Hello!
I’m interested in these skins for my 154 cm voile hyperchargers. Of course, it would be nice to have some versatility in case I change skis to a more normal length for me (which is usually in the low 160s).
So, could I use the small size skin (155-170) or is the XS really the best option? I wish I wasn’t right at these end ranges!
Oh and secondarily, would you go Climb Pro S-Glide or Free Pro?
Thanks so much!
Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide Skins
We’re not sure but we think the “S” stands for “Super”. The new Pomoca Super treatment on the old reliable Climb Pro Glide skins makes them even better at sliding. The friction coefficient is now more akin to racing formulas than to similar mohair-mix skins. Good sliding technique will be rewarded with up to 20% energy savings on an average climb, a figure extrapolated from recent lab tests. The Climb Pro S-Glides are 70% mohair, 30% nylon, and 100% fast. The skins feature the manageable Pomoca glue formula and easy-to-use tip brackets and tail clips. These are likely the default skin choice for interested ski tourers.
- Safer Skin Light membrane is waterproof, tear-resistant, and tends to hold its hairs in place.
- Ever Dry 2.0 is a water-shedding treatment the prevents potentially heavy water soakage.
- S-Glide concoction is applied at the end to give you a lifelong friction-reducing stride.
- ClickLock is a tip system that allows you to swap square brackets to match your ski tips.
- Adjustable tail clips ride up and down a thick stretchy strap that is notched for good hold.
- Kits come with a trimmer that is much easier to use that the letter-opener style skin trimmers.
- Includes a skin bag for carrying your climbers and for long-term storage across seasons.
- Skins come with tips attached except Universal length, otherwise known as "Back Fix" in Pomoca-speak.
- Universal Kits - 185cm of material with tails attached; cut to ski length and attach the tips before trimming.
Update 2020/21: The S-Glide skins are now made with a thinner backing material and they have redesigned Click Lock tip attachments and tail hooks that enhance durability. The skins are about 40g lighter out of the box with the same grip and amazing glide. They now come in a zippered hard-case.
| Specifications | |
| Weight per skin (with backing) | 314g [120mm x 165-180] |
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10/12/2021
10/12/2021
Hey Molly,
I just pulled a set to see if the small might work for you and unfortunately it looks like it's just a tad too long for that Voile Hypercharger. As for which skin to go with, I personally love the packability of the Free Pro, as long as you're not planning to skin over too many obstacles that one is a great choice. However, if durability is key for you, the Climb Pro S-Glide will definitely hold up to a little bit more abuse.
I just pulled a set to see if the small might work for you and unfortunately it looks like it's just a tad too long for that Voile Hypercharger. As for which skin to go with, I personally love the packability of the Free Pro, as long as you're not planning to skin over too many obstacles that one is a great choice. However, if durability is key for you, the Climb Pro S-Glide will definitely hold up to a little bit more abuse.
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10/8/2021
What size s glide would you recommend for voile hyper vector 126-94-111?
Thanks!
Thanks!
10/8/2021
Hi Patrick, based on those dimensions it looks like you have the 171cm Hyper Vector, in which case I would recommend the 120mm x 165-180cm.
10/8/2021
Great! Sorry, forgot to put the length in my question. Thanks for the quick response!
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10/7/2021
I have got a pair of Rossignol Soul 7 HD @ 172cm, 136 - 106 - 126
Which one would you suggest 120mm × 165-180 or 140mm × 165-180
The Pomoca website suggests 130mm × 165-180
Which one would you suggest 120mm × 165-180 or 140mm × 165-180
The Pomoca website suggests 130mm × 165-180
10/7/2021
Hi Akhil
We typically size skins based on the tail width of skis, as very little traction comes from the tip of your ski, especially on a rockered ski like the Soul 7. I would recommend the 120mm width of Climb Pro S-Glide, as you will have full coverage underfoot, as well as mostly full coverage in the tail with 1mm of base material visible on each side. If you want the assurance of full coverage with the accompanied weight penalty, go for the 140mm!
