Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD 130 Boot

does this boot use the same mold as the non touring/resort version of the boot? i have them in 25.5 and they fit great and am considering getting these

To stiffen this boot up a bit - what’s a stiff intuition liner I could get? What size for a 25/255 boot?

Thanks

What liner is recommended for a replacement ? Stock liner is good, looking for lighter weight

They ski like an alpine boot in *most* terrain but are light enough to tour on. Great range of motion for what they are.

Very narrow and short fit (compared to most alpine/hybrid boots). But they fit my feet great and are highly customizable.

I swapped out the stock Mimic liner (incredibly heavy) for a lightweight intuition and saved a bunch of weight. I use the mimic for side-country days and the intuition for any time I'm going out for a longer day.

I’m on a Freeride team, would these boots charge/be able to jump pretty big cliffs and would they be comparable to a downhill oriented ski boot? I’m looking for a 1 boot quiver and these seemed like a pretty good option.

I recently bought a pair of these boots, and everything, the flex, the actual foot and the calf area are perfect. The only thing that I am having trouble with is when I put the boot on, the top of my heel is pinching the boot liner. Is this something that can be fixed, or should I consider buying a different pair of boots?

Would these boots be compatible with a salomon shift 13 and a look pivot 15?

Are both the 21/22 and 22/23 compatible with the 21/22 Marker Griffon 13 ID bindings (ISO 23223 A)?

I have difficult feet and I expect any boot to be extremely painful when I first take it out. I bought these a month-ish ago and was pleasantly surprised at how well they worked with my odd-shaped feet (including a large bone spur that causes a lot of problems).

Although the 4-buckle setup isn't really what I was looking for, I'll still give this boot 5 stars because it's the only one I have found that works out of the box for me.

These boots are amazing if you have low-volume feet/ankles/legs like I do. I have skinny calves and usually have a hard time getting boots tight enough in the legs, but I can get a very secure fit out of the box with the Hawx Ultra XTD.

If you're looking at this page you're probably also looking at the Tecnica Zero G Tour Pro, so here are the differences:
- The Hawx Ultra XTD has a slightly lower-volume fit all around (the Tecnica is pretty low volume though, and the difference could be attributable to the liners, I have not tried on both shells using the same liners to make a direct comparison)
- The shells of both boots are very similar weights, the Hawx are around 30 grams heavier and that is probably attributable to the more robust buckles which are much easier to use than the Tecnica buckles
- The Hawx has a much beefier liner, which is responsible for most of the weight difference. I thought I would immediately chuck the heavy liner for something lighter, but the stiff plastic used in the tongue and upper part of the liner really improves ski performance
- The Hawx has gripwalk soles which make the boot safer to use in resort bindings but makes hiking over rock and ice less secure

I had some Intuition liners that I used to swap out with the stock Mimic liners for longer/faster touring days, but I recently gave away the Intuitions because the Mimics make skiing more fun, worth the extra weight and I have lighter boots for faster/longer tours anyway. I removed the power strap to cut 50g and simplify transitions and I don't miss it, but I only weigh around 150lbs so maybe heavier/chargier skiers would want to leave it on. I don't notice much difference when I use the Mimic liners, which have a very stiff tongue. I also make sure to full unbuckle every buckle before going uphill, which allows good ROM. I am amazed to see people touring around without the buckles fully undone, making uphill much harder than it needs to be.

Considering these for my resort / heavy bc boot for next season. Does anyone have any comment on how they fit into standard alpine bindings.

There a lots of comments here abotu people rocking them inbounds, but is that with tech bindings, or MNC type bindings?

I've been using this both as my touring boot and my resort boot and I love it. The stiffness is awesome and the fit is great for my foot, which is somewhat square at the forefoot with a slightly tall instep and a very narrow ankle/heel. They upgraded the liner from the 2019 model and the new liner is really warm, comfy, and it does a great job of locking in the foot for a snug feel. It walks really well for a 4 buckle boot, and though I am admittedly a smaller human, the flex profile felt plenty stiff to charge as hard as I possibly can on the downhill. For best uphill performance leave the cuff buckles on the first or second buckle, though sometimes I just pop the buckles in to walk mode from wherever I cranked them down to and it doesn't inhibit the ROM much. One thing to be careful of is--if you take the liners out of the shell--when putting them back in make sure the shell is locked down in ski mode, otherwise you can poke a hole in the back of the liner with the part of the lower shell that protrudes when in walk mode.

I've broken the plastic piece on the ankle buckles on these boots after ~20 days of skiing them. Is this a common issue or am I doing something wrong?

As this is a 'heavier' boot on the spectrum, would it be "too much boot" for a lightweight tech binding, or should it be paired with a burlier binding?

