First, thanks for being so diligent about answering questions, this is a great resource.
I have an old pair of Dynafit One U 28.0 which I can’t give up because they’re just too comfy and they ski well. I have a big two finger shell fit, but they’re just about right across the forefoot, and my heels are always locked down. I want to replace the stock packed out liners and also save some weight because I guess I’m committed to this heavier PU shell. I think a Palau liner would save me almost 200g / boot, but I’m looking for advice regarding the best replacement for fit.?
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Gordon
Palau Tour Lite Pro Evo Liners
Palau is the liner supplier for Dynafit, La Sportiva, Fischer, and other well-known boot brands. This is because the 100% closed-cell EVA foam is highly moldable and offers great thermal retention. Being European, Palau of course didn’t forget to make their liners walk really well with strategic cutouts in the ankle and tongue-designs that don’t impede skinning. The Tour Lite Pro Evo liners are medium thickness, lightweight, with an Achilles flex zone and a Velcro closure. This model makes a great replacement for stock liners found on the SCARPA F1, Sportiva Sytron/Sideral, Dynafit TLT6/7, and other high-performance ski touring boots.
- 100% closed-cell EVA foam is very receptive to molding.
- Tongue-design doesn’t interfere with walking like an overlap.
- Velcro flap-system offers better calf-wrap and contact while skiing.
- Flex-zone behind the ankle allows for unimpeded skinning and booting.
- 8mm thick, Medium Density is light, flexible, yet reasonably warm.
- Compatible with TLT6, 7, Fischer Travers, F1, Spitfire and similar models.
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6/24/2023
6/27/2023
Gordon-Sounds like you need a thicker liner for your boots. It would be worth looking at the Palau Power LT or even possibly a better option in the thicker Palau All Track Power liner in the 28.0. Heat molding the All Track would give the best fit possible too.
6/27/2023
Thanks. Palau Power LT doesn’t seem to be available in 28.0. Should I go to 28.5, or wait for restock in the fall? Also, are there weights listed anywhere for these different liners?
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7/6/2023
Hi Gordon, the 28.5 should still work, but do note that Palau's half sizes are real, and the 28.5 is a tad longer than the 28. The size 28 would be closest to the stock liner. We do have the size 28 All Track Power Liner in stock. We will definitely restock the Power LT in the Fall, so if you want that one and can wait, we'll have it in!
We don't have these weights published, but I measure the 28.5 Tour Lite Pro Evo at 187g, the 28.5 Power LT (without laces) at 218g, and the 28.0 All Track Power (without laces) at 230g.
We don't have these weights published, but I measure the 28.5 Tour Lite Pro Evo at 187g, the 28.5 Power LT (without laces) at 218g, and the 28.0 All Track Power (without laces) at 230g.
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4/17/2023
I have a pair of 32 snowboard boots in size 9 (27) which is my mondo. I freeride and would like to replace the stock liners. Any idea if these would fit? I have a wider forefoot and smaller heel.
Out of what you carry which liners might work in snowboard boots?
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Out of what you carry which liners might work in snowboard boots?
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4/17/2023
Tef8- These might work, but not knowing how thick the original liner is it is hard to say. Best bet is to go to a shop and try some liners on with your boot and see how they fit out of the box.
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2/10/2023
Hi, I have a 30.0 size alien RS shell. My feet are 29.0-29.5 size. I am looking for a thicker liner for more comfort especially at the tongue part. What would be your recommendation? Would a Palau Tour Lite Evo or even a Palau All Track Power LT be a solution?
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2/10/2023
Marton, A thicker liner will only work if you have extra room in your shell. The RS is rather low volume shell. The Tour Lite Evo would be a good fit. An Intuition Pro Tour or the All Track have very thick cuffs that will not work well in the Alien.
2/10/2023
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2/1/2023
James
(used product regularly)
I bought a pair of these to replace the stock liners in my Dynafit Blacklight boots. These liners are far superior. After a molding they are so comfy and formed to my feet very well. I've put a lot of days into them and they have broken in wonderfully. Highly recommended.
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1/20/2023
What size would you get for a 28.5 Tecnica Zero G Peak Carbon?
1/20/2023
Hi Dom, both the 28 and 28.5 sizes will fit the Zero G Peak Carbon in a 28.5. The 28 might be a little snugger out of the box than a 28.5, but will mold out fine.
