I have a pair of Salomon MTN Lab boots in 28.5. The fit has become pretty sloppy and I'm having heel retention issues (i.e. blisters).
I want to replace the liners. Knowing this boot has a narrow last and I have a narrower foot, I'm not sure if I need the low volume liner or medium.
The description for the Low Volume seems to say that the liner is thinner, but in some of your previous answers, you say the low volume liner will take up extra volume...
If you could clarify this, it would be most helpful.
Thanks!
Intuition Pro Tour Liners
Closed-cell EVA foam is known for its ability to hold a mold. That means after having your liners heat molded, they won’t start to return to a former shape and crowd your feet. The foam is also warmer than some other liner materials and is very dense which helps in high-performance skiing. All Intuition liners are made with specially formulated closed-cell EVA foam, which is why they are often the first choice for pro skiers. The Pro Tour is an Intuition foam liner with flex zones to improve articulation in touring boots.
- Uniform cell structure traps gasses for the highest quality memory foam.
- Patented foam without fillers is lighter than traditional sewn or injected liners.
- Ankle flex zone increases comfort and range of motion when skiing uphill.
- Integrated lacing system securely wraps your foot to help avoid blisters.
- Liners can be reheated several times and will still retain their shape.
- Available with three thickness ratings: low, medium, and high volume*.
* The Low Volume version is much thinner than the Medium Volume and weighs 22g less in size 26. The High Volume is much thicker than the Medium Volume liner and will take up more space making the fit tighter.
* Sizing: For whole-sized touring boots (e.g. 26.0), order the liner in the same size as your boot. For half sizes (e.g. 26.5), round down for most boot models except those using "SCARPA sizing" (where 26.5 is the same shell as 27.0). For SCARPA boots, round up. If you have questions, you can call or email us at help@skimo.co and we can help find your best liner.
Update 2023/24: The Pro Tour has been replaced by the Tour Tongue, which can be found here.
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1/31/2019
1/31/2019
Hi Steve, It is counter intuitive. For your narrower foot, go with the medium.
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1/22/2019
The liner in my 27.5 F1s has about worn out. They fit so nice out of the box and I'd want a liner that will be as close to the original as possible, what would you recommend?
1/22/2019
Hi Jon, I would recommend the Low Volume version of this liner in a size 27.
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1/21/2019
Love my 27.5 Atomic Backland Carbons -- especially on the "up"! I'm fortunate to have unfinicky feet and the out-of-the-box fit is spot on. What I'm looking for is a way to stiffen them up, for the "down". Would the Intuition Pro Tour Liner be the ticket? Again, no problems with fit, circulation, or warmth, so would the Medium or Low Volume fit better (in the shell) with the goal of providing greater stiffness? Also open to other Liners/suggestions that you might have... Thx!
1/21/2019
Hey Brendan! Nice. Normal-ish feet for the win! Here's what I would look at before I purchased a new liner:
1) Make sure the tongues are installed on the way down.
2) Install a burly power strap. The boot is plenty stiff, but the cuff is low and gives the illusion that it's softer than it really is because your legs have so much leverage over them.
3) Avoid mashing through the forward flex with your knees while skiing. Let your shins make contact with the tongue of the liner and then roll the skis on edge.
4) If you've already done those three things (sounds like you have, but I listed them just in case anyone else was reading), then feel free to install a new liner. I would start with the LV if the fit in the Backland was doing reasonably well with the stock liner.
1) Make sure the tongues are installed on the way down.
2) Install a burly power strap. The boot is plenty stiff, but the cuff is low and gives the illusion that it's softer than it really is because your legs have so much leverage over them.
3) Avoid mashing through the forward flex with your knees while skiing. Let your shins make contact with the tongue of the liner and then roll the skis on edge.
4) If you've already done those three things (sounds like you have, but I listed them just in case anyone else was reading), then feel free to install a new liner. I would start with the LV if the fit in the Backland was doing reasonably well with the stock liner.
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12/11/2018
For TLT 6 my original liners are wearing out. Is there a recommendation for a replacement liner? The Pro tour vs. the Palau?
12/11/2018
Hey Jon! This is the liner that we've been using in the TLT6 for years. If you are set on the Pro Tour Liner though, I would go for the LV version, but maybe only if you are trying to take up a little bit of extra space.
12/18/2020
Hey there, so if I have the TL6 and want to take up a little space you would recommend the the Pro tour LV over the Palau? thanks so much! TIm
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11/30/2018
I ski a garmont ener-g tele boot size 27.5, and I'm wondering if the 28 liner in the medium would be a good fit for me. (They said to size up with the pro tour liner) The original liner is getting worn out, uncomfortable, and it usually results in loss of a toenail or two after bootpacking up steep slopes all winter! I have the one finger fit in the boot without a liner. I definitely prefer to have a roomier toe area, but also need it nice and snug around the rest of the foot. I'm curious if there is enough room in the boot for the medium liner with heat molding and toe pads to get the fit that I'm looking for? Or would the thinner one be better? Thanks for your help!
