; size 29.5 - 30, wide forefoot. Do they make the Alien 3.0 that big? What are my options in the lighter boots?

Does anyone else get arch pain while skinning with the boa cranked tight? Any ideas for a fix?

Hi Nate
THX for your quick answer
Cant seem to find the BSL measurements for 3.0 anywhere
what is the BSL for SZ 44 PLS
THX!!

HI There.
I am considering to upgrade from by 2016 Dynafit PDG to Alien 3.0. The question is sizing. I have used Scarpa teli boots and I am 28.5 to be comfy. My PDG from 2016 are 28. If I was to do 6-8 hour day on my current PDGs now I would have to be 28.8, my feat freeze after 4 hours of Vert. However 2HR Skimo Race the current PDG is fine. I need to replace the PDG with Pure race boot and 3.0 seems like the most popular. What size would you recommend? If I was to go PDG2.0 this year I would go with 27.5 for race and 28.5 for touring,(given Dynafit changes their sizing from 2016). Should I be looking at 43 or 44 for the 3.o's THX!!

M

What's the bsl of the size 39 Alien 3.0?

What's the bsl of the 25 Alien 3.0?

Hi Skimo. I’m considering this years alien 3.0. I believe the gaiter on the latest model goes all the way up compared with last years model? Is this correct?
I agree that PG race have a flimsy fit or feel. My sizing with a thin sock is between mondo 26 - 26.5 (measured in store). My alien rs are 27 which is somewhat too large for me. I would like a good fit but not a tight fit with a thick pair of wool socks. Do you think size 42 would work for me?
Any idea how many degrees of ankle flex? My PG’s have a superb flex but the alien rs’ flex could be better.
Thanks, Geir

A sizing question please- planning to buy some of these boots. I have been skiing for years in Alien 1.0 in a 27 shell but they are cripplingly tight and am very happy in a Scarpa F1 in a 28. I get cold feet and am planning on fitting another F1 liner to Alien 3.0s- I know modification will be needed, but clearly with that liner more volme will be needed. Do you reckon 43 or 44? Thanks!

Can't seem to find bsl info anywhere for the 3.0s, any idea of the bsl on size 41 and 42?

The alien 3.0 is by far my favorite of the three current full carbon boots. I've had time on quite the range of full carbon boots in the last couple of years, Stratos Cube, Hi cube, and Evo, PG Race 400, and the Alien 3.0. The 3.0 (and the discontinued Evo) have the highest quality construction. You can tell a tremendous amount of handwork goes into a pair of these boots. The aliens ski the best out of the group, much stiffer than PG, and closely followed by Hi cubes. These things are amazingly stiff I would easily feel comfortable driving 90mm skis. Gignoux boots have a lightweight flimsy feel not shared by the aliens.

The aliens are the most "finished" boot. Smooth actuation of the ski/walk lever, the boa cord provides excellent heel hold, the flexible carbon/kevlar wraparound portion of the cuff is a nice touch not shared by other boots. The short zippered gaiter of the newest version is nicely thought out, great for racing, though sometimes I wish it was full length for mountaineering objectives

Fit is different from other Scarpa boots. Much lower volume top to bottom, but holds the same classic wide Scarpa fit. I fit perfectly in a 27 Alien rs, the 3.0 in a 43 was too large, I believe a 42 would be a good all around fit. Perhaps even the 41 with some liner mods.

Hi Nate, couldn't figure out how to comment below my previous question but if I am on an Alien 1.0 with a 279bsl and went with a 41 3.0 with a 276bsl, would I have to remount my current atk's or would I be safe to use the 276bsl on my current mount? If I had to remount, would it be too close to remount just the heel piece or would I have to push the toe and heel up or down some? Thanks!

I fit perfectly in a size 27 RS Alien, should I go with a 41.5 or a 42 in the alien 3.0?

What is the bsl on the Alien 3.0's in a 40 and 41?

Five Stars for sure given the most amazing combination of an extremely light weight and the extremely stiff skiing performance.

And for sure a boot this pricey had better merit five stars, although fortunately I had a medical reason so it’s tax-deductible. Okay, maybe I should consult with an accountant first about such legal matters, but that really is why I bought this boot: on both my Dynafit-rebranded Pierre Gignoux boots and my Alien 1.0 I’d had to shave down all the liner foam in the toe box to squeeze into a 26, and when combined with my toes maybe becoming a mm or so longer over time, plus the crazy Arctic blast we had in New England in December and January this season, I wouldn’t regain sensation in my toes until over an hour after skiing, and I’d go to bed at night still in pain.

