Hello!
I just got a pair of 2023 Scott Cosmos Pros in a 25/25.5 shell, which provides about 1.5 fingers of space. I’m finding the stock 25.5 liners to be too soft and I’d like the fit to be a little bit more snug around my ankle. Forefoot fit is great. Which liner would you recommend? Thanks!
Intuition Pro Tour Liners
Closed-cell EVA foam is known for its ability to hold a mold. That means after having your liners heat molded, they won’t start to return to a former shape and crowd your feet. The foam is also warmer than some other liner materials and is very dense which helps in high-performance skiing. All Intuition liners are made with specially formulated closed-cell EVA foam, which is why they are often the first choice for pro skiers. The Pro Tour is an Intuition foam liner with flex zones to improve articulation in touring boots.
- Uniform cell structure traps gasses for the highest quality memory foam.
- Patented foam without fillers is lighter than traditional sewn or injected liners.
- Ankle flex zone increases comfort and range of motion when skiing uphill.
- Integrated lacing system securely wraps your foot to help avoid blisters.
- Liners can be reheated several times and will still retain their shape.
- Available with three thickness ratings: low, medium, and high volume*.
* The Low Volume version is much thinner than the Medium Volume and weighs 22g less in size 26. The High Volume is much thicker than the Medium Volume liner and will take up more space making the fit tighter.
* Sizing: For whole-sized touring boots (e.g. 26.0), order the liner in the same size as your boot. For half sizes (e.g. 26.5), round down for most boot models except those using "SCARPA sizing" (where 26.5 is the same shell as 27.0). For SCARPA boots, round up. If you have questions, you can call or email us at help@skimo.co and we can help find your best liner.
Update 2023/24: The Pro Tour has been replaced by the Tour Tongue, which can be found here.
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4/4/2023
4/4/2023
Rosy,
You could try a Low Volume Pro Tour, size 25. That will definitely be firmer, especially after heat molding.
You could try a Low Volume Pro Tour, size 25. That will definitely be firmer, especially after heat molding.
4/4/2023
Thank you for the suggestion!
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3/27/2023
would you recommend the LV or MV for a Fischer Transalp Pro? How does this liner compare to the Palau Power LT in terms of weight and ski / tour performance? thanks!
3/27/2023
Koby, the first part of the question depends on your foot. For the TransAlp boot, this is a lot of liner and will affect the fit. They are thicker overall then the Power LT liner. And will affect the cuff rotation. You can email us with details of your fit and what you are trying to change - help@skimo.co
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3/21/2023
In my Dynafit Blacklights there isn’t quite enough padding for my heel spurs. The left boot fits great with stock liner, right heel hurts that has larger spur. Would these liners provide more padding in the heel than stock. Also would I loose the light boot feel with these liners?
3/22/2023
Hey Max, these certainly will provide more padding than the stock liner, though you'd want to get them heat molded as they are 4mm thicker (in the LV option) than the stock liner. Compared to the stock liner, these weigh more and will have a reduced range of motion. Some folks may feel this while others may not.
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2/26/2023
I purchased these liners 2 weeks ago, to use with my Hoji Pro Tours. I have been on three shorter tours with them. I feel like they might have less range of motion than I used to with the stock liner. Is that possible, or am I misremembering? Is range/walkability something that will develop as I use the liner more?
Thanks!
Thanks!
2/27/2023
Alex, The Stock liners and the Pro Tour are both pretty thick liners, will not have a light boot unrestricted feeling. The flex point will soften a bit in time. And you may be miss remembering some too.
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I usually love intuitions (this is my 3rd pair) but their LOW-VOLUME liner has a C-shaped pad (or region with extra foam thickness) that doesn't line up with my ankle.
Bad design decision on their part.
Had to seriously compress the thick spots on my ankle w/ heat and quick grip clamps to get rid of my hot spots.
See photo (my ankle bone is on the blue dot. The C-shaped pad is off by almost a couple inches!)
