Hi,
Could you tell something about the new 2024 version of the Wayback 88?
I wonder what are main differences between the new and old versions in terms of weight and flex pattern, which of them is softer?
K2 Wayback 88 Ski
K2’s entrance into the lightweight touring market certainly caught our attention (they previously made heavier touring skis). The Wayback 88 is a top contender for the title of Quiver-of-One. Factor in price, and it's a sure-fire winner. It’ll float in powder and pop while slashing corn laps, yet still flaunt relentless grip and stability on firm snow when laying ‘em down. Usually when skis present such an impressive level of downhill performance, the last thing you feel like doing is hauling them uphill for another lap. The Wayback weight is low enough that at first glance one might expect an uphill-focused touring ski with mediocre handling. If weight is out of the equation and downhill performance was the sole focus, the K2 Wayback 88 would still be impressive. As it is, the combination of superb weight, construction, and outstanding ski performance is enough to win us over. Go ahead, try it.
- “Snophobic” Top Sheet isn’t a real word, but it sheds snow quickly.
- Carbon Overdrive is a super-secret carbon fiber layup for increased performance.
- Ti Spyne dampens the ski while increasing system stiffness.
- All-Terrain Rocker is K2’s trademark profile for float and easy turn initiation.
- Paulownia Tour Lite core is energetic and lightweight, perfect for a touring ski.
- Skin Grommets are quick tip-attachments for matching precut skins.
- Surprisingly low price for such a good ski.
Update 2020/21: The K2 Wayback 88 is coming back this season with a spiffy updated topsheet, sure to make you look stylish and glide faster!
| Specifications | |
| Lengths (cm) | 160, 167, 174, 181 |
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Weight |
1145g [160] 1220g [167] 1275g [174] 1360g [181] |
| Weight (pair) | 2290g [160] 2440g [167] 2550g [174] 2720g [181] |
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121-88-109 |
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Turn |
16m [160] 18m [167] 20m [174] 21.5m [181] |
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Skin |
Z-Clip tip and tail holes, flat notched tail |
| Specs Verified | Yes |
| Design | |
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Mild rocker, camber underfoot |
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Square-ish, tapered tip and friendly, medium radius |
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Titanal Ti-Spyne laminate with abs sidewall construction, and full metal edges |
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Paulownia |
| Skimo Co Says | |
| Usage | Going anywhere and skiing anything in all but the deepest conditions |
| Notes | Very nice lengths available |
| Bottom Line | Supreme ski at a great price |
| Compare to other Mid-fat Skis | |
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Questions & Reviews
11/21/2023
11/21/2023
Hey Fedor, K2 has replaced our beloved Wayback 88 with the Wayback 89 for 23/24. Unfortunately, we haven't been able to ski the 89, so we can't provide a comparison between the two!
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11/21/2023
Hi,
Could you tell what is the actual length (straight line from tip to tail) of the 174 Wayback 88?
Could you tell what is the actual length (straight line from tip to tail) of the 174 Wayback 88?
11/21/2023
Hey Fedor, it measures at 173.5cm.
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10/23/2023
I'm looking for a beginner skimo ski that still handles well on the downhills but is not too fast. I don't know much about skis and wondering if the K2 Wayback 88 Ski would be a good option for me. I'm 178 centimeters tall.
10/24/2023
Hi Charlotte,
This is a relatively stiff ski that excels at longer turns, breaking speed with a bit of wiggling rather than a stiff turn on edge. Its construction helps it really live to its fullest potential on piste skiing or shallow snow conditions. I think the K2 might be a tad aggressive if you are new at skiing in general - that being said, if you're familiar with a downhill experience and like longer turns, this might be the ski for you. It's certainly a great ski at its pricepoint. I'd point you to any ski for touring around high 160cm - low 170cm range.
If you want to pick through the weeds more, send us an email at help@skimo.co and we'd be happy to pick through some options with you more directly!
This is a relatively stiff ski that excels at longer turns, breaking speed with a bit of wiggling rather than a stiff turn on edge. Its construction helps it really live to its fullest potential on piste skiing or shallow snow conditions. I think the K2 might be a tad aggressive if you are new at skiing in general - that being said, if you're familiar with a downhill experience and like longer turns, this might be the ski for you. It's certainly a great ski at its pricepoint. I'd point you to any ski for touring around high 160cm - low 170cm range.