12/7/2018
Hey Carl! Sorry for the slow turnaround time with this one. If you have a 1 finger shell fit, then definitely go with the LV version. A 2 finger shell fit is generally what most boots are based on as far as dimensions and fitting go, so if you are a 1 finger fit, then the LV will probably be the better choice.
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11/21/2018
Another sizing question - I have the blue 2017/2018 Scarpa F1 in a 29. Shell is correct size based on finger test but stock liner is not as tight as I'd like in some spots. I've made some mods that helped but think a thicker liner to start with may help.
I just tried to install Pro Tour high volume liners but they were too thick.
So my question: how do the low and medium volume protours compare with the stock F1 liner? Do you think the medium has potential to give me the fit I'm after?
Thanks!
I just tried to install Pro Tour high volume liners but they were too thick.
So my question: how do the low and medium volume protours compare with the stock F1 liner? Do you think the medium has potential to give me the fit I'm after?
Thanks!
11/21/2018
Hey Andy! The low volume is probably the closest to the stock F1 liner, so if you are trying to take up some extra space, I'd go for the medium volume.
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11/12/2018
I am having some heel retention issues with Scarpa Aliens and stock liners. I have about two fingers of space in the shells. Do you think these liners would be a reasonable upgrade, and provide some thickness to mold a better heel pocket? Thanks.
11/12/2018
Hey Sean! I think that putting a bigger liner in there has potential to fix the solution. Here's my thought: if the liners fit fine except for the heel issues and they are new-ish, throw some foam j-bars around the heel to lock them in. If you are getting heel slip issues and you have instep/volume issues, a footbed might be the solution instead of a new liner. If you have had volume and heel issues from the beginning though then a thicker liner might help. Probably not the Pro Tour though, it's a pretty burly liner for an Alien. If you want to take up a bit of extra space, look at the 7mm option of this. I'd say anything burlier than this liner though and we're looking at some different heel issues that need to be addressed.
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6/29/2018
Hi,
I have Khion Carbon 27.5. After two seasons (ski patrolling) the liners are so packed out that I can't tighten the boots sufficiently. I would like to replace the liners with the Pro Tour. Should I buy a 27 or 28 medium?
Many thanks.
I have Khion Carbon 27.5. After two seasons (ski patrolling) the liners are so packed out that I can't tighten the boots sufficiently. I would like to replace the liners with the Pro Tour. Should I buy a 27 or 28 medium?
Many thanks.
6/29/2018
Hey Marc. Thanks for reaching out. I haven't played around too much with the Khion so this is going off of memory, but based on what I've seen the Pro Tour liner is probably a great replacement liner for that boot. I don't think sizing up is a good call, the 27 would do much better there for sure.
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3/27/2018
I have a Tecnica zero g W 26.5 and need to change liners which are short at the toes, although shells have 2 fingers fit. Is Pro tour MV in 27 a good choice
3/27/2018
Hi Kostas, in most circumstances we suggest purchasing the size of liner that corresponds with the size of your boot. If extra toe room is needed, we suggest using a larger toe cap during the molding process to achieve the toe room you desire.
11/17/2018
Do not be afraid to size up. Technic Cochise liners (Palau) were short lasted, and I believe the same happened with the Zero G's. Combine that with Tecnica generally having a longer toe box, and you can definitely size up. I'm skiing size 28 Intuition Wrap liners in a 27.5 Cochise and the fit is perfect. Going all the way back to Raichle Thermoflex liners, I skied a size 29 in a 27.5 Tecnica Icon XT, and again the fit was spot on.
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3/14/2018
Hi, I am looking to replace the stock liner in my La Sportiva Sideral 2.0 boots. The liners from a 28.5 Scarpa F1 boots fit well. What size and volume pro tour liner would you recommend? Thanks!
3/16/2018
Hey Joel! This is a pretty burly liner and you'd likely eat up a bunch of volume which may or may not be a good thing depending on what you're looking to do with it. If you are going to go with the Pro Tour though, I would stick with whatever size your boot is and go for the Low Volume. Medium Volume *might* work if you are interested in eating up a bunch of volume though, but I'm suspecting that it might be a bit too tight.
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2/1/2018
Hi, I have 29.5 MP SCARPA FREEDOM SL GRAY-LIME 1015, wide foot (Last 110mm and 29 cm long) and some pressure over arch area.
What would you recommend for size in Pro tour liner? Vol Low/Med? Warmer? thanks
What would you recommend for size in Pro tour liner? Vol Low/Med? Warmer? thanks
2/8/2018
Victor I would say do the same size in an Intuition Pro Tour liner. For your foot the low volume liner would probably be a good choice. Warmth is a function of blood flow more than foam. So having a good fit with proper blood flow will be warmer over any thick foam.