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12/29/2022
Hello.
I have La Sportiva spitfire 2.1 28.5 and need new liner. Need more warm and a little bit space for my wide metatarsal. Which Palau would you recomend and what size? Thank you.
I have La Sportiva spitfire 2.1 28.5 and need new liner. Need more warm and a little bit space for my wide metatarsal. Which Palau would you recomend and what size? Thank you.
12/29/2022
This liner is just 1mm thicker then the Tour Lite Pro. So maybe a touch warmer. For width, you should be able to mold for width equally in either.
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12/26/2022
I have a pair of Atomic Backlands. From the above comments it seems like the Tour Light Pro Evo liners would be a suitable replacement liner. My Backland boots are a 25/25.5, there are only a 25 liner in stock. Are the 25 and the 25.5 liners the same dimensions?
12/26/2022
Hi Maura, not quite, but either liner should work just fine, especially if you heat mold them.
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11/9/2022
Looking for new liners for my Scarpa F1 LT size 28. After 2 seasons on the liners they are trashed. Im looking to take up more space in my shell as I am using boot spacers to take up volume. I felt that the stock liners packed out after 1 season. Theres about ~3/4inch behind my heel when doing the shell test. Cant decide between the Palau Tour Lite Pro Evo or Palau Tour Lite Pro.
Questions:
Which is better for the F1 LT?
How do these two compare with the stock liner of the F1 LT?
What size would I get?
Questions:
Which is better for the F1 LT?
How do these two compare with the stock liner of the F1 LT?
What size would I get?
11/10/2022
Hi Kevin,
The Palau Tour Lite Pro Evo will fill out some additional space as compared with the stock liner in the F1 LT. The Palau Tour Lite Pro is lower volume than the Evo, and will likely be closer to the fit of the stock liner.
As for sizing , I would get the 27.5 for a 28.0 F1 LT.
The Palau Tour Lite Pro Evo will fill out some additional space as compared with the stock liner in the F1 LT. The Palau Tour Lite Pro is lower volume than the Evo, and will likely be closer to the fit of the stock liner.
As for sizing , I would get the 27.5 for a 28.0 F1 LT.
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Really enjoying these liners as a replacement in my old Alien RS. The fit and warmth is great, no issues molding and the velcro closure is a really nice feature for keeping the tongue positioned all day. I have no complaints! Thanks for the suggestion Skimo Co!
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10/13/2022
Thanks Jeff, but you don't seem convinced that this is a good idea? Is the liner really thicker at the heel? it's going to cost me a lot to bring it here with customs and I want to be sure of the choice.
I also have another question: my girlfriend has scarpa F1 21.5-22 I would like to put liner on her with a better or flexible gait (palau TOUR evo) it would take her a 22.. Do you think you will receive any soon? or with you another options
thank you
I also have another question: my girlfriend has scarpa F1 21.5-22 I would like to put liner on her with a better or flexible gait (palau TOUR evo) it would take her a 22.. Do you think you will receive any soon? or with you another options
thank you
10/13/2022
Hello Frede
This could be better via email. help@skimo.co
The difference between the Tour Lite Pro's is only one mm. And the thickness of stock liners is not noted and hard to compare with the Palau.
Plus other variables. Stock liners frequently have more shape to them. Then foam densities. The TLT boots now use a denser Ultralon foam, that is more supportive. Comparing the two, the EVO will probably not be any thicker then the stock liner.
This could be better via email. help@skimo.co
The difference between the Tour Lite Pro's is only one mm. And the thickness of stock liners is not noted and hard to compare with the Palau.
Plus other variables. Stock liners frequently have more shape to them. Then foam densities. The TLT boots now use a denser Ultralon foam, that is more supportive. Comparing the two, the EVO will probably not be any thicker then the stock liner.
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10/11/2022
Hello gang, I want to order a liner for my future blacklight boot. I tested the tlt x in 26.5 the fit was super good everywhere except for my heel which was floating in the pocket. I hesitate in the power lt and the tour lite pro evo. if not, is the dynafit liner for women thicker at the heel?
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10/11/2022
Hello Frede,
First, have you explored the idea of adding a good footbed and maybe padding the Achilles area?
Otherwise, You would want to go with the EVO liner. Both this one and the Power LT are 8mm in the foot, but the Power LT cuff is quite thick and would not be good match for a Light boot.
