Hi, interested in the Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide skins for my pair of Elan Ibex 84 XLTs (170cm) for a fast and light backcountry set-up. Since my skis are notched in the front, I would replace the stock Pomoca square tip ring with a rubber bungie -- perhaps the Dynafit one. Given this customization, would it make sense to order 100cm X 175-190mm skin kit? Also, do you have the Dynafit Rubber Tips and Tip Plates in stock?
Alternatively, is there a pre-cut Dynafit Speedskins (Speed 90 176cm?) that, with minor trimming, could fit the Elan?
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Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide Skins
We’re not sure but we think the “S” stands for “Super”. The new Pomoca Super treatment on the old reliable Climb Pro Glide skins makes them even better at sliding. The friction coefficient is now more akin to racing formulas than to similar mohair-mix skins. Good sliding technique will be rewarded with up to 20% energy savings on an average climb, a figure extrapolated from recent lab tests. The Climb Pro S-Glides are 70% mohair, 30% nylon, and 100% fast. The skins feature the manageable Pomoca glue formula and easy-to-use tip brackets and tail clips. These are likely the default skin choice for interested ski tourers.
- Safer Skin Light membrane is waterproof, tear-resistant, and tends to hold its hairs in place.
- Ever Dry 2.0 is a water-shedding treatment that prevents potentially heavy water soakage.
- S-Glide concoction is applied at the end to give you a lifelong friction-reducing stride.
- ClickLock is a tip system that allows you to swap square brackets to match your ski tips.
- Adjustable tail clips ride up and down a thick stretchy strap that is notched for a good hold.
- Kits come with a trimmer that is much easier to use than the letter-opener style skin trimmers.
- Includes a skin bag for carrying your climbers and for long-term storage across seasons.
- Skins come with tips attached (except Universal length), otherwise known as "Back Fix" in Pomoca-speak.
- Universal Kits - 185cm of material with tails attached; cut to ski length and attach the 85mm or 95mm wide tip buckles (both included) before trimming.
- No Tips - A Universal Kit without the tip hardware...attach race bungees or your favorite touring tips.
Update 2020/21: The S-Glide skins are now made with thinner backing material and they have redesigned Click Lock tip attachments and tail hooks that enhance durability. The skins are about 40g lighter out of the box with the same grip and amazing glide. They now come in a zippered hard case.
| Specifications | |
| Weight per skin (with backing) | 314g [120mm x 165-180] |
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3/2/2018
3/2/2018
Hi Xavier, yes it makes sense to get a longer skin if you are chopping off the tip. We have the skin parts available here (noting it's easier to rivet the rubber tips versus sewing on the tip plate). If you want the swappable tip plate, it's easiest to buy a Dynafit skin and chop off the tails, re-adding some tail hooks.
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2/28/2018
norm larson
(used product regularly)
Hands down the best skins I've used in 40 years of backcountry skiing. Took about 10 days for the skins to break in and the glide to get good. Great glue and backing makes these skins really great to use on a daily basis.
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2/26/2018
I prefer straight skins. What size would you recommend for 175 cm BD Helio 105's?
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2/27/2018
Hey Eric. By that notion you'd take the waist width and subtract about 3mm, so in a perfect world you'd need a 102mm wide skin. The 100mm is the closest to that, but you may end up with some side hilling issues because there'd be a lot of edge exposed. The 120mm is for sure my preferred width in this scenario though.
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2/20/2018
How wide is the loop on the 120mm skin? Is it replaceable if I buy a different loop? Thanks.
2/20/2018
Hey Deling! Yeah, they're replaceable! Find them here. The loops included on the 120mm skins though are 95mm and 85mm wide.
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2/18/2018
Would the pomoca climb pro s-glide 140mm 170mm be the size for my dynafit denali 176's (131-98-116) ?
I think they make a 130mm also but haven't found any and wondering if i could trim the 140 to 130.
any reason to go with the 100% mohairs if the s-glide glides as good ?
I think they make a 130mm also but haven't found any and wondering if i could trim the 140 to 130.
any reason to go with the 100% mohairs if the s-glide glides as good ?
2/18/2018
Hi Mike, you'd need the ones that go up to 180mm for that ski. Either the 120mm or 140mm would work, with the 140 covering every square millimeter; you need to trim either. Not a huge argument for the mohair as compared to the S-Glide.
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1/24/2018
I ski the BD Carbon Megawatt 178cm. The ski dimensions are 147-120-127. Would you recommend the 140mm x 175-190cm skins then?
1/25/2018
Hi Luke, yeah that would net you max coverage. You could also get away with the shorter version if you want to show more base at the tails.
