My ascension nylon skins come with a black mesh.
Is this in place of the skin saver or is there another use?
Black Diamond Skin Parts
BD skins have some of the best attachment systems around. They are simple and stand the test of time. Find replacement parts or build a new skin using the tools below.
Skin Tip Loop Kit - A double metal-bracket system that attaches your skins securely to the tips of your skis. Includes all necessary hardware.
Cord Tip Loop Kit - Seemingly-race-style elastic tip loop for use on skis with notched tips. Comes with attachment hardware, but you probably also need some washers and a knot to make it work well. Weird.
Ultralite Tip Loop Kit - BD's ultralight bar and rope system that affixes to skin tips with breakable screws. Includes hardware.
Tip Cables - Replacement flexible cables for the older (2019/20) Adjustable Loop tips, without attachment hardware. Available in Mini, Standard, and Oversized lengths.
Ski Skin Tail Kit - The tail strap, tail clips, and mounting hardware used on all BD skins starting from 2020/21. Tapered cut to reduce drag.
Ski Skin Tail Straps - Just the tail strap and clips that are used on 2020/21 and later BD skins (no hardware). Appears to be backward compatible with the older STS tail kits.
Ski Skin Tail Clips - A pair of metal clips from the Ski Skin Tail Kit. Functionally the same as the older STS tail clips so they will work as replacements.
Splitboard Tail Kit - Everything you need to make a skin affix to the tails of a splitboard.
Speed Tip Loop Kit - Tip fix for your skins using a race loop attachment.
STS Tip Loop Kit Standard - Tip fix attachment for your skins, including screws, wire attachment, padding and plastic attachments. Screws meant to connect both attachments and break off.
STS Tip Look Kit Narrow - Tip fix attachement for your skins with a wire attachment best suited for narrower and tappered tipped skis.
Cheat Sheets - AKA skin savers, these will keep your glue fresh and your skins easy to peel apart. Stick a skin to each side of the synthetic mesh and you will prevent getting dirt on your glue and needing a ton of upper body strength to separate your skins.
Gold Label Adhesive - Folks who work out their lower body more than their upper body often think Black Diamond Gold Label skin glue is too strong. Folks who have skins that fall off easily don’t care; they want the strongest and most durable glue around. The adhesive comes in a 2.8 fluid ounce (82 mL) bottle, enough to re-glue a pair of skins.
Drawstring Skin Bag - Simple nylon bag with breathable mesh panel for moisture to escape. Enclose your skins for safekeeping. Drawstring closure.
Zippered Skin Bag - Nylon bag with a zipper closure and a breathable mesh panel for moisture to escape.
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Questions & Reviews
1/1/2022
1/1/2022
Hey David,
That is the skin saver, yes. The Ascension skins come with those out of the box, as those skins are quite difficult to rip apart if you stick them to themselves.
That is the skin saver, yes. The Ascension skins come with those out of the box, as those skins are quite difficult to rip apart if you stick them to themselves.
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1/23/2021
I'm having a lot of trouble trying to pull the 2020 (larger and more triangular) skin tail through the slot between the metal plates. The plates are riveted before pulling the tail through, as indicated in the instructions. Any advice? for this reason I don't think these are backwards compatible with the STS skin clips.
1/26/2021
Joel- The new skin tails are not backward compatible with the old plates, unfortunately. The voile skin straps are narrower and may work in the old plates. You would have to change tail hooks with that tail system.
1/26/2021
I ended up trimming off parts of the new skin tail so I could pill it through the plate and make it work. It is not the cleanest solution but should hold up.
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11/1/2020
So I have broke several tail straps now on different BD skins (after hard use). But now to fix them, whats the best way to remove the rivets that have been pounded in?
after that, the replacement tail straps dont come with rivets unless you get the whole kit which seems like too much extra hardware.
Any thoughts?
after that, the replacement tail straps dont come with rivets unless you get the whole kit which seems like too much extra hardware.
Any thoughts?