First, have you explored the idea of adding a good footbed and maybe padding the Achilles area?
Otherwise, You would want to go with the EVO liner. Both this one and the Power LT are 8mm in the foot, but the Power LT cuff is quite thick and would not be good match for a Light boot.
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9/15/2022
I'm looking for a pair of replacement liners for my Roxa RX Tour boots. Would these or the regular Tour Lite Pros be the closest to the stock liner in that boot?
9/15/2022
Hey Eddie, the Palau Tour Lite Pro Evo Liners will work great for those Roxas. They have a bit more padding on the shin and calve compared to the Palau Tour Lite Pro Liners.
9/15/2022
Thanks Cole, any idea which of these would be more similar to the original liner in terms of fit? I assume the Evos would be a bit tighter around the shin and calf due to the extra padding there?
9/15/2022
I would recommend the Evo's. The only reason you would go with the Tour Lite Pro liners is if you feel that you need the extra room in the calves and shin area. Otherwise having more padding will help with comfort and performance.
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6/19/2022
Hi
I have a pair of technical zero G scout in 27.5
The stock liners have pretty much perfect volume around my foot (high instep), but I have pressure points around my ankles (medial and lateral malleolus)- especially when in touring mode. I’ve had the boots punched, which has improved things a bit
The stock liners have minimal padding around the ankles
How will these compare (perfect for me would be the same volume in the foot, more padding in the ankle/ calf)
I have a pair of technical zero G scout in 27.5
The stock liners have pretty much perfect volume around my foot (high instep), but I have pressure points around my ankles (medial and lateral malleolus)- especially when in touring mode. I’ve had the boots punched, which has improved things a bit
The stock liners have minimal padding around the ankles
How will these compare (perfect for me would be the same volume in the foot, more padding in the ankle/ calf)
6/20/2022
Tom, Foot problems.
I pulled a liner from a Scout boot and compared to the Palau liner. The Tecnica liner was a bit thicker, firmer and more molded. When it comes to pressure points, punching is the answer. Even though Tecnica has designed their boots to punch well, there is Plastic memory and punches tend to go back some to the original shape. So get punch again and More. Maybe adding boot foam around those spots will also help alleviate the hurt.
I pulled a liner from a Scout boot and compared to the Palau liner. The Tecnica liner was a bit thicker, firmer and more molded. When it comes to pressure points, punching is the answer. Even though Tecnica has designed their boots to punch well, there is Plastic memory and punches tend to go back some to the original shape. So get punch again and More. Maybe adding boot foam around those spots will also help alleviate the hurt.
6/21/2022
The main pressure point is over my lateral malleolus, pretty much right over the cuff pivot. It doesn't seem practical to punch there
I've padded it with boot foam, without much effect
Do you think a Power LT liner might work?
Or should I just put up with it
It's not too bad in ski mode, but hurts in walk mode after a while
In comparison, my travers CS are the most comfortable boots I've ever had
I've padded it with boot foam, without much effect
Do you think a Power LT liner might work?
Or should I just put up with it
It's not too bad in ski mode, but hurts in walk mode after a while
In comparison, my travers CS are the most comfortable boots I've ever had
6/21/2022
Tom, The dimpled spots on the Tecnica boots are areas that can be punched. The area around the pivot is one. You can punch carefully right on the pivot, which will help the spot above it. Every bit will help. Your problem is the shell, not the liner.
The Power LT liners could be better. They are more of a performance match to the Scout boot. Thicker at the cuff, that may help around the top of your ankle bone.
The Power LT liners could be better. They are more of a performance match to the Scout boot. Thicker at the cuff, that may help around the top of your ankle bone.
6/21/2022
Thanks, appreciate the thoughtful answers
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4/20/2022
I have a pair of Scarpa TX Pro tele boots that I am trying to lighten as much as possible. They are size 26.0. I have skied them with the stock Scarpa liner and with much lighter and thinner liner from my Atomic Backland Carbons (size 25.5). I have much more space with the Atomic liners and for the most part I like this although I don't think I would want to go any thinner than that. The Atomic liners are still over 200g each and I am hoping I can get more like 150g. I am thinking the Palau Tour Lite Pro might be good. Would a 26 fit best in the Scarpas? What is the actual outside length of these? What is the weight? Thanks
4/21/2022
Hey David,
Front stitch to rear stitch is 26cm, the overall length of the liner is 27cm. The Tour Lite Pro Evo is comparable to the stock Atomic Backland liner, perhaps just a smidge higher volume, so if you don't feel slop in the boot with the Backland liners then the Tour Lite Pro Evo should work well for you. You could save a little weight by going with the Tour Lite Pro which has the same fit with the only difference being that the cuff on the Pro Evo is higher volume and more rigid. The weight of the Tour Lite Pro Evo in a 26 is 157g and the weight of the Tour Lite Pro is 143g.
