I have the 22-23 184CM red Pagoda Tour 100's. Is the recommended mount point on the ski wrong?
Thanks
DPS Pagoda Tour 100 Ski - 2023/24
DPS's ventures into the far ends of the randonnee galaxy began when founder Stephan Drake found himself chasing winter in the Chilean mountains, looking for a ski that would perform as well on re-frozen Portillo crud as it shredded in the Colorado blower that he knew from his college days. It wasn't long before Drake and co. were churning out uber-wide, uber-rockered, uber-playful powder boards that energized the North American backcountry-ski market and inspired a loyal following. More recently, DPS has brought their chops to bare on designing the Tour1 construction and bringing a host of ripping sub-1500-gram skis to market, while chairlift riders have gravitated toward the damp, crud-busting Pure3 and Alchemist constructions. Just in time for 2020 is the Pagoda line, which condenses previous Tour1 and Alchemist/Pure3 models, bringing peace to the debates between "all about the down" freeskiers and "this ski is too wide for the skintrack" randonneurs. By utilizing aerospace-grade foam and 3rd Rail Technology in their cores, the Pagoda ski has won plaudits from early testers for its intuitive, damp feel, especially when compared with other skis in the weight class. With ample tip rocker, more modest tail rocker, and a 100mm-underfoot width, the Pagoda Tour 100 RP hits the sweet spot for many ski tourers in the western ranges, from Wolf Creek to Rogers Pass. When you're looking for a ski that charges downhill like a metal-topsheet piste ski but boasts the weight of a SkimoCo-worthy touring ski, DPS's Pagoda Tour 100 is a strong contender.
- Successor to the ultra-popular powder-farming, Jamaican-band-imitating Wailer ski line.
- Pagoda ski line mixes and matches characteristics of the Tour1 and Alchemist/Pure3 lines for an end result that is easy-skiing yet hard-charging.
- RP (resort powder) camber and sidecut create a powder-hungry ski that holds an edge when conditions get dicey.
- Ash and paulownia stringers keep the ski light on the ascent, damp in variable conditions, and lively in powder.
- Textured polyamide topsheet keeps snow and ice off your ski even during July 4th corn hunts.
- World Cup race-grade base material keeps your Pagodas gliding fast and pairs well with DPS's Phantom treatment.
- Aerospace-grade foam core helps to create a lighter construction, and a more damp feel.
- 3rd Rail Technology creates a damp, durable, and stable ride.
Update 2022/23: DPS tweaked the core construction with the addition of 3rd Rail Technology. Because more color is better, DPS updated the topsheet graphic and introduced more color. Weight increased by 10-20 grams.
Update 2024/25: This has been replaced with a new version, which can be found here.
| Specifications | |
| Lengths (cm) | 153, 163, 171, 179, 184 |
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Weight |
1185g [153] 1285g [163] 1380g [171] 1515g [179] 1560g [184] |
| Weight (pair) | 2370g [153] 2570g [163] 2760g [171] 3030g [179] 3120g [184] |
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120-100-109 [153] 122-100-111 [163] 124-100-112 [171] 126-100-115 [179] 127-100-115 [184] |
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Turn |
15m |
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Skin |
Rounded tip and tail |
| Specs Verified | Yes |
| Design | |
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Rockered tip and modest tail rocker |
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RP (resort powder) hybridized rocker/camber design, sidecut paired with tip and tail taper |
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Foam core with ash and paulownia stringers, 3rd Rail Technology, and World Cup race base |
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Aerospace-grade foam with ash and paulownia stringers and 3rd Rail Technology |
| Skimo Co Says | |
| Usage | Maximal performance in powder and crud |
| Notes | Aerospace-grade foam core with 3rd Rail Technology offers impressive damping, durability, and stability |
| Bottom Line | Crush powder, chop, and sastrugi with a Cadillac feel |
| Compare to other Mid-fat Skis | |
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Questions & Reviews
11/29/2024
11/29/2024
Hi Rob,
Not quite sure what your question is here - are you asking if the line marked on the ski accurately represents the recommended mounting point? Or are you wondering if you should deviate from recommended?
We have observed with some of the Pagoda Tour skis that the mounting lines are not marked exactly in the right spot on the topsheet. When mounting, you (or your shop) should always measure to find the true mounting point.
As for deviating from recommended, we don't think this is a ski where that's really necessary! We like how they ski on recommended.
Not quite sure what your question is here - are you asking if the line marked on the ski accurately represents the recommended mounting point? Or are you wondering if you should deviate from recommended?