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1/24/2018
I have Fischer Hannnibal 94 skis, LENGTH 169, SIDECUT126-96-114. What size of POMOCA CLIMB PRO S-GLIDE SKINS to buy? Thank you
1/24/2018
Hi Vladimir, you'll want to buy the 120mm x 165-180.
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1/24/2018
I have Voile Vectors in 180 cm, would the 120 mm width offer enough coverage? I realize this should be an obvious question, just looking for some validation.
1/24/2018
Hi Patrick, 120mm will absolutely give you the coverage you are looking for. We typically suggest to our customers to buy a skin wide enough to cover the tail width of the ski completely.
Sizing your skin this way ensures that you will get the most grip possible without having excess coverage and reduced glide in the tip.
Sizing your skin this way ensures that you will get the most grip possible without having excess coverage and reduced glide in the tip.
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10/30/2017
I have a pair of 183cm Voile V6. Size recommendation?
10/30/2017
Hey Jake, thanks for reaching out. The V6 fits between the two widths I'd recommend, so really you can go either way. The 120mm width will cover the tail, but leave a bit of base material exposed at the tip. With how much tip rocker is on the V6, this will actually come as a benefit when breaking trail in deep snow and have no adverse effects with grip on hard snow. The 140mm width will give you full edge to edge coverage along the entire ski if you feel like you need it. The 175-190cm length is what I'd be shooting for with your ski.
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9/7/2017
Two questions?
Can you get a Dynafit Speedskin attachment to work on these skins? I noticed you sell the rubber end piece but it was unclear if it comes with the plastic piece that attaches to the skin.
Do you have them?
Thanks for the help.
Can you get a Dynafit Speedskin attachment to work on these skins? I noticed you sell the rubber end piece but it was unclear if it comes with the plastic piece that attaches to the skin.
Do you have them?
Thanks for the help.
9/9/2017
Hi Randall, technically no, the rubber tips do not fit in the S-Glide tip system. However, you can cut off the whole system and then attach the rubber tips. The attachment plates for the rubber tips are currently out of stock, though it's typically easier to attach the rubber tips by simply folding the skin over the bar and riveting with skin rivets. The tip attachment plates need to be sewn on, but they do allow easy swapping of tips if one were to break.
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4/26/2017
What size would you recommend for a 2014 184 cm Volkl Mantra?
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4/26/2017
Hi Daniel, 120mm 175-190cm. We are currently out of stock but have more on the way. If you prefer to order this skin immediately, the 140mm 175-190cm size would work as well. It will provide complete coverage, and is currently in stock.
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3/8/2017
If my skis are 166 should I get Pomona Climb Pro S -Glide skins in a small or medium length?
3/8/2017
Hi Karen, either will likely work, so it's a preference of whether you want skin coverage all the way to the tail. That area doesn't help much with grip so I prefer going shorter for what it's worth.
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I have been using these with my all-round/power skis (Movement Shift) for 3rd season now. Overall, I am very happy with these as the glide is great for such a wide skin yet the grip is sufficient as well unless you have a really bad technique.
I would give these 4.5 mark due to the tail attachment as it is not tight enough. However, I am used to race skins without tails so this is not a big issue.
The glue is still good although showing signs of leaving some residue/glue on skins occasionally now. Could be that they are getting tired of me after so many days in the backcountry.
I would give these 4.5 mark due to the tail attachment as it is not tight enough. However, I am used to race skins without tails so this is not a big issue.
The glue is still good although showing signs of leaving some residue/glue on skins occasionally now. Could be that they are getting tired of me after so many days in the backcountry.
12/12/2016
Hi Stano, you likely have the old rainbow tail straps? Pomoca has updated those since, they have nice stops on the strap that seem to work well.
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12/2/2016
Will the ski tip loops that come with these skins fit Voile V6 188cm long?
12/2/2016
Hi Shawn, the wider versions come with wider tips. In short, yes.
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These are rediculous. Maybe the holy grail of daily touring skins.
(Note, see bottom for a gripe, though they transcend my griping and earn 5 stars anyways).
Tip attachement: Durable, replaceable, came with two sizes of wire that should fit essentially any ski. Much less fiddly than anything I've used from black diamond.
Glide: Crazy good. While it's not a pomoca worldcup skimo race skin, the same technology is hiding in there, just with a waterproof backing and some more durable plush. These crush any non-race skins that I've used.
Grip: You'd never know that you're not on nylon until the pitch hits 50 degrees on blue ice. Steep skintracks in the wasatch... icy refrozen PNZ corn... sidehilling on sastrugi, it's all good.