11/2/2020
Hey William, thanks for reaching out. If you own an STS tail kit you should be able to extract the tail without removing any hardware by simply cutting the old/used tail to help remove them and then slide the unused STS tail strap into the hardware. If it's the new ski skin tail kit you will have to drill out the rivets to remove the hardware and then you can utilize the existing holes when mounting the new tail kit. Feel free to email us at help@skimo.co if you need more assistance.
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9/14/2020
It looks like "Ski Skin Tail Kit" comes with parts for 2 skins and "Skin Tip Loop Kit" only comes with parts for a single skin.
Is this correct?
Is this correct?
9/14/2020
Hello Logan, both the Ski Skin Tail Kit and Skin Tip Loop Kit come as a pair.
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3/19/2020
Is the black tail strap the same size as the orange one ( I need to replace a broken orange strap). Thanks!
3/19/2020
Justin, I believe so. I just counted 10 slots on my old Orange ones, and there is 10 slots on the black ones pictured.
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2/17/2020
Do the "STS Tail Straps" include the metal clips as the picture shows, or is it just the strap portion? And is it 2 straps?
2/17/2020
Sarah,
There are two straps and two metal tail clips included. Have fun out there!
Patrick // Skimo Co
There are two straps and two metal tail clips included. Have fun out there!
Patrick // Skimo Co
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12/1/2019
Do you carry just the screws which attach the tip loops to the skin or do know where I can get them?
12/1/2019
We have not been able to source those screws by themselves, but there’s a chance you could use just a small screw that has been filed or ground down at the tip.
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1/14/2019
If I order this now can you get it to me by Friday-01062
1/14/2019
Hi Joe, that depends on your location but if you select 2-day expedited shipping at checkout you will have it in time for sure (as long as we are shipping to you in the U.S.)
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12/6/2018
Any thoughts on the ultralight tip kit vs the old std adjustable tip loops?
I broke my Pomoca skin tip attachment -- the plastic just sheared right off when I accidentally knocked my ski tips together at the end of a kick turn my second day using them. I had switched to Pomoca skins for weight/packability/glide reasons, but never had any durability issues after many days on nylon BD skins, so I was gonna refit BD tip attachments on the Pomoca skins. (Yes, I know they have different hole patterns. Fortunately, there's enough skin length to recut the tip below the holes and reinstall a tip kit.) If it matters, ski dims are 116 90 106.
I broke my Pomoca skin tip attachment -- the plastic just sheared right off when I accidentally knocked my ski tips together at the end of a kick turn my second day using them. I had switched to Pomoca skins for weight/packability/glide reasons, but never had any durability issues after many days on nylon BD skins, so I was gonna refit BD tip attachments on the Pomoca skins. (Yes, I know they have different hole patterns. Fortunately, there's enough skin length to recut the tip below the holes and reinstall a tip kit.) If it matters, ski dims are 116 90 106.
12/7/2018
Hi Zak, for durability I would give the nod to the std adjustable loops.
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11/10/2018
Do you have the STS tail kit in orange or black?
11/10/2018
Hey Josh! Oh dang, looks like our pictures are outdated. Good catch. We haven't seen the orange kits for probably a year or more now and only have the black kits at the moment.
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5/16/2018
Do you have cheat sheets now? Thanks.
5/16/2018
Hey Deling! Nope, though it looks like we have some Contour sheets left!
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2/25/2018
I'm looking for spare tip cables for a 68mm in the shovel. Will the tip cables mini work for this?
2/26/2018
Hi Tom, you are correct, the mini cables are the ones you seek.
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2/16/2018
Are you going to get Adjustable Tip Loops soon? Thanks!
2/16/2018
Hey Deling! We have an order on the way at the moment actually! Should see them towards the beginning of next week!
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10/4/2017
The tip loops and tail kits - do they come in pairs or is it one skin's worth for each?
10/4/2017
Hi Shane, the tip and tail kits all come in pairs.
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5/29/2017
The be skin saver. Am I ordering a pair or just one?
5/30/2017
Hey Jay! There's a pair in the bag!
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4/10/2017
Do you have the BD tail kit in stock? It doesn't show up on the drop down menu.