If you want to pick through the weeds more, send us an email at help@skimo.co and we'd be happy to pick through some options with you more directly!
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9/29/2023
Hello, I would like to start with alpine touring this winter (I am an advanced piste skier but never tried AT until now). The initial idea is to start in a resort area and use the AT skis to climb over some soft snow areas. Would the Wayback 88 work reasonably well for soft snow (not very deep usually) ? Or should I look for a wider ski ? I own narrow on-piste skis so I am mostly interested in off-piste behavior.
Thank you.
Thank you.
9/29/2023
Hi Mihai,
The Wayback 88 would be a great option for uphill touring in the resort where you're expecting to ski some off-piste conditions but not very deep snow. If more than 6 inches or so of fresh snow is on the menu regularly, I would consider something like the Dynastar M-Tour 99, but for mixed conditions and shallower powder or piste skiing, the Waybacks would do great.
The Wayback 88 would be a great option for uphill touring in the resort where you're expecting to ski some off-piste conditions but not very deep snow. If more than 6 inches or so of fresh snow is on the menu regularly, I would consider something like the Dynastar M-Tour 99, but for mixed conditions and shallower powder or piste skiing, the Waybacks would do great.
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4/6/2023
Can you compare the flex and rocker of these to Salomon mtn 88s. Thank you
4/21/2023
Scott, I just flexed those for you. The K2 are quite stiff, which make them good for variable nasty spring conditions. The MTN 88 and new 86 are on the softer side and very friendly to ski.
The K2 has a good amount of tip rise and very flat tail. The Salomon's are more traditional. Little tip rocker, but more tail rocker then the Waybacks.
The K2 has a good amount of tip rise and very flat tail. The Salomon's are more traditional. Little tip rocker, but more tail rocker then the Waybacks.
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2/27/2023
Hi, I'm 181 cm tall and 83 kg. I am an advanced skier and prefer steep skiing using short, sometimes intermediate turns in winter and spring conditions. I intend to do tours with up to 2000 m of height difference. For a lot of fresh snow I use Elan Ripstick 106 skis, so I won't be using Waybacks 88 on those occasions. What do you think is the correct length fo me?
2/27/2023
Hi Robb, I would go with the 174s!
2/28/2023
Robb, I am about your size and have these skis in 174 as my 'spring' ski. This ski is not great anywhere, but good everywhere. IMO, this ski at this price point may be the best deal available at skimoco. If you buy this ski you are ensuring that you have something that can get up but remains fun and capable on the way down (not ping pong ball survival skiing).
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2/14/2023
Outside of price and weight, how do these compare to the Movement Alps Tracks 90?
I'm looking for an Eastern Sierra ski for mostly couloir skiing.
I'm looking for an Eastern Sierra ski for mostly couloir skiing.
2/14/2023
Chuck,
These are stiffer, with less of an early rocker. Both would be great for couloir skiing. Personally, I'd say the Alp Tracks would be more fun in powder, while the Wayback will handle spring conditions and crud better.
These are stiffer, with less of an early rocker. Both would be great for couloir skiing. Personally, I'd say the Alp Tracks would be more fun in powder, while the Wayback will handle spring conditions and crud better.
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2/4/2023
I'm a 62 year old tele skier. I own 179cm Navis Black Crows and 184 Moment Wildcat tours and ski primarily in the Mt. Shasta area. I'm looking for a light AT kit for fitness, summits, and spring conditions. I'm thinking 167cm, but not sure. I'm 5'10" and about 180lbs.
2/4/2023
Hey Gary, from what you've described, the 167 would work quite well. If you wanted more stability/flotation and were willing to carry more weight to the top, the 174cm would also be acceptable. Generally for your size, I would consider the 167cm to be more of a mountaineering ski whereas the 174 would be a daily driver touring ski.
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12/1/2022
What year is the K2 Wayback you are selling? Is there any difference, other than graphics between the 2022 and 2023 versions? Thanks so much.
12/1/2022
Hi Emily, it was just a graphics update for 2022/23. These have the 2021/22 topsheet.
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6/4/2022
Hi, Do you think there is room to put a notch in the tip of these to take race type skins?
6/4/2022
Hi Klm, thanks for the question. Because of the Z-Clip tip, you'd need to keep that notch slightly shallower than the 15mm we usually Dremel. I do think it would work fine with a race-style bungee but probably not a rubber tip attachment. I hope that helps.