We have observed with some of the Pagoda Tour skis that the mounting lines are not marked exactly in the right spot on the topsheet. When mounting, you (or your shop) should always measure to find the true mounting point.
As for deviating from recommended, we don't think this is a ski where that's really necessary! We like how they ski on recommended.
11/29/2024
I’m asking if the line marked on the ski accurately represents the recommended mounting point. What is the distance from the tails for this ski in 184 CM length.
Thank you!
Thank you!
11/29/2024
Hi Rob, it's best to not trust that line. Go 28.6cm from the front of the raised mounting plate.
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I picked these up last spring on sale in the 171cm and finally got out on them yesterday. Wow. DPS has really cracked the code for touring skis. This thing is amazing - unlike a lot of touring skis it lets me ski the way I want. It does prefer some shin pressure, more so than the average ski, which I'm guessing is due to the mount point. But that same mount point makes it more maneuverable and floaty so I'm totally happy with the trade off. Just bend your knees and ski and it's no problem. Pivots well, has great dampness and solid power, seemed great on some ice I encountered. I can't really find a fault based on experience so far, other than the price and of course it would be great if they were lighter. However to me the weight is very acceptable for the performance. Nice job DPS.
8/7/2024
Hey Stephen,
I am exactly your height and weight and still not 100% sure if I should get the 171cm or 179cm Pagoda Tour 100.
Do you sometimes wish to have the longer one? How is the float in powder for you?
I am exactly your height and weight and still not 100% sure if I should get the 171cm or 179cm Pagoda Tour 100.
Do you sometimes wish to have the longer one? How is the float in powder for you?
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11/11/2023
I am 177cm, 80kg
Should I go for the 177 or the 184 length?
Should I go for the 177 or the 184 length?
11/11/2023
Hi Ole,
I would recommend the 179cm (there isn't a 177 in this ski) as a general touring ski. The DPS skis are pretty stout in flex and have a turny character. No need to really size them up, especially since the 179cm will already be at the top of your head.
I would recommend the 179cm (there isn't a 177 in this ski) as a general touring ski. The DPS skis are pretty stout in flex and have a turny character. No need to really size them up, especially since the 179cm will already be at the top of your head.
11/12/2023
yes, agree, since the longest comes in 184 cm, it makes sense.
It sounds like an overall good choice, only weakness seems to be its chatter in high speeds.
It sounds like an overall good choice, only weakness seems to be its chatter in high speeds.
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9/26/2023
I was looking at the 2021/22's in the 153 as a potential option for my wife. Have any of you guys skied both the 2021/22 and the 23's? I'm wondering how much dampness the "3rd rail" provides
9/26/2023
Hi Tim, In our experience, you would be pretty hard-pressed to feel a difference between the models on snow. The DPS Pagoda construction is very damp for its weight to begin with, so if you're interested in the shape and rocker profile that these skis provide, I would feel free to buy the previous year's model with confidence!
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First season in on these skis and loved them so far! A few sketchy early season days, solid pow days - both resort and backcountry, all the way through to spring slush/ice conditions. Floated through the pow, fun on the groomers, and didn't let me down in the less than ideal mush. Easy to get used to, a bit more chatter than my previous skis but perform well when pushed through the edges.
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4/9/2023
Question from
Brent Hansen 
best place to mount 171?
thank you
thank you
4/10/2023
Brent, We recommend mounting at the recommended point. The line on the ski may not be accurate. So do boot center at 73.4cm from the tail of the ski.
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3/21/2023
Having a hard time deciding between these in 179 and Backland 100s in 180. Both get good reviews but people keep comparing them to wider or narrower skis and I'm in the market for a ~100mm ski for a good skier. If you were making hop turns somewhere scary which one of these two would feel more solid? If you were on a big face of wind-affected pow and like GS turns which would feel more stable?
3/21/2023
Hi Malcolm! I don't think either ski would be my first choice for high-consequence jump turns, however between the two, the Backland is likely to be more confidence-inspiring. For high speeds in less-than-ideal snow, the Pagodas would make for an excellent choice. They benefit from a unique construction that lends itself to some of the dampest skiing found in the industry. Thanks!
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I’m surprised there are no reviews (perhaps it is the steep price tag). But once you pay the price tag, you will be happy. I love the way these ski. In many ways the best compliment to a piece of gear is when it becomes unnoticeable and just works. That’s how I feel about these skis. Whatever the conditions, just go downhill without thinking about it. They are so stable and dependable they now do double duty as my resort skis.
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