Hi there. I’m looking at a pair of these for some Ski Logik Rock Stars in a 178cm length. Specs are 142/117/141. I was thinking I’d order the 140mm in the 175-190 length.
I also have a Ski Logik Powderball 188cm (144-112-133) but suspect I need a second pair given the narrower tail if I cut these for the Rock Stars.
Make sense to you?
Thank you!
Ben
Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide Skins
We’re not sure but we think the “S” stands for “Super”. The new Pomoca Super treatment on the old reliable Climb Pro Glide skins makes them even better at sliding. The friction coefficient is now more akin to racing formulas than to similar mohair-mix skins. Good sliding technique will be rewarded with up to 20% energy savings on an average climb, a figure extrapolated from recent lab tests. The Climb Pro S-Glides are 70% mohair, 30% nylon, and 100% fast. The skins feature the manageable Pomoca glue formula and easy-to-use tip brackets and tail clips. These are likely the default skin choice for interested ski tourers.
- Safer Skin Light membrane is waterproof, tear-resistant, and tends to hold its hairs in place.
- Ever Dry 2.0 is a water-shedding treatment that prevents potentially heavy water soakage.
- S-Glide concoction is applied at the end to give you a lifelong friction-reducing stride.
- ClickLock is a tip system that allows you to swap square brackets to match your ski tips.
- Adjustable tail clips ride up and down a thick stretchy strap that is notched for a good hold.
- Kits come with a trimmer that is much easier to use than the letter-opener style skin trimmers.
- Includes a skin bag for carrying your climbers and for long-term storage across seasons.
- Skins come with tips attached (except Universal length), otherwise known as "Back Fix" in Pomoca-speak.
- Universal Kits - 185cm of material with tails attached; cut to ski length and attach the 85mm or 95mm wide tip buckles (both included) before trimming.
- No Tips - A Universal Kit without the tip hardware...attach race bungees or your favorite touring tips.
Update 2020/21: The S-Glide skins are now made with thinner backing material and they have redesigned Click Lock tip attachments and tail hooks that enhance durability. The skins are about 40g lighter out of the box with the same grip and amazing glide. They now come in a zippered hard case.
Update 2024/25: Pomoca is phasing these out in favor of new tip and tail hardware on the renamed Tour Pro skins.
| Specifications | |
| Weight per skin (with backing) | 314g [120mm x 165-180] |
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12/13/2022
12/13/2022
Hi Ben, that's right for the Rock Star sizing. It's possible you could cut the skins for the Powderballs and still use them for the Rock Stars; they wouldn't be perfectly dialed but still plenty of coverage for climbing powder (might have to use a bit more pole on tricky spots). We are always mix and matching skins around here on demo skis and I think most folks would be surprised what you can get away with for coverage and still make it up the hill, especially with good skinning technique.
1/16/2023
Yeah, some of my skins are just straight untrimmed strips, about ski waist width. They seem to work just fine for me. I've been on a few hair-raising steep traverses where you don't even get the whole width of ski flat, and haven't had any more trouble than my buddies with wall to wall skins.
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12/12/2022
I have a pair of Salomon MTN 95, 177cm.
Which skin should I order?
Thanks!
Which skin should I order?
Thanks!
12/12/2022
Jim,
Grab a set of the 120mm 165-180cm skins would be my suggestion. A little less coverage on the tail won't affect grip, but can add a touch of glide!
Grab a set of the 120mm 165-180cm skins would be my suggestion. A little less coverage on the tail won't affect grip, but can add a touch of glide!
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9/19/2022
My suggested size is 130 mm. My skis are 164 cm (131 - 106 - 122). Wondering what size is recommended, thank you!
9/19/2022
Hey Claire, we usually use the tail width as a quick size guide. So a 122mm tail I would recommend the 120mm x 155-170cm.
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These are the best skins you can get on the market right now. The glue is better than G3 skins, the mohair mix glides better than the BD skins, and packs up super well.
Used these skins from midwinter pow to hardpack snow/ice. Based in the PNW, so the warmer temps and wet snow did saturate these skins in the late spring, but they've held up in every condition otherwise. Glopped up once, but problem went away after using skin wax.
I've never had a problem with the tail clip unlike many others here, but I did have to file a notch in the tail of my skis so that the tail clips didn't slip off laterally. The bar up at the tips are bent, and the "PO MO CA" panel did come off, but these are cosmetic issues. Also, the cutter isn't good enough for more than one use I've found.