We typically size skins based on the tail width of skis, as very little traction comes from the tip of your ski, especially on a rockered ski like the Soul 7. I would recommend the 120mm width of Climb Pro S-Glide, as you will have full coverage underfoot, as well as mostly full coverage in the tail with 1mm of base material visible on each side. If you want the assurance of full coverage with the accompanied weight penalty, go for the 140mm!
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9/27/2021
I'm looking for a replacement for a pair of Blizzard Zero G 85, 171cm. Would you recommend 100mm, 165-180cm? Thanks.
9/27/2021
Hey Deling,
Great question, I think the 100mm would be a precise fit as the tail of the ski measures in at 99.5mm. If that's a bit too close for comfort, then I'd suggest going for the 120mm as that'll provide a bit more wiggle room for the cutting of the skin.
Great question, I think the 100mm would be a precise fit as the tail of the ski measures in at 99.5mm. If that's a bit too close for comfort, then I'd suggest going for the 120mm as that'll provide a bit more wiggle room for the cutting of the skin.
9/27/2021
Thanks! Since it’s a lightweight setup, I will go with 100mm and reduce the coverage in the front.
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6/26/2021
What size would be best for DPS Pagoda Tour 106 C2 in the 179 length? 137/106/121
6/26/2021
Thanks for your question, Nick. I would go with the 120x175-190. If you wanted the same skin that is already precut for your ski, you can check out the DPS Precut skins here. The DPS skins are in stock and ready to ship! Please let us know if you have any other questions.
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6/7/2021
I did a dry fit of the Large (175-190) on a 189cm ski and I am at max adjustment length on the tail with little or nothing to grab (can't imagine this being easy with mittens on)
Is this how the tail is supposed to be with a 189ski for a Large Pomoca?
Also, this ski does not have a flat section for the clip and it does not grab well.
I live in SLC and can bring this by, wondering if maybe this is a medium? or something is wrong?
Is this how the tail is supposed to be with a 189ski for a Large Pomoca?
Also, this ski does not have a flat section for the clip and it does not grab well.
I live in SLC and can bring this by, wondering if maybe this is a medium? or something is wrong?
6/8/2021
Hey Evan, it does seem like you are at the latter end of the adjustment range for the large skin size. For future reference, it is usually a bit nicer to be in the middle of the adjustment range so in that case, the XL size would have been more ideal. Unfortunately, not all ski tails like to play nice with certain skin attachment systems but with proper tightening of the skin, it should stay on the tail bar reasonably well.
6/8/2021
Skins I've used in the past are usable at the ranges they specify (G3 and Atomic)
I guess it was foolish to think the ski lengths they recommend result in good configurations?
Seems a bit backward. Is there a good way to lengthen the strap?
I purchased this from SkiMo, and haven't cut them, any logic to waiting for XL to come in stock and swapping?
I guess it was foolish to think the ski lengths they recommend result in good configurations?
Seems a bit backward. Is there a good way to lengthen the strap?
I purchased this from SkiMo, and haven't cut them, any logic to waiting for XL to come in stock and swapping?
6/8/2021
Hi Evan, a good way to tweak the tail length is to swap the tip buckles. A wider buckle will let the skin sit further back on the ski, extending its reach. This is why Pomoca includes two sizes in some of their kits, and you can also buy them separately. Note Contour has some even wider ones (115mm) for oversize planks.
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2/23/2021
Hi!
I would like to buy this skin in order to use them on icy and steep terrain, but mainly on icy spring conditions. Are they the right chiose? I have 2 pair of race skis and I know it could seem strange but I want use this skin with my race ski since race skins are not so good when it's icy. Is it possible to fit the skins on the following ski? Atomic Backland UL 65 - 161 CM 93/65/78.5
Dynafit PDG - 161 CM 99/65/88
THANKSSSSS
I would like to buy this skin in order to use them on icy and steep terrain, but mainly on icy spring conditions. Are they the right chiose? I have 2 pair of race skis and I know it could seem strange but I want use this skin with my race ski since race skins are not so good when it's icy. Is it possible to fit the skins on the following ski? Atomic Backland UL 65 - 161 CM 93/65/78.5
Dynafit PDG - 161 CM 99/65/88
THANKSSSSS
2/23/2021
Hi Giacomo,
As a mohair-mix skin, the Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide will definitely be a step up in grip from a race skin. However, the trim to fit version does not come with a tip and tail attachment system that makes sense for a race ski. I would recommend doing a custom build using Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide Per CM, and Pomoca Top Fix Race Tips as an attachment. If you have any further questions, reach out to us at help@skimo.co
As a mohair-mix skin, the Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide will definitely be a step up in grip from a race skin. However, the trim to fit version does not come with a tip and tail attachment system that makes sense for a race ski. I would recommend doing a custom build using Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide Per CM, and Pomoca Top Fix Race Tips as an attachment. If you have any further questions, reach out to us at help@skimo.co
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2/18/2021
Jack G
(used product regularly)
I love the carpet and glue on these skins. They pack down small, are light, have fantastic glide, and the glue is great.