Bad design decision on their part.
Had to seriously compress the thick spots on my ankle w/ heat and quick grip clamps to get rid of my hot spots.
See photo (my ankle bone is on the blue dot. The C-shaped pad is off by almost a couple inches!)
2/9/2023
^^^ Sorry, that was kind of a re-post. But I wanted to leave a review so others know I'm bummed.
Looks like Intuition has another "low volume" tour liner called the "Tour Mod", designed for skimo!!
Any chance Skimoco will carry that in the future?
https://intuitionliners.com/shop/tour-mod/
Looks like Intuition has another "low volume" tour liner called the "Tour Mod", designed for skimo!!
Any chance Skimoco will carry that in the future?
https://intuitionliners.com/shop/tour-mod/
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2/7/2023
I have some Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD 130 boots that have way too much room around the lower leg with the stock liner, but are fine around my foot. I have a low volume foot with a high instep, and custom footbeds. Which liner would I pick to take up a lot of room around my leg without have too much bulk around my foot? Or will the liner pack down enough with heat molding?
2/8/2023
Chris,
Definitely heat mold them first! You might find that parts of the liner pack out, allowing you to buckle the boots tighter around your lower leg. The Palau Power LT liner is a good bit thinner than the stock Hawx liner I believe, but has a good amount of volume around the lower leg and cuff. A Medium Volume Intuition Pro Tour might also work, but there's still a lot of volume in the foot box.
Definitely heat mold them first! You might find that parts of the liner pack out, allowing you to buckle the boots tighter around your lower leg. The Palau Power LT liner is a good bit thinner than the stock Hawx liner I believe, but has a good amount of volume around the lower leg and cuff. A Medium Volume Intuition Pro Tour might also work, but there's still a lot of volume in the foot box.
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2/6/2023
I have tecnica zero G scout boots in size 24.5. they fit great and I am happy with them. unfortunately the stock liner has worn through in the medial ankle area of both boots and the hole is causing blisters. I want to replace the stock liners with intuition for a similar feel. What size and volume would you recommend? Thanks!
(Intuition should be paying you folks with how helpful you are in selecting their liners!)
(Intuition should be paying you folks with how helpful you are in selecting their liners!)
2/6/2023
Louise,
I'd go with the medium volume size 24. Thanks!
I'd go with the medium volume size 24. Thanks!
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2/3/2023
I have some dynafit tlt 8 I just got from you in size 28.5. Out of the box fit is excellent without heat molding. Could possibly be a little more snug. I have wide foot and high arch. Stock liners are lacking around the cuff and tongue. Would pro tours be best option to increase padding around the cuff and tongue of the boot? I have room for a little thicker liner in the shell. Should I get the size 28 liner?
2/3/2023
Hi Kyle, thanks for the support! Great to hear about the fit. You could put in an intuition and it would definitely take up more space in the cuff and on top of the foot. Generally, you want to mold these liners. The 28 would be correct. You could also look at the Palau Power LT for a bit more beef and not quite as thick in the cuff. You may want to just see how the stock liner skis for you first.
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2/1/2023
Have a pair of 2010 Lange Super Blaster (27.5) and liners a packed out. Tried a number of new boots and none have made me happy, so wondering about replacing liners. Intuition Pro Tour Liners MV or HV 27 work?
2/1/2023
Hi Steven, that looks like an alpine boot so I wouldn't recommend this touring liner.
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2/1/2023
I purchased the low volume liners, and noticed that they have some thicker material in a C shape around what’s supposed to be the ankle (red line to emphasize the shadow).
Unfortunately, the middle of the C does not coincide with the position of my ankle bone (piece of blue tape).
As a result, I have a hot spot right on my ankle bone.
Can I do surgery on the liner and (re)move the C shaped piece of material? Or is it built-in? What else could I do?
Unfortunately, the middle of the C does not coincide with the position of my ankle bone (piece of blue tape).
As a result, I have a hot spot right on my ankle bone.
