I am considering the Pomoca Pro S Glide skins for a new pair of Atomic Backland Tour 107 skis in the 175 length that I will be taking on a touring trip to Canada next Winter. What size skin should I order? Do these skins come with the tip and tail fittings attached? Also, can these skins be folded up (at least in the short term) glue to glue or do you have to use a protective sheet over the glue side?
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Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide Skins
We’re not sure but we think the “S” stands for “Super”. The new Pomoca Super treatment on the old reliable Climb Pro Glide skins makes them even better at sliding. The friction coefficient is now more akin to racing formulas than to similar mohair-mix skins. Good sliding technique will be rewarded with up to 20% energy savings on an average climb, a figure extrapolated from recent lab tests. The Climb Pro S-Glides are 70% mohair, 30% nylon, and 100% fast. The skins feature the manageable Pomoca glue formula and easy-to-use tip brackets and tail clips. These are likely the default skin choice for interested ski tourers.
- Safer Skin Light membrane is waterproof, tear-resistant, and tends to hold its hairs in place.
- Ever Dry 2.0 is a water-shedding treatment that prevents potentially heavy water soakage.
- S-Glide concoction is applied at the end to give you a lifelong friction-reducing stride.
- ClickLock is a tip system that allows you to swap square brackets to match your ski tips.
- Adjustable tail clips ride up and down a thick stretchy strap that is notched for a good hold.
- Kits come with a trimmer that is much easier to use than the letter-opener style skin trimmers.
- Includes a skin bag for carrying your climbers and for long-term storage across seasons.
- Skins come with tips attached (except Universal length), otherwise known as "Back Fix" in Pomoca-speak.
- Universal Kits - 185cm of material with tails attached; cut to ski length and attach the 85mm or 95mm wide tip buckles (both included) before trimming.
- No Tips - A Universal Kit without the tip hardware...attach race bungees or your favorite touring tips.
Update 2020/21: The S-Glide skins are now made with thinner backing material and they have redesigned Click Lock tip attachments and tail hooks that enhance durability. The skins are about 40g lighter out of the box with the same grip and amazing glide. They now come in a zippered hard case.
| Specifications | |
| Weight per skin (with backing) | 314g [120mm x 165-180] |
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4/20/2019
4/20/2019
Kirk, the ideal size for your ski would be the 120mm x 165-180cm, which we are currently out of. The 175-190 would work OK too. The tips and tails are attached and they come with a tool to trim the sidecut. Yes you can fold them glue to glue.
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Pretty much the ideal skin for any sort of skiing in wettish, gloppy conditions where other skins might wet out. I have been using a pair the past few months on Movement Alptracks 84 and Session 89 skis for all sorts of low snow and thaw conditions and have yet to fully wet out the S-Glides the way a typical skin would after several hours of above-freezing, isothermic trail-breaking. That said -- not sure if the S-Glides actually have a better "glide" than Pomoca Climb skins ( the yellow ones) , and they definitely take longer to break in, so I'm docking a point for that alone. Had to down-skin the S-Glides several thousand feet before they started feeling OK on low-angle skinners. I've also been throwing plenty of wax on these (both cold and warm) and haven't found that they take wax as easily as the Climb or the green Mohair, probably due to the chemical treatment. All the same, I will definitely be using these for any and all spring trips this year since they keep me from bringing a 2nd pair of skins as backup.
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4/10/2019
I want to buy POMOCA CLIMB PRO S-GLIDE SKINS for my Rossignol S7 skis that I use for backcountry skiing. They are 178cm and 140/110/118. I don't understand how to select a skin size. For example one size is 100mm x 155 - 170cm. I assume that 100mm is the width of the skin and 170cm is the length of the ski. What is the 155 value for? What size would you recommend for my skis?
Thank you so much!
Thank you so much!
4/10/2019
JF, Here to help. The 175-190cm is for the length. The pre cut skins have a tail attachment that adjusts for that range. So your 178 cm ski g\falls in that range. For the width of your ski I would recommend that 120mm width. It will cover nearly all of your ski base except for a little of the widest point of ski which won't matter for grip.
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3/30/2019
Looking to get some new skins for my 2014 Scott Cruis'Air skis, length 169cm. The specs I found online say they are 128mm at the tip, but I don't have the skis with me right now to confirm. Am I correct that I need the 140mm width?
3/30/2019
Katie, I looked those skis up, they are just 90mm at he waist. You should get the 120mm x 155/170. That is plenty of width. These come with a trim tool that is easy to use.
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3/29/2019
I have a pair of Salomon Mountain Explore 95 skis that are 177 cm long with a 130-95-116 shape. I've been using BD Ultralite skins, but I've already torn one almost completely on two (trying to remove it without taking the ski off my boot) and now, on the warranty pair, I can't ski wet snow without icing the glue surface near the tip. So I'm looking to replace the BDs. I was planning on buying the Pamoca Climb Pro S-Glide skins, but am not sure if the click lock tips that come with the 120mm skins fit on the very shallow curve of the Salomon ski tips. Or would you suggest the simple alternative of the precut Salomon/Coltex skins (hoping that the Coltex material glides as well and is as waterproof as the Pamoca skin material)? Thanks as always for your help.
3/29/2019
Jon, Not a problem, the 120 has the widest clip. The clip fits over jsut fine.
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3/26/2019
My skis are 158 cm. I think POMOCA CLIMB PRO S-GLIDE SKINS 120mm x 155-170cm would be good. Could you please confirm they are r2c (ready to climb), which top and bottom clips are already attached to the skins. I can just trim the sides of the skins. Thank you.
3/26/2019
Emiko, Yes the tip and tails are installed and they come with the Pomoca trim tool which is easy to use to trim.
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3/24/2019
Howdy - I have a G3 Synapse Length 185, 130-101-118. What size should I be ordering? I assume the 140mm 175-190, but boy will I feel stupid if I order the wrong thing.
3/24/2019
Hi Matt, that size will work fine. You could get away with the 120mm wide skin as well, but the 140 will give you wall-to-wall carpeting.
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3/18/2019
Hey guys, I have a pair of 171cm Voile Objectives and am trying to decide between the 120mm x 155-170cm or the 120mm x 175-190cm. Which skin length would be better? Thanks!
3/18/2019
Hi Ryan, for that ski we recommend using those nice tip notches! You can use some S-Glide material and attach some tips and optionally tail clips.
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3/17/2019
I have 172 cm La Sportiva Nano's. There is a gap in these sizes from 170 to 175 