I do not like the attachment points. Without fail my partner and I will always deal with at least one, usually multiple, moments where the tail clip comes off on the skin track. Not the end of the world, but get annoying. I also don't enjoy how the tip attachment isn't fixed and slides side-to-side. Maybe there's a reason for this? I haven't figured it out and it just adds times having to adjust the attachment to be centered.
In the end, the attachment point issues don't detract enough to make these skins lose their place at the top of the podium among the competition. Just some things I think could be improved
I do not like the attachment points. Without fail my partner and I will always deal with at least one, usually multiple, moments where the tail clip comes off on the skin track. Not the end of the world, but get annoying. I also don't enjoy how the tip attachment isn't fixed and slides side-to-side. Maybe there's a reason for this? I haven't figured it out and it just adds times having to adjust the attachment to be centered.
In the end, the attachment point issues don't detract enough to make these skins lose their place at the top of the podium among the competition. Just some things I think could be improved
2/18/2021
Hi Jack, thanks for the feedback! Do you have twin tip skis by any chance? In that case, you can get (when in stock) the Twin Tip tail hooks to improve hold. The stock tail clip works best with flatter tails.
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I purchased these skins this season with the help and expertise of Jeff at Skimoco. They have worked just fine for me so far. They have good grip and glide, also the ice blue color is awesome! The tail clip isn't my favorite but that might be because I was so used to my old G3 skins. I realized that I needed to tighten the skins after getting them on my skis...which solved my frustration.
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I have about 75 days on these skins now. They grip well, have good glide, and seem to be durable as well. The waterproof treatment seems to be holding up as well.
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2/15/2021
Paul
(used product regularly)
Wanted to like them. But...tail clips are junk. And the stitching came out on both tail pieces so got those resewn. The plastic holding the metal tip bale broke on both, so bye bye bales, hello duct tape. Climb is mediocre, glue the same. Glide is really the only good thing. All in all, blech
2/15/2021
Hi Paul, couldn't find an order from you, otherwise we'd be happy to send you a pair from this season with the new tips and tails. It sounds like you might be putting them on under lots of tension? That can cause tips, tails, material, and glue to fail.
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Pomoca skins are amazing and these are my favorite. I converted from BD skins to Pomoca a few years ago and haven’t looked back once. The glide is just too good and the glue has held up super well. They also seems to dry really fast. My only complaint is there sizing is hard to figure out medium, small, large? What does it mean?
2/10/2021
Thanks for the feedback, Travis! Agreed on the sizing, that's why we list them in the drop down with centimeter length ranges instead of the rather meaningless S/M/L.
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I love these skins.
I went from Dynafit mohair mix to bd nylon and to these.
By far the best of the bunch. The glue is in all the right spots to rip off with ease. BD skins are crap. I love how well they fold in my jacket. Was a bit torn between these and the race 2.0s and glad I went with these. All the bells and whistles in terms of treatment on these.
They grip really well still. Better than my buddies with nylons at times. The glide is wayy better. Highly recommend them even with the steep tracks we get in the Wasatch.
I went from Dynafit mohair mix to bd nylon and to these.
By far the best of the bunch. The glue is in all the right spots to rip off with ease. BD skins are crap. I love how well they fold in my jacket. Was a bit torn between these and the race 2.0s and glad I went with these. All the bells and whistles in terms of treatment on these.
They grip really well still. Better than my buddies with nylons at times. The glide is wayy better. Highly recommend them even with the steep tracks we get in the Wasatch.