I picked these boots up early this season. My goal was to use them as sort of a 50/50 boot. The resort I ski at, has a lot of good slack country, but you need to skin out of it. So I wanted a boot for both in and out of bounds that toured fairly well.

The first thing I noticed when skiing these inbounds, is the liner of this boot is super flimsy and my feet would get cold. I switched out the liner for an Intuition Tour Wrap liner, that improved downhill performance and warmth substantially. I was able to drive my ON3P Wrenegades 108s no problem in all conditions.

For solely backcountry days, the stock liner actually works quite well and I havent had any issues with my feet getting cold. I also live in the PNW and the weather is not super frigid here. Compering these to Scarpa F1 (my normal touring boot), these ski much better and the uphill performance is pretty similar.

Overall I am happy with this boot, the stock liner could definitely use some improvement. Ill be interested to see how these do on some longer days touring in the PNW spring/summer season.

I bought a pair of Atomic Backland Carbon boots from you about six weeks ago and I am very happy with them for skiing Voile Objectives.
Now I am thinking of buying Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD 130 to ski my Wailer 112s. Is this a good pairing. Also, I have a high instep. Will thermal molding shell make this boot work for me?

I’m about 2 weeks in on this boot and could not be happier. I've got about 43,000 ft of skinned vert on them and here in Stowe, Vermont we currently have one of the deepest snow packs in the U.S. so I’ve had great snow in the past 2 weeks, make that incredible snow. So keep that in mind with my review.

First skin with this boot I did not like the boot at all on the uphill. My foot felt jacked too forward and heel felt high and my malleolus got hammered. I had the boots memory fit heat molded and has the bootboard ground just a hair on the heel and these things fit like a glove and are super comfortable.

Uphill performance –
I am coming from a Dynafit TLT5 carbon performance. I would put the TLT5 at a 9 out of 10 for uphill performance – (only skimo race boots being better). Using the TLT as reference point -I put the Hawx xtd 130 at a solid 7.5 for uphill performance- they skin really well and are only 400 grams heavier than my TLTs. My 25/25.5s came in around 1400 grams and my TLts are 1000 grams. I keep the upper two buckles completely undone (as well as power strap) for uninhibited range of motion. If Atomic could increase the forward range of motion a little more in this boot it would be an absolute masterpiece. So let’s say it’s an almost masterpiece. I am being pretty critical here because just using the highest riser on my Dynafit speed radical heel alleviates this issue.

Downhill Performance-
When you switch this boot into downhill mode you instantly feel like a badass. I feel like I can just point it and ski anything on these. They are absolutely confidence inspiring. Oh yeah – they ski powder really well. REALLY WELL. I put the TLT5 at a 7.5 for downhill performance and so far I put these at a 9 out 10 for downhill performance. I’ve skied a fair amount of wind affected mank, chunder, crust and sierra cement type snow – this boot can handle it all. The precision is just insane- on the groomer I hit a few times I could really lay into the turn and have a ton of edge grip and super solid input from boot to the ski. The cuff comes up higher than the TLT and just gives you a ton of control and it’s nice and stiff (130 flex index) but it’s a progressive flex unlike the TLT5 which has very little progressiveness to the flex (it’s there but it’s a small amount). On the Atomic I feel like there’s a great deal of progressive flex. I did a lot of research to settle on this boot and the Scarpa Maestrale RS was the only other one I was really considering (weight, how well it skins, how well it goes down). For a 1400 gram boot with a good uphill mode and range of motion that can ski down like a pure alpine boot I give this boot a 9 out of 10 overall score. Improve the uphill range of motion a bit more and you have a 10 out of 10.

Hey Skimo.co crew

I have been in a Dynafit TLT5 Performance for several seasons and do a mix of BC and cable laps. I hate skiing the TLT5 with the tongue because it loses the progressive flex. I also fold the boot anytime we get good snow. Definitely want to upgrade my situation! I am in a size 26.0 (BSL 287mm) in the TLT5 and it's a perfect fit although i had to add some foam to forefoot area - i have narrow feet. (FWIW I am in a 25.5/ 279 bsl in the Dynafit PDGs for skimo races). If i go with a 25 in the Atomic Hawx XTD is there enough thickness in the shell for a boot fitter to punch/stretch in terms of length? Or would the memory fit cooking of the liner and shell stretch that? Can it stretch for length? I don't think I'll need any punches in terms of width.

What is the last for this boot? I have a wide foot and fit best in a 102mm. If it’s 98, it would be a difficult fit.
Thanks,
David

What size is the liner for this boot? Looking for 25.5 liner with boot.