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2/21/2022
I’m looking for a spring and steep ski mountaineering ski. Weight of ski is not a huge concern. I’m 175lbs 6-3 tall. Like to ski fast when the terrain allows it but I’m not a great skier technically speaking. Would like it for spring corn and summits and mid winter couloirs.
I was think this or maybe the black light 88. But I’m not sure it will be stiff enough and I like the price of the wayback.
What would you guys suggest? And what length?
I was think this or maybe the black light 88. But I’m not sure it will be stiff enough and I like the price of the wayback.
What would you guys suggest? And what length?
2/22/2022
Hey Tyson, thanks for asking-- happy to sound off on comparing these two. The Wayback 88 is a beloved spring-summer tool with a wide tip which broadens its versatility. The skis you are comparing are both fairly stiff, the biggest difference being maybe that the K2s have a bit more "juice" on the downhill due to their slightly beefier construction. In terms of length, the 174cm would be best for couloirs while 181cm would be preferable at speed. If you're a speed machine, go for the 181!
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1/28/2022
Hi, I am 174 cm, 67 kg, intermediate skier, I ski on moderate slopes, with a small pack, the 167 length is too long for me or is fine? Thank you
1/28/2022
Thanks for reaching out, Tarnoky! The 167 would work well!
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1/21/2022
Im 178cm tall and 72kg and debating whether on going with Wayback 88/96 or Salomon MTN explore 88/95 for my first touring ski/one quiver. I am an intermediate/advanced skiier.
I will ski in varied conditions (soft powder,crud,wind packed snow) and also sometimes in the piste. Would you recommend one over the other and at what length?
I will ski in varied conditions (soft powder,crud,wind packed snow) and also sometimes in the piste. Would you recommend one over the other and at what length?
1/21/2022
Hey Eric, great question, and great choice! In short, the MTN Explore will have somewhat better float and a softer flex while the Wayback will be a bit stiffer and carvier. If you encounter powder on a regular basis, the 95 waist width will be helpful to meet these conditions, though at this point we don't carry that width in the Wayback. Lastly, I would recommend the 167cm for length in this ski or 169cm in the Explore. Hope that helps!
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1/11/2022
I'm 5'8"/172cm and 150 lb going for steep, tight, and light. Think I can get away with the 160?
1/11/2022
Hey Taylor I think the 160cm length would be totally fine. I am 184cm in height and have owned several ski mountaineering skis at the 169cm-172cm length and I find the height very versatile and easy for doing technical jump turns. Let us know if you have any more questions.
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12/14/2021
Looking for thoughts on Wayback 88 vs Backland UL 85. The intended use is spring corn, steeps, and volcanoes. They will be replacing a pair of old, de-cambered ZeroG 85's that I'm not quite sure I ever liked.
12/14/2021
Hey Goran,
I think based on the intended use you described the Wayback 88 is going to be a perfect choice. That ski is both maneuverable and surfy, so it really shines in spring conditions!
I think based on the intended use you described the Wayback 88 is going to be a perfect choice. That ski is both maneuverable and surfy, so it really shines in spring conditions!
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11/3/2021
6'3, 195, let's say "advanced intermediate" skill. Looking for a dedicated mountaineer setup for chasing PNW volcanos and some uphill resort conditioning.
Is 88 underfoot and 174 length going to be enough at my size for Spring/early Summer ascents in the Cascades? Should I be looking longer or at 96s instead?
Wondering if these would be too soft for me or just right? I’m 6’3” and 193 lbs. intermediate skier progressing towards expert. Also, what would be the best length? This ski would be my spring ski and uphill resort ski.
Is 88 underfoot and 174 length going to be enough at my size for Spring/early Summer ascents in the Cascades? Should I be looking longer or at 96s instead?
Wondering if these would be too soft for me or just right? I’m 6’3” and 193 lbs. intermediate skier progressing towards expert. Also, what would be the best length? This ski would be my spring ski and uphill resort ski.
11/3/2021
Hi Jon,
88 underfoot should be totally sufficient for volcano chasing! In Firmer spring conditions or corn, a narrow waist width is far more manageable. Additionally, a narrow ski is grams saved.