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1/25/2021
Hey :)
I've read through most of the "length-related" comments, but just wanted to be sure: Will the M size (165-180cm) skin fit onto my Kästle TX98 178cm (128/98/117)? and which width would you recommend?
At the moment I'm using a Colltex Palü that has been mounted by a ski shop here in switzerland and they used a 170cm skin, so I only got around 2-3cm of "strap" (photo) to tighten the end hook, thats why I'm thinking about getting a new skin.
Since I normally use my light race skis I'm a bit more on the uphill side and sliding characteristics are somewhat important to me ;-). And since the pomoca allows to put glue side on glue side, this seems another plus to me. Do you have further experience how these two skins compare?
Thanks and stay safe!
Cheers Manuel
I've read through most of the "length-related" comments, but just wanted to be sure: Will the M size (165-180cm) skin fit onto my Kästle TX98 178cm (128/98/117)? and which width would you recommend?
At the moment I'm using a Colltex Palü that has been mounted by a ski shop here in switzerland and they used a 170cm skin, so I only got around 2-3cm of "strap" (photo) to tighten the end hook, thats why I'm thinking about getting a new skin.
Since I normally use my light race skis I'm a bit more on the uphill side and sliding characteristics are somewhat important to me ;-). And since the pomoca allows to put glue side on glue side, this seems another plus to me. Do you have further experience how these two skins compare?
Thanks and stay safe!
Cheers Manuel
1/25/2021
Thanks for your question, Manuel! The medium size will definitely work. We typically base the width of skin off your tail dimension, as such we would recommend the 120 width! Let us know if you have any other questions!
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1/15/2021
Hi,
What width and length Pomoca skin would be the best fit for a 168 cm Stockli Edge 100. Dimensions are 136-100-125.
Cheers!
Mike
What width and length Pomoca skin would be the best fit for a 168 cm Stockli Edge 100. Dimensions are 136-100-125.
Cheers!
Mike
1/15/2021
Hi Michael,
Based on the tail width and length of your ski, I would recommend the Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide in the 120mm x 165cm-180cm size. However, we do not currently have that size in stock. Reach out to us at help@skimo.co, and we would be happy to chat other options!
Based on the tail width and length of your ski, I would recommend the Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide in the 120mm x 165cm-180cm size. However, we do not currently have that size in stock. Reach out to us at help@skimo.co, and we would be happy to chat other options!
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1/11/2021
I've got a pair of 181cm black crows Ferox Freebirds and a set of these skins in size 120mm-M. Any chance they'll work together, or nah?
1/12/2021
Hey Bobby, if you currently have both the skis and the skins, why don't you line them up with the skin protector on to see if they work? I'd say those Freebirds are right at the edge of the adjustment range in the medium length. Without actually looking at them on the ski I can't say for sure if they'll work or not, but I'm tentatively hopeful they could just barely fit.
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I was hoping for slightly better glide but compared to a skin like the BD Acension skins these do glide easier and seem to climb just about anything. They also pack much smaller and the tip/tail connecter seems super easy to set. I may give the pink ones a try but these are definitely the way to go if you're looking for a super versatile do everything skin.
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1/7/2021
Is it possible to change the tip of these skins so they fit a notched tip?
1/7/2021
Hey Scott, yes it is possible. With the new Pomoca skins you can actually just pop out a section of the plastic tip and put in one of the hard rubber Dynafit tips that should suffice.
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1/6/2021
Will you get more of the 140 width 175-190cm length skins in any time soon?
1/6/2021
Sorry Kellen, those are tapped for the season.
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1/3/2021
Recently purchased these skins from you. I LOVE these skins and am now piecing together a setup for my daughter. My next question is;
Will the smallest size Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide (100mm x 165-180cm) fit the Blizzard Zero G 85 164cm ski?
TIA!
Will the smallest size Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide (100mm x 165-180cm) fit the Blizzard Zero G 85 164cm ski?
TIA!
1/4/2021
Hi Michael, thanks for the feedback! I agree the Pomoca skins are the bees knees. That size would be a touch long, but as luck would have it, the Blizzard Precut skins are made by Pomoca so they are also great!
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