Overall, I love these skins and would buy them again. Maybe I'll go with the pink race ones for fatter skis for better packability, but I would be just as happy with these ones too.
Used these skins from midwinter pow to hardpack snow/ice. Based in the PNW, so the warmer temps and wet snow did saturate these skins in the late spring, but they've held up in every condition otherwise. Glopped up once, but problem went away after using skin wax.
I've never had a problem with the tail clip unlike many others here, but I did have to file a notch in the tail of my skis so that the tail clips didn't slip off laterally. The bar up at the tips are bent, and the "PO MO CA" panel did come off, but these are cosmetic issues. Also, the cutter isn't good enough for more than one use I've found.
Overall, I love these skins and would buy them again. Maybe I'll go with the pink race ones for fatter skis for better packability, but I would be just as happy with these ones too.
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4/7/2022
Can these bit fit with Dynafit style attachments at tip and tail?
4/8/2022
Josh, Short answer, no.
The ClickLock tip can accept a Dynafit rubber tip, but the attached tail strap is fixed and the skin would be too short to cut it off and add a fixed tail clip.
If you want to build a Dynafit style skin, it is best to custom build it, rather than start with a Trim to Fit skin. You can email us at help@skimo.co for details!
The ClickLock tip can accept a Dynafit rubber tip, but the attached tail strap is fixed and the skin would be too short to cut it off and add a fixed tail clip.
If you want to build a Dynafit style skin, it is best to custom build it, rather than start with a Trim to Fit skin. You can email us at help@skimo.co for details!
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I've had these skins (the 21' update version) for just over a year now and have put about 200k vert on them in that time (used with Volkl Rise High 88s). I have used them in waist deep pow, on glaciers, in spring corn, wind scoured ridge tops and everything in between.
Three things really stand out for me; glide, weight and size.
The things can slide. They glide so well that you can actually lock your heel down and ski short pitches with the skins still on and not have it be one of the worst skiing experiences of your life. On long approaches over frozen lakes and the like, I feel almost like a proper nordic skier, driving off my rear foot and never coming to a rest, full glide, no brakes.
The weight? Not quite "race" skin light but still, really good. I weighed them when I first got them, did some math and compared them to some BCA hybrid skins and figured out that per sq/cm, they were significantly lighter, in the range of 20%.
Size. These pack down really small. I've found I can easily stuff them into my pants pockets when skiing jacket free on warm days. I really appreciate a skin that is small enough I just don't think about it on the way down if it's in my jacket.
The one big issue is the tail clip. It sucks, we all know it but it's a super easy fix. I got a metal U-clip (used for attaching automobile trim), sized the tail and then put the clip around the rubber so it sits flush with the tail clip. This prevents the rubber from pulling through, keeps a constant tension and if I ever need to remove it, easy to pop it off.
Bottom line, this is a perfect skin for bigger days/long approaches. If you only care about grip and going up steep skinners, maybe try something that's a bit more climb focused.
Three things really stand out for me; glide, weight and size.
The things can slide. They glide so well that you can actually lock your heel down and ski short pitches with the skins still on and not have it be one of the worst skiing experiences of your life. On long approaches over frozen lakes and the like, I feel almost like a proper nordic skier, driving off my rear foot and never coming to a rest, full glide, no brakes.
The weight? Not quite "race" skin light but still, really good. I weighed them when I first got them, did some math and compared them to some BCA hybrid skins and figured out that per sq/cm, they were significantly lighter, in the range of 20%.
Size. These pack down really small. I've found I can easily stuff them into my pants pockets when skiing jacket free on warm days. I really appreciate a skin that is small enough I just don't think about it on the way down if it's in my jacket.
The one big issue is the tail clip. It sucks, we all know it but it's a super easy fix. I got a metal U-clip (used for attaching automobile trim), sized the tail and then put the clip around the rubber so it sits flush with the tail clip. This prevents the rubber from pulling through, keeps a constant tension and if I ever need to remove it, easy to pop it off.
Bottom line, this is a perfect skin for bigger days/long approaches. If you only care about grip and going up steep skinners, maybe try something that's a bit more climb focused.
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1/29/2022
Do the tip and tail attachment that come with these work on splitboards? If not, what's the right Pomoca skin to get that works with one? I'd be fine with buying by the cm and getting tip/tail attachments separately. thanks!
1/30/2022
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Out of the 4 skins I've owned (BD Mix, BD Nylon, Ski Trab WC, and now the Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide) these are my favorite. I've had zero problems with them after 30+ days on them this season. Great mix of traction and glide. They come off the skis easily when it's time to rip. I run them with Dynafit rubber tips and the tail clips cut off. Highly recommend.