Length is a more subjective matter. 174cm will be pretty short for someone of your stature. However, a lot of folks like to save grams with a shorter spring ski because it will save weight, and be a far more maneuverable ski. However, that will come at the expense of stability at speed. If you plan to ski very controlled, you will have no issues with this length. If you are a fan of faster more wide open turns, I would go 181cm.
Finally, on to ski characteristics. The Wayback 88 is an awesome all around performer. It is surprisingly damp for its weight, and has a turn radius that will suit a wide range of skiers. You will certainly be able to “grow” into this ski! If you have further questions, reach out to help@skimo.co.
88 underfoot should be totally sufficient for volcano chasing! In Firmer spring conditions or corn, a narrow waist width is far more manageable. Additionally, a narrow ski is grams saved.
Length is a more subjective matter. 174cm will be pretty short for someone of your stature. However, a lot of folks like to save grams with a shorter spring ski because it will save weight, and be a far more maneuverable ski. However, that will come at the expense of stability at speed. If you plan to ski very controlled, you will have no issues with this length. If you are a fan of faster more wide open turns, I would go 181cm.
Finally, on to ski characteristics. The Wayback 88 is an awesome all around performer. It is surprisingly damp for its weight, and has a turn radius that will suit a wide range of skiers. You will certainly be able to “grow” into this ski! If you have further questions, reach out to help@skimo.co.
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4/28/2021
Hi! I am in the market for skinny spring/volcano skis and I'm stuck between K2 Wayback 88s and Black Crows Orb Freebrids. I was wondering if you had any insight on how the two would compare with each other. Thank you!
4/28/2021
Hi Kyle, I've skied both. The Wayback is super versatile for all the conditions you'll find on a volcano, and I find it edges better than the Orbs which feel loose. The Orbs might be a bit easier in super cut up or variable snow as they are fairly soft & forgiving, but more scary on the steep and firm.
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3/19/2021
I have been skiing the k2 Mt. Baker for over 10 years. I keep skiing it because it works so well for me mostly lift serve telemark. The skis are obviously getting old. Would the K2 wayback 88 be a good replacement?
Thanks
Thanks
3/19/2021
Aren, Good to hear from Tele skiers. The Wayback 88 comes in the same lengths and sidecut are very nearly the same as the Mt Bakers. Construction has some modern upgrades. This ski holds up well in firm and all manners of cut-up snow, so will ski in the resorts better than your old one. Mounting is always a concern for light AT skis, but K2 has a pretty generous toe mounting area, so it should hold a Tel binding well.
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2/19/2021
Hi,
I'm an 60 yr old experienced intermediate telemark skier, 74 kg, 179 cm, looking for a ski for longer tours that can handle both powder and windblown conditions. Would the Wayback 88 in 174 cm be suitable? Also wondering about the Salomon Mtn Explore 88 in 169 cm (too short?) or 177.
I'm an 60 yr old experienced intermediate telemark skier, 74 kg, 179 cm, looking for a ski for longer tours that can handle both powder and windblown conditions. Would the Wayback 88 in 174 cm be suitable? Also wondering about the Salomon Mtn Explore 88 in 169 cm (too short?) or 177.
2/20/2021
Rick,
The Wayback 88 will handle itself very well in all but the deepest powder. The slightly wider tip on the MTN Explore 88 will help with float, but for crudbusting and confident edge hold I will give the nod to the Wayback 88. If you do go for the MTN Explore 88 the 169cm length would be my choice for you. Hope this helps!
The Wayback 88 will handle itself very well in all but the deepest powder. The slightly wider tip on the MTN Explore 88 will help with float, but for crudbusting and confident edge hold I will give the nod to the Wayback 88. If you do go for the MTN Explore 88 the 169cm length would be my choice for you. Hope this helps!
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2/6/2021
Hi,
Would you recommend this ski for a heavier person, I'm 77 kg / 171 cm. Looking for a lighter ski which capable of my weight and is easy to handle in mixed conditions.
Would you recommend this ski for a heavier person, I'm 77 kg / 171 cm. Looking for a lighter ski which capable of my weight and is easy to handle in mixed conditions.
2/8/2021
Hey Anderson, the Wayback 88 would be an excellent choice as a lightweight higher-performing ski throughout lots of different terrain choices. If you are looking for a ski that can handle a variety of conditions and a bit less of that "deflecting" feel that a lot of lighter skis seem to maintain the Wayback 88 would be a great choice.
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