Fortunately though these boots are so awesome that I’m almost glad that I went through all that! First, just one caveat regarding a claim in the Skimo Co description: “[…] the integrated gaiter keeps out the snow when you’re breaking trail, obviating the need for gaiter accessories or fancy pants (admittedly we’ll still wear fancy pants).” Even despite how boots this fancy deserve fancy pants – the craftsmanship of the carbon fiber is truly stunning – the 3.0 has been available in two different versions. I’m not sure which version is the “3.1” but my version (unlike the pictured version here) has a relatively low zippered gaiter (which seems quite substantial, in contrast to some other brands that are prone to failure) that definitely does not keep out deep powder while trail breaking though fortunately my tattered 1.0 gaiters work perfectly.

Sizing is confusing given the Euro system, plus I suspect Scarpa translation’s is a bit generous: my 42 Alien 3.0 is listed as the equivalent of a 27, but that would be a really tight 27 compared to any other boot from Scarpa, Dynafit, or PG. The interior length is fine for my 26+ foot and the forefoot is surprisingly slim. To tighten up the instep height up a bit and also modify the fit, I added some padding underneath the lightly padded external tongue on the lower shell, but only on the lateral side. Heel fit has been perfect (and very much unlike how I had to modify my size 26 Alien 1.0 shell in the heel cup). The inner bootie is relatively thick for a race boot, so some potential for additional fit adjustments via molding (although didn’t seem to do much of anything for my fairly slim foot).

Before use, you have to place the foam on the inside of the upper cuff, which has a bit of a grade school arts & crafts feel (and unfortunately my grade school daughter wasn’t available to assist). Three different foam thicknesses are provided, but I highly advise using the thickest of the three. Once you have affixed the foam to the upper cuff, you’ll be amazed at how the upper cuff not only goes very far past vertical yet even approaches horizontal! This can be a bit of a drawback as the long mode switch lever might get embedded in yak dung during your month-long expedition to Whereveristan (or more prosaically in ski resort parking lot mud). Speaking of that lever, Scarpa reverted to the excellent 1.0 design after the failed Tronic experiment on the briefly lived 2.0 predecessor.

Before my first outing, I set the cord far looser than I do on my Alien 1.0 boots, and not even as tight as on my Dynafit RC1 carbon boots. At the top I flicked down the lever and …what?!? I was almost locked into place with nearly zero ankle flexion. I then set the cord even more loosely so I have a bit of give before everything is engaged. Yet even with that much give, the 3.0 still skis so well that an old soft 2012 race ski now absolutely rails on firm groomers like its alpine racing cousins. At the other end of the spectrum, the 3.0 isn’t even remotely challenged while driving my 97mm 168cm Dynafit Denali. During one training session, the cord seemed to have loosed up too much on my first descent. Inside the lodge, I pulled up my race suit gaiter and … actually, the large loop on my figure-eight-on-a-bit had slipped off the hook entirely. Yes, that’s right, the 3.0 still skied okay with the forward closure provided only by my lycra race suit!

The downside is that those awkward backcountry maneuvers while still in ski mode for herringboning, sidestepping, etc., are even more awkward in such a stiff boot. And don’t even consider this boot if you’re picky about having a “progressive” flex pattern.

Durability is mainly speculative at this point with only ~118,000’ vertical, but the identical walk/ski mechanism on my 1.0 is still perfectly fine after nearly 1.1’ million vertical. And the 3.0 sole rubber seems just as substantial on the 1.0, which is still almost pristine despite lots of travel over various non-snow surfaces.

I wear a 28 in the La Sportiva Syborg (they are a little roomy had to add and insole). What size do you think I would be in the Alien 3.0?

I've been really considering the Alien 3.0's and 1.0's as a new boot this season. As of now, I've only been in the La Sportiva Syborgs in a 25.5 and unfortunately haven't had the opportunity to try any of the Scarpas on but have heard great things. Is there any way to put the fit of the Aliens in comparison to the Syborgs? Current Syborgs fit really snug in the toe box but not unbearable, I like the performance fit and run all my other boots in a 25.5 as well. I also love that I don't have any heel lift in the Syborgs and that is something I am concerned about in the Scarpas.