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1/4/2022
my wife has Helio 105's......131-105-118 that are 164 long....what size skin??
1/4/2022
Thanks for reaching out, Svcci! I'd go with the "120mm x 155-170cm" option. Please let us know if you have any other questions!
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For the price I really want to love these, but so far they are a disappointment. First time out in cold new snow had some of the worst glopping I've ever seen. Skin appeared dry but snow kept sticking. Wife was on 5 year old Ascensions with bad glue and no glop at all.
2nd and 3rd trip no glop, but struggled to grip in track while wife on the old skins motored along.
As others have said, tail attachment sucks, too wide for tail notch, will probably trim that. Weight, packability, and glide are great, but if you need to stick in a steep track and ski fresh snow they aren't so great. Glue seems ok, but I'm now sceptical on how it will hold up.
Overall not impressed for the price. Probably return to BD skins, hate the weight, but hate sliding backwards worse.
2nd and 3rd trip no glop, but struggled to grip in track while wife on the old skins motored along.
As others have said, tail attachment sucks, too wide for tail notch, will probably trim that. Weight, packability, and glide are great, but if you need to stick in a steep track and ski fresh snow they aren't so great. Glue seems ok, but I'm now sceptical on how it will hold up.
Overall not impressed for the price. Probably return to BD skins, hate the weight, but hate sliding backwards worse.
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12/31/2021
Hi - I ski the Moment Bella 2020
(134-108-127)
162 cm
The Pomoca site suggests Skin Size
130mm-S, but I do not see that size available anywhere. Is there another size that would work for that ski?
Thanks so much!
(134-108-127)
162 cm
The Pomoca site suggests Skin Size
130mm-S, but I do not see that size available anywhere. Is there another size that would work for that ski?
Thanks so much!
12/31/2021
Hi Ann,
Based on your ski dimension, I would go with the 140mm x 155-170cm size. If you have further questions on skins, feel free to reach out to us at help@skimo.co!
Based on your ski dimension, I would go with the 140mm x 155-170cm size. If you have further questions on skins, feel free to reach out to us at help@skimo.co!
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12/19/2021
Do the tip clips that come installed on these allow for the swap to notch tip connector? Or is that a separate thing?
12/19/2021
Hi Jen, you're on the right track, it's designed to work that way. You have to remove a bit of semi-breakaway plastic to enable the Z hook connector to be inserted.
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These are (in my opinion) the best skins out there. The glue is the best in the business - they stick to your skis, but are still easy to tear apart from each other when stored glue-to-glue. The plush is also some of the best around, with really good glide for how grippy the skins are.
The only thing stopping these from getting 5 stars in my books is the tip and tail attachment hardware. The tip is fine (but I prefer a race style bungee, so replaced it with that) but the tail clip sucks... It comes off relatively easily and breaks easily. I replaced mine with a G3 tail clip, which greatly improves the functionality. I wish Pomoca would include a better tail clip with these.
The only thing stopping these from getting 5 stars in my books is the tip and tail attachment hardware. The tip is fine (but I prefer a race style bungee, so replaced it with that) but the tail clip sucks... It comes off relatively easily and breaks easily. I replaced mine with a G3 tail clip, which greatly improves the functionality. I wish Pomoca would include a better tail clip with these.
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11/16/2021
What size would you recommend for a 176cm DPS Wailer 99 (125-99-111)? The Pomoca website suggests 120mm in size L, but it looks like size M would also work. Thanks in advance!
11/16/2021
Hey Chris,
Your intuition is spot on, size M (167-180cm) in a 120mm width is definitely the way to go for that ski!
Your intuition is spot on, size M (167-180cm) in a 120mm width is definitely the way to go for that ski!
11/16/2021
Thanks for the quick response!
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I do absolutely love the weight, glue and grip/glide balance of these skins. Certainly the most versatile skin in the game in my opinion. The only downside i've experience with them after extensive use last season is that the Click Lock attachments for the tips (the seeming updated 20/21 versions) are not very durable and prone to breaking and the cover becoming lost. One of mine snapped off along with the bending of the tip attachment bar during what felt like a normal skin rip maybe 30 days in. As such, I ended up replacing the tip attachments on both skins with the BD Ultralight Tip Loop kit. This has improved the durability of the skin for good for myself, it would appear. Consider this when buying this skin!
