Of course, the fastest skins in town are available on the roll. Get the new Super Glidey race formula from Pomoca in exactly the length you want. Then attach your favorite tip system, round the tails, and go race. Or train, tour, explore, whatever. The Race Pro 2.0 is the cheapest way to maximize the glide of your skimo racing skis. Available in 59mm, 62mm, 65mm, and 85mm widths.
ORDERING NOTE: These skins are sold by the centimeter (cm), meaning you should type in the Qty field the length (in cm) of skin you want for one ski “times two” for a PAIR. Unless you are making a backup skin, then just times it by one.
Questions & Reviews
I've been race skin "curious" for many years, but never tried them. Then this season I bought a pair of 1kg class skis and put superlight bindings on them. I went "Full Rando" ;) and bought race skins.
I had never used a race style tips, or used a skin without a tail fix.
I purchased 85mm Race Pro 2.0, trimmed width a little to fit BD Cirque 84 skis. I cut the length short of the tail, maybe 4/5 ski length.
First impressions: Holy cow these things glide. It's much better than standard 70/30 mix mohair skins like Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide, and not even comparable to full nylon skins from G3. The grip is less, but not that bad. The grip is more than enough if you're running a race-like binding that doesn't have a high heel riser anyway. If you're in a non-icy, but smooth skin track there's more than enough grip. Also, they are light and fold up really nice in a tiny backpack (never go Full Rando!)
After a few uses: Using these to actually break trail in powder is not fun. Not enough grip and the lack of a tail fix means they come off, especially when stuffing tails during kick turns. It's really frustrating if your tour has any short sections of snow plowing. Snow plowing a 50ft steep descent to cross a river ripped both my skins off my skis.
Also, I pulled the tip loops right off trying to rip skins. Replaced them with a home-brew setup with much thicker shock cord and burlier end bits. Still don't like it.
Impression after about 12 uses, including one short skimo race: These skins are very fragile. They are more worn down than my normal skins have ever been, even after *hundreds* of days. It's a bummer, but I guess they're called "race" skins, not bushwhack skins...and I did some of that. I have realized that after 20+ years of ripping my skins from the tails I just cannot be bothered to learn how to rip from the tip....I'm done with race tip fixes. I decided to make a new set of race skins, long enough to put a tail fix on them, and use a standard tip fix.....blasphemy to rando-nerds I'm sure.
- My 4/5 race skins with race tip fix and no tail fix = 291 grams, glides like a dream, and rolls up like a cinnamon bun....but does not fill my needs.
- My new set of full length race skins with a G3 minimal tip loop and standard G3 tail hook = 442 grams and glides almost as good, but grip is not improved. Will still be fragile, might be a silly idea.
- A set of Climb Pro S-glide skins I cut for the same skis = 429 grams (lighter than the race skins due to tip&tail hardware). They don't glide as well, but grip allows steep climbing in icy tracks, or breaking trail in old facets and wet glop. They roll up a bit bigger because they're stiffer. Also, the thicker skin is noticeable under the ski. Switching to a Free Pro would fix this.
Conclusion: Race Pro 2.0 skins are really awesome, but probably best for racers and resort uphillers. I'm going to keep using my front and rear fixed race skins for long traverses and skiing rolling hiking trails in Chugach, but they won't be added to any of my powder touring kits. I wish that race skin glide was available without all the other trade offs.
- Add a little extra glue to the tails. Gold Label on the last few inches does wonders for stickage. Also ensure the tails are rounded so there are no sharp corners for peeling to start from.
- Don't tip-rip by pulling on just the bungee, but rather use the bungee to remove the tip and grab a chunk of skin material.
- Avoid downhiling on re-frozen spring snow, that will wear the edges fairly quickly.
For the perfect blend of speed, traction, packability, and spring durability: going with a non-race mohair or mix material that is straight cut 10mm wider than the underfoot ski width is about perfect IMO. I'm ambivalent on tail clips, but using simple metal tail clasps and ripping from the tip is an extremely reliable and efficient system.
I just re-read my review and realize the words are more negative than I feel.
4 Stars is the important thing.
Race skins are awesome, and they're going to remain in my quiver. It's been a season of learning what their limits are.
I’m a big fan of straight(er) cut skins too, though I don’t go that narrow anymore.
10-15mm narrower than the tail width is usually how I buy my skins. They get an hourglass cut only under the middle ~1/3 of the length and they’re straight the rest of the way
I have OAC 147 cm skis (110 width), and I find the integrated skin is not enough to climb sometimes. Do you think I could cut out 2 pieces for each of my skis to put before and after the integrated skin ?
I saw you have wider skins in rolls also, what is the difference ? As it is not written 2.0 ?
This specific product listing is for skin material on a roll, which you could combine with any skin tip/tail attachments you want to create a custom setup. You don't have to remove skins for the descent(depending on slope angle, snow quality, and skin material), but most folks choose to because it slows them down too much and you can wear out skins faster. If you do choose to remove skins, you can do it a couple different ways: Skis on or skis off. Skis staying on can keep you floating on top of the powder easier, but requires flexibility and skill to rip skins from the tip/tail(depending on attachment hardware) while the ski is still attached to your foot. Taking skis off is simpler to learn and more comfortable for many, and you could take one off at a time to still maintain some flotation.
If you do consider this option, please let us know how it goes so we can inform other curious customers!
On a warm spring day I brought these for the approach but ended up using them more than intended when my primary skins wetted through and lost all adherence to my bases. They did a commendable job. I'd definitely use them again.
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