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1/8/2018
Hi, I have 28/28.5 Backland Carbons. 2 finger fit, shell has not been molded (yet). Baked stock liner, wide foot, some pressure over metatasal and arch area. Room in toe box. Stock liner felt cold on first day. What would you recommend for size in Pro tour liner? Vol Low/Med? Warmer? thanks
1/8/2018
Hi Toby, it's definitely a snug fit to pull off a Pro Tour liner inside the Backland Carbon, but I know a couple people who have. I would definitely suggest going with the low volume liner, as there's a good chance you won't be able to get the cuff buckled with the medium volume.
1/9/2018
Hi Toby, just a follow up as I realized I may have not answered your question completely. I would suggest going with a size 28 liner if you're in a 28/28.5 shell. I also highly recommend you have them molded by a competent fitter to ensure the best fit.
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1/2/2018
I have a Scarpa Mastrelli RS in size 27 and need new liners as mine have a lot of miles on them and are very sloppy now. I have a narrow foot. Would the low volume 27 be a good fit to replace the stock intuition liners?
1/2/2018
Hi Jason, The medium volume Pro Tour liner is likely a better replacement for the stock if you are looking to go with this Intuition liner. Especially if you have narrow feet and need the liner to take up some space. If you'd like to stick with the stock liner, we do offer the Scarpa Pro Flex G liner which is what comes in the Maestrale.
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12/11/2017
What's your size/volume recommendation for a size 27 shell Salomon MTN Explore? Stock fit skis sloppy despite supposedly being the correct shell size (1.75 finger shell fit).
12/11/2017
Hey Jon! The 27.0 Medium Volume would be ideal I think, just because there's a bit of extra volume in there that'd suck up some of that sloppiness you're talking about.
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12/7/2017
Just curious which volume Pro Tour is closest to the Dynafit TLT6 CR liner? I'd like to put Pro Tours in a pair of 27/27.5 Backland Carbons, and my (well-loved) CR liners from my 27 TLT6s seem to fit nicely in my BCs (both in the shell and around my foot)
12/7/2017
John- The low volume liner is the closest fit to the tlt6 CR.
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10/7/2017
How does the pro tour compare to the tour mod, has any one used the mod. Im skiing the one px sz 27. The dynafit liner has never been a good fit, I need more room at the toe and instep and a tighter fit at the cuff for very thin ankles and calf. I have about 1 finger shell fit. Any suggestions ? Thanks
10/7/2017
Hey David, thanks for reaching out. The Pro Tour and Tour Mod are fairly similar in their intended use, however the cuff of the Pro Tour is definitely burly and substantial and would probably take care of the issue you're describing. The standard Pro Tour is pretty thick, probably too thick for a 1 finger shell fit, but there is a Low Volume version that we will be getting in shortly that is designed to be thinner and more appropriate for a 1 finger shell fit.
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6/28/2017
How much (if any) stiffness would these add to a one motion tongue style boot like the TLT 6 or Spitfire? Any?
6/29/2017
Hey Dane! I'd say it goes more along the lines of adding support and substance to the boot, rather than purely increasing stiffness. The real issue would be the thickness of the Pro Tour vs. the TLT6/Spitfire liners. The Pro Tour is going to be a fair bit thicker than the liner in either of those boots, so it would effectively reduce volume. I'd say, if you are looking to reduce the volume in your boot and could stand to make the boot a bit more substantial (this applies to both walk and ski mode) then the Pro Tour is a good fit for you.
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5/2/2017
I have the original Vulcans in 27.5 and both stock liners have holes worn into the ankle areas. Do you know if a size 28 medium volume liner would fit 27.5 Vulcan shells?
5/2/2017
Hi David, the 28 would likely be too big. The 27 is the way to go.
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4/9/2017
Question from
Ryan Tetz 
What's a good replacement liner for a Skimo boot like the Dynafit Dy N.A. Evo. What can I do to fit the boot better? It fits great length wise, but feels narrow to me in the instep after long days with odd foot pain. I'm considering new liners and inserts, but am curious as to my best (perhaps limited?) options with a skimo type boot.
Cheers!
-Ryan Tetz
Cheers!
-Ryan Tetz
4/9/2017
Hi Ryan, you'll want a much thinner, race-style liner for the DyNA (especially if you find it narrow). Check out the Palau ultralight.
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3/23/2017
Hello,
I think I can get my TLT 5 mountains to limp through another season or two with a new liner. I have a low volume foot and the TLT 5 fit fairly well when I first got them, that said it wouldn't have hurt if I had a bit more liner material in the boot from the beginning. Would you recommend going with an intuition liner or a stock TLT 6 liner? thanks!
I think I can get my TLT 5 mountains to limp through another season or two with a new liner. I have a low volume foot and the TLT 5 fit fairly well when I first got them, that said it wouldn't have hurt if I had a bit more liner material in the boot from the beginning. Would you recommend going with an intuition liner or a stock TLT 6 liner? thanks!
3/23/2017
Hey Daniel, you could definitely do the Pro Tour Liner in the TLT5 but my only concern is the thickness of the cuff material on the Pro Tour vs. the TLT6 liner. If you have extra room to go larger in the cuff buckle then the Pro Tour could be a good choice, if you are running the buckle at one of the largest settings possible then the TLT6 liner will be a better choice.
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