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I've used a lot of different skins in 23 years of bc skiing. The Climb Pro S-Glides are my favorite so far. Great glue, good balance of grip and slide, don't soak up much water.
The Freerides pack smaller, if you use huge skis. Any brand's race model might glide better....but if you're generally skinning for powder turns and/or "free touring" these are great.
except, I don't like the Pomoca trim tool. It doesn't offset enough. I still use the G3 offset trim tool, it's the best.
The Freerides pack smaller, if you use huge skis. Any brand's race model might glide better....but if you're generally skinning for powder turns and/or "free touring" these are great.
except, I don't like the Pomoca trim tool. It doesn't offset enough. I still use the G3 offset trim tool, it's the best.
1/4/2022
I had the same issue with the tool, not as much offset as I wanted.
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10/12/2021
Hello!
I’m interested in these skins for my 154 cm voile hyperchargers. Of course, it would be nice to have some versatility in case I change skis to a more normal length for me (which is usually in the low 160s).
So, could I use the small size skin (155-170) or is the XS really the best option? I wish I wasn’t right at these end ranges!
Oh and secondarily, would you go Climb Pro S-Glide or Free Pro?
Thanks so much!
I’m interested in these skins for my 154 cm voile hyperchargers. Of course, it would be nice to have some versatility in case I change skis to a more normal length for me (which is usually in the low 160s).
So, could I use the small size skin (155-170) or is the XS really the best option? I wish I wasn’t right at these end ranges!
Oh and secondarily, would you go Climb Pro S-Glide or Free Pro?
Thanks so much!
10/12/2021
Hey Molly,
I just pulled a set to see if the small might work for you and unfortunately it looks like it's just a tad too long for that Voile Hypercharger. As for which skin to go with, I personally love the packability of the Free Pro, as long as you're not planning to skin over too many obstacles that one is a great choice. However, if durability is key for you, the Climb Pro S-Glide will definitely hold up to a little bit more abuse.
I just pulled a set to see if the small might work for you and unfortunately it looks like it's just a tad too long for that Voile Hypercharger. As for which skin to go with, I personally love the packability of the Free Pro, as long as you're not planning to skin over too many obstacles that one is a great choice. However, if durability is key for you, the Climb Pro S-Glide will definitely hold up to a little bit more abuse.
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10/8/2021
What size s glide would you recommend for voile hyper vector 126-94-111?
Thanks!
Thanks!
10/8/2021
Hi Patrick, based on those dimensions it looks like you have the 171cm Hyper Vector, in which case I would recommend the 120mm x 165-180cm.
10/8/2021
Great! Sorry, forgot to put the length in my question. Thanks for the quick response!
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10/7/2021
I have got a pair of Rossignol Soul 7 HD @ 172cm, 136 - 106 - 126
Which one would you suggest 120mm × 165-180 or 140mm × 165-180
The Pomoca website suggests 130mm × 165-180
Which one would you suggest 120mm × 165-180 or 140mm × 165-180
The Pomoca website suggests 130mm × 165-180
10/7/2021
Hi Akhil
We typically size skins based on the tail width of skis, as very little traction comes from the tip of your ski, especially on a rockered ski like the Soul 7. I would recommend the 120mm width of Climb Pro S-Glide, as you will have full coverage underfoot, as well as mostly full coverage in the tail with 1mm of base material visible on each side. If you want the assurance of full coverage with the accompanied weight penalty, go for the 140mm!
We typically size skins based on the tail width of skis, as very little traction comes from the tip of your ski, especially on a rockered ski like the Soul 7. I would recommend the 120mm width of Climb Pro S-Glide, as you will have full coverage underfoot, as well as mostly full coverage in the tail with 1mm of base material visible on each side. If you want the assurance of full coverage with the accompanied weight penalty, go for the 140mm!
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9/27/2021
I'm looking for a replacement for a pair of Blizzard Zero G 85, 171cm. Would you recommend 100mm, 165-180cm? Thanks.
9/27/2021
Hey Deling,
Great question, I think the 100mm would be a precise fit as the tail of the ski measures in at 99.5mm. If that's a bit too close for comfort, then I'd suggest going for the 120mm as that'll provide a bit more wiggle room for the cutting of the skin.
Great question, I think the 100mm would be a precise fit as the tail of the ski measures in at 99.5mm. If that's a bit too close for comfort, then I'd suggest going for the 120mm as that'll provide a bit more wiggle room for the cutting of the skin.
9/27/2021
Thanks! Since it’s a lightweight setup, I will go with 100mm and reduce the coverage in the front.
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