Front stitch to rear stitch is 26cm, the overall length of the liner is 27cm. The Tour Lite Pro Evo is comparable to the stock Atomic Backland liner, perhaps just a smidge higher volume, so if you don't feel slop in the boot with the Backland liners then the Tour Lite Pro Evo should work well for you. You could save a little weight by going with the Tour Lite Pro which has the same fit with the only difference being that the cuff on the Pro Evo is higher volume and more rigid. The weight of the Tour Lite Pro Evo in a 26 is 157g and the weight of the Tour Lite Pro is 143g.
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2/10/2022
Looking to replace my trashed 26.5 dynafit pro tour liners. would a 26.5 in these work perfect? My instep has barely enough room in the stock. Thanks!
2/11/2022
Thanks for reaching out, Kade. The Power LT would be the most comparable liner, and you should be able to get enough space over your instep after molding them.
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2/10/2022
Hi!
looking for a replacement liner for my PDG2. currently using a tlt8 custom light liner but still too much volume in the front foot. does these have more volume than the tlt8 CL, but still not too big in the upper calf? tested with the tlt8 CR liner and it was almost impossible to close the upper buckle.
looking for a replacement liner for my PDG2. currently using a tlt8 custom light liner but still too much volume in the front foot. does these have more volume than the tlt8 CL, but still not too big in the upper calf? tested with the tlt8 CR liner and it was almost impossible to close the upper buckle.
2/11/2022
Thanks for reaching out, Arne. It sounds like the Tour Lite Pro may be worth checking out. It will have more room in the calf than the tlt8 CR liner, and more volume in the forefoot than the ultralight liner. Please keep in mind the PDG2 is downsized, which means a 26.0/26.5 would have a shell size comparable to a 25.0/25.5. Therefore, you should get either a 25.0/25.5.
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1/25/2022
I have TLT7 expedition (so CR liner that is thicker than performance) and it is old/packed and needs to be replaced. 1.5 finger shell fit. Length is good but hoping to get less volume around the foot, so hoping a new liner will take up more space. Pro evo, Power LT, Pro Tour? Also, boot size is 27, is 27 is best for replacement liners? Thanks!
1/26/2022
Hey Jeremy, the Palau Tour Lite Pro Evo Liner in a size 27 should do just fine as a replacement.
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1/18/2022
Do these work with Atomic Backland Pro boots size 27/27.5?
1/19/2022
Hey Fes, the 27 Palau Tour Lite Pro Evo Liner should work quite well with the Atomic Backland Pro Boot! Give us a shout if you have any more questions!
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1/18/2022
Looks like these lite pro evo liners would be the most 1:1 replacement for the stock liners, and the power lt would be "one step up" in stiffness and volume (which is what I am after). Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!
1/18/2022
Hey Jasper, you are spot on! These are the ones we would probably recommend for the closest replacement to the stock liners, while the Power LT would provide increased stiffness and volume.
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12/22/2021
I have some Scarpa F1's that need new liners. I wanted the get the Scarpa liners but I can't find them in the correct size. Would these be a good option? What is the difference between these liners and the Scarpa liners?
12/22/2021
Hi Dustin,
These will be lower volume than the liners you are used to, particularly around the foot and upper cuff. I would recommend looking at the Intuition Pro Tour Liners. Intuition actually makes the liners for the F1 so it will be quite similar to the stock liner that comes with the boot.
These will be lower volume than the liners you are used to, particularly around the foot and upper cuff. I would recommend looking at the Intuition Pro Tour Liners. Intuition actually makes the liners for the F1 so it will be quite similar to the stock liner that comes with the boot.
12/22/2021
Thanks. Not a lot of sizes there either. I guess I’ll wait until those or the Scarpa ones are in stock.
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