Can I do surgery on the liner and (re)move the C shaped piece of material? Or is it built-in? What else could I do?
2/1/2023
Mark,
We haven't heard of anyone doing that so I'm not exactly sure what would be involved in moving or removing it. You'd void the warranty of course. You could also heat mold them with a ton of padding on your ankle bone, or heat that spot and pack it out with your hands.
We haven't heard of anyone doing that so I'm not exactly sure what would be involved in moving or removing it. You'd void the warranty of course. You could also heat mold them with a ton of padding on your ankle bone, or heat that spot and pack it out with your hands.
2/9/2023
I got some quick grip clamps to smash the thick spot under my ankle down. That helped a lot (more than heat molding w/ thick ankle pads -- though I might try that again).
Seems like an issue to take up w/ Intuition
Seems like an issue to take up w/ Intuition
2/9/2023
Mark,
Glad to hear you’re making progress on the issue at least… Intuition certainly might have more info on the construction of the liner.
Glad to hear you’re making progress on the issue at least… Intuition certainly might have more info on the construction of the liner.
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1/31/2023
Looking for a replacement liners for my Salomon Shift 120s - 27.5. Original liner never offered the feel or control I’d like, despite a custom foot bed and additional heal lock. Have heard the Pro Tours would be perfect for a tighter feel throughout the boot. Would you recommend the HV for an all around snugger fit?
1/31/2023
Hi Mark, the HV would take up the most space if that's what you're after, noting there is only so much a liner can do to correct an ill-fitting boot. The Intuitions work best when heat molded.
2/1/2023
For sure. Boots fit well, just want a bit more control and feel. Would you recommend the Pro Tours, and at what size for a 27.5 boot? Many thanks!
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1/21/2023
Looking for replacement liners for my Scott Cosmos II in 26.5. I found the stock liners comfortable but never quite supportive/stiff enough. I have also had issues with rubbing in the heels and have worn through the inside heels of the stock liners (=blisters...ouch). What liners would you recommend? Thank you!
1/21/2023
Hi Scott. The Intuition Pro Tour in Medium Volume is likely close to the stock liner in that boot in terms of thickness. It'll provide good heel hold. The High Volume option will give you a little more support, and it's getting close to resort boot thickness. Getting these molded is important for a good fit!
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1/12/2023
I have a pair of Technica zero G peaks in 28.5 that I ordered a size up (2finger shell fit) to use as a high altitude/cold temps boot. With the stock liner they are already my warmest boot because of the extra space. I’ve used intuition in the past for warm liners. Would the intuition tour be the best option for making this light boot warmer and maintaining most of the walkability?
1/12/2023
Hi Mauri, the Intuition Pro Tours will be a tight squeeze into the Zero G Peaks, and you'll lose a lot of the walkability that boot has to offer. They're geared more towards beefier boots. The Palau Power LT could be an option, they'll represent a thicker than stock liner that maintains a decent amount of walkability.
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1/7/2023
I have a pair of Technica Zero G Peak Carbon boots, 27.5. Unfortunately the liner has packed out quickly. The boot length is perfect, now the liner seems to big. Could a new liner like the pro tour take care of this issue? If so, what volume do you suggest?
Thanks, Markian
Thanks, Markian
1/7/2023
Hi Markian, the Pro Tour liners are significantly higher volume than the stock liners in leaner boots like the Zero G Peak, even at the Low Volume option. The Palau Power LT is a good option to add some thickness while maintaining the Zero G's walkability.
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1/2/2023
Hi
I have the Dynafit Radical Pro boot, in a 27.5 size.
It fits well lengthwise, but the last is probably too big for me so i have to much room in width
Which size should i go to ? 28HV ? 27MV ?
I have the Dynafit Radical Pro boot, in a 27.5 size.
It fits well lengthwise, but the last is probably too big for me so i have to much room in width
Which size should i go to ? 28HV ? 27MV ?