Thx
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4/10/2017
Hi Mark, sorry, no. We won't see more of those until mid-May unfortunately.
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BD Gold Label is easy to use and stickier than some others out there. Originally I was intimidated by re-gluing skins because it seemed messy and time-consuming, but after trying it it's not bad at all. So far I haven't redone the glue on an entire pair of skins, just beefed up the tip and tail sections with Gold Label. Remove glue with a paper shopping bag + hot waxing iron (iron the paper, with skins stuck to the other side). This removes skin adhesive quickly and mess-free.
BD tip and tail attachments are easy to use and very secure. I prefer tail attachments for any non-race use so far, because the peace of mind that comes with adhesive + mechanical attachment on long tours or for mountaineering is far better. I haven't installed tail attachments, but the tip attachments are very easy to put on. 3 sharp #2 phillips head screws, then break off the excess with pliers. Make sure you turn them all the way in, otherwise you may not have many threads engaged when you break the screw off at the pre-scored point. Careful not to puncture your fingers - they're really sharp, as screws go (ask me how I know). ;)
BD tip and tail attachments are easy to use and very secure. I prefer tail attachments for any non-race use so far, because the peace of mind that comes with adhesive + mechanical attachment on long tours or for mountaineering is far better. I haven't installed tail attachments, but the tip attachments are very easy to put on. 3 sharp #2 phillips head screws, then break off the excess with pliers. Make sure you turn them all the way in, otherwise you may not have many threads engaged when you break the screw off at the pre-scored point. Careful not to puncture your fingers - they're really sharp, as screws go (ask me how I know). ;)
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Five Stars for BD Gold Label Adhesive: a spare tube of this is an absolute must for any skimo racer with our tail-less skinny mohair skins, often with relatively weak European skin glue. Even with strong glue, the tail end of the skin will take a beating since the lack of any tail attachment hardware means that the glue will be handled there much more. You can get in many touch-up renewal jobs with a single tube.
Major caution though: these fumes are serious, so use outdoors only (e.g., screened-in porch, or garage with all the bay doors open), unless you have an indoor workspace with real industrial ventilation. And although a desperate touch-up job can entail merely spreading on the glue (a disposal plastic utensil knife is good) and letting it dry overnight, the results are much better if you then follow the directions to lay on the release paper (which comes with BD skins, but apparently art stores sell similar parchment-like waxed paper) to ironing in the glue and then roll it in. (Don't bother trying to cover up your wife's baker rolling pin with aluminum foil and instead just buy a rolling pin dedicated to skin work -- worth it!)
The Adjustable Tip Loops and STS Tail Kit also merit Five Stars *if* you really feel the need to add full tip and tail hardware onto a skin (as opposed to using a simpler/lighter/cheaper race-type setup). I've had the STS straps on something like three pairs of skins: easy on, easy off, and easy to adjust, with a big adjustment range too. The tip loop is easy to screw onto a bare skin, and the adjustment range is huge (once you get the hang of sliding off the cover/bar, which is a very tight fit).
Major caution though: these fumes are serious, so use outdoors only (e.g., screened-in porch, or garage with all the bay doors open), unless you have an indoor workspace with real industrial ventilation. And although a desperate touch-up job can entail merely spreading on the glue (a disposal plastic utensil knife is good) and letting it dry overnight, the results are much better if you then follow the directions to lay on the release paper (which comes with BD skins, but apparently art stores sell similar parchment-like waxed paper) to ironing in the glue and then roll it in. (Don't bother trying to cover up your wife's baker rolling pin with aluminum foil and instead just buy a rolling pin dedicated to skin work -- worth it!)
The Adjustable Tip Loops and STS Tail Kit also merit Five Stars *if* you really feel the need to add full tip and tail hardware onto a skin (as opposed to using a simpler/lighter/cheaper race-type setup). I've had the STS straps on something like three pairs of skins: easy on, easy off, and easy to adjust, with a big adjustment range too. The tip loop is easy to screw onto a bare skin, and the adjustment range is huge (once you get the hang of sliding off the cover/bar, which is a very tight fit).
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