Durability: Excellent. Not plagued by the shedding that happens with race skins, these have held up to serious abuse across variable conditions (including dirt, not recommended) without losing their form.
Fold: Here's where the money is. The backing is so much thinner than a BD or comparable offering that it seems like you save half the weight and half the space. They're much much lighter and pack much smaller than similar skins in this category. Plus, the backing is waterproof, so the glue won't get contaminated on spring days when the plush wets out.
Glue: Pomoca glue done pomoca style. That means great glue with good grip and easy rip, applied thinly and not to excess. No balling or lumpiness after folding and refolding against themselves repeatedly.
Gripe: My one gripe is the tail attachment, which is a bit lame. It's easy enough to use but doesn't stay super tight, which isn't a problem if you know how to skin. Still, I managed to tear it in half while ripping my skins. Apparently this is a known issue, fixed for 2016-2017, and dynafit/pomoca is sending me a new pair on warranty.
Summary: If I had to have just one pair of skins for everything, I'd pick this one. Over and over again. It can't beat nylon for skinning on sheer ice, and it's not ideal for racing, but for everything else I haven't found something that even came close to competing with these skins.
(Note, see bottom for a gripe, though they transcend my griping and earn 5 stars anyways).
Tip attachement: Durable, replaceable, came with two sizes of wire that should fit essentially any ski. Much less fiddly than anything I've used from black diamond.
Glide: Crazy good. While it's not a pomoca worldcup skimo race skin, the same technology is hiding in there, just with a waterproof backing and some more durable plush. These crush any non-race skins that I've used.
Grip: You'd never know that you're not on nylon until the pitch hits 50 degrees on blue ice. Steep skintracks in the wasatch... icy refrozen PNZ corn... sidehilling on sastrugi, it's all good.
Durability: Excellent. Not plagued by the shedding that happens with race skins, these have held up to serious abuse across variable conditions (including dirt, not recommended) without losing their form.
Fold: Here's where the money is. The backing is so much thinner than a BD or comparable offering that it seems like you save half the weight and half the space. They're much much lighter and pack much smaller than similar skins in this category. Plus, the backing is waterproof, so the glue won't get contaminated on spring days when the plush wets out.
Glue: Pomoca glue done pomoca style. That means great glue with good grip and easy rip, applied thinly and not to excess. No balling or lumpiness after folding and refolding against themselves repeatedly.
Gripe: My one gripe is the tail attachment, which is a bit lame. It's easy enough to use but doesn't stay super tight, which isn't a problem if you know how to skin. Still, I managed to tear it in half while ripping my skins. Apparently this is a known issue, fixed for 2016-2017, and dynafit/pomoca is sending me a new pair on warranty.
Summary: If I had to have just one pair of skins for everything, I'd pick this one. Over and over again. It can't beat nylon for skinning on sheer ice, and it's not ideal for racing, but for everything else I haven't found something that even came close to competing with these skins.
11/13/2016
Hi Patrick, FYI the old rainbow tail straps were phased out for the 15/16 season. As you can see in the picture for these, the new straps are much thicker.
1/4/2017
I have the new tails now on a pair of these, and the strap is not just thicker, but it also has elastic qualities. That means that it actually stays on, unlike the old one. It's also notched/indexed, so it stays where it was when you removed it and doesn't require resizing every time.
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11/1/2016
Hi, I just wanted to ask if you had any advice as to how these compare skins compare to the BD UltraLite mohair mix in terms of grip, glide and weight.
Jarrod
Jarrod
11/9/2016
Jarrod
The BD ultra lights are about 30 grams lighter as well as a lot more packable. As far as grip vs glide, the speculation is that the BD's might glide a little better do to the fact they have a shorter hair fiber. In general shorter hairs are faster gliding and less grip. But the new coating on the Pomoca's is supposed to be faster this year. The hair length doesn't seem to have changed on the Pomoca's from last year and last year had a nice balance of grip and pretty nice glide.
The BD ultra lights are about 30 grams lighter as well as a lot more packable. As far as grip vs glide, the speculation is that the BD's might glide a little better do to the fact they have a shorter hair fiber. In general shorter hairs are faster gliding and less grip. But the new coating on the Pomoca's is supposed to be faster this year. The hair length doesn't seem to have changed on the Pomoca's from last year and last year had a nice balance of grip and pretty nice glide.
1/22/2018
Follow up question - what are your thoughts on which skins have better glue (between BD ultralite and these)?
1/22/2018
Hi Patrick, we find the Pomoca glue to be much more manageable and no less reliable as the UltraLite formula.
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