1/2/2023
Hi Rares, liners can only do so much to fix a misfitting shell. High volume would take up the most space, but may not solve your problem.
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12/31/2022
I have size 28 Scott Excursions. Scott has same shell for 28 and 28.5 I need a little more room than I have with the stock liners. Really need the 28.5 liners. How do I mimic the 28.5 liner? go with a 28 LV? 29LV? I have a wide foot, large ankles and somewhat high arch.
1/2/2023
Hi Karl,
I think for that boot the Palau Power LT Liner might be a better choice, and it comes in half sizes, which might suite your toes a little better too!
I think for that boot the Palau Power LT Liner might be a better choice, and it comes in half sizes, which might suite your toes a little better too!
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12/31/2022
I'm looking for some replacement liners for 23/24.5 garmont venus telemark boots. I'm not sure about the liner size, but feet are on the large size relative to the shell. Any recommendations?
1/2/2023
Olav,
In general, we recommend the medium volume, but you could go with a low volume if you want to take up much less volume. Go with a liner that matches the boot size - not sure if you meant 23/23.5 or 24/24.5.
In general, we recommend the medium volume, but you could go with a low volume if you want to take up much less volume. Go with a liner that matches the boot size - not sure if you meant 23/23.5 or 24/24.5.
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12/18/2022
I have a 2020 pair of tecnica zero g tours (not the pro model) in 28.5 and have about 1 1/2 finger space at the heel. I tried a pair of medium volume intuition tour pros (size 29) that I had from a different pair of boots, and they fit pretty well except that the second buckle was putting pressure on the top of my foot. The stock liners relieve most of the issue but a bit tight in the toes, as I have a wider toe box. I was thinking about trying the tour pros in a low volume, size 29 and having the boot molded to relieve the issues. Do you think this would be a good move? Are there any concerns with fitting the 29 liners in a 28.5 boot? They seem to fit ok. I want to get the right liners before I start the fitting process.
12/19/2022
Hi Tony,
We'd recommend sticking to a size 28 liner for the 28.5 boot. The issues in pressure might be coming from too much foam being forced down by the smaller shell size. A low-volume 28 liner will provide you with more room.
I would say that if the Medium volume is currently unbearable, even after heat molding, then the Low volume might provide more room. It will be up to your preference.
We'd recommend sticking to a size 28 liner for the 28.5 boot. The issues in pressure might be coming from too much foam being forced down by the smaller shell size. A low-volume 28 liner will provide you with more room.
I would say that if the Medium volume is currently unbearable, even after heat molding, then the Low volume might provide more room. It will be up to your preference.
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11/23/2022
What is the downhill performance difference between the Pro Tour and Tour Wrap. I’m replacing the Tecnica Zero G Pro Tour stock liners.
11/25/2022
Adam- I think there would be very little difference in downhill performance. But the range of motion on the Tour Wrap is not as good as the Pro Tour.
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11/23/2022
Hi,
I have a dynafit TLT X. stock liner is too thin and lacks lacing option (don't understand why, some seem to have laces). Almost perfect fit using liner from other touring boot Dalbello asolo Q free 130 which is a bit beefier. Looking to buy Intiotion pro tour liner. I use 28 cm boot, but I am thinking to try 27 LV liner and thermofit. 28 liner seems bigger than both stock and dalbello liner. I have wide forefoot but thin ankles
I have a dynafit TLT X. stock liner is too thin and lacks lacing option (don't understand why, some seem to have laces). Almost perfect fit using liner from other touring boot Dalbello asolo Q free 130 which is a bit beefier. Looking to buy Intiotion pro tour liner. I use 28 cm boot, but I am thinking to try 27 LV liner and thermofit. 28 liner seems bigger than both stock and dalbello liner. I have wide forefoot but thin ankles
11/23/2022
Hi Jeroen, the Pro Tours are much thicker, especially in the cuff which could affect your fit. You'd likely be better off with a Palau Power LT which also has laces. A Tour Lite Pro is closer to the stock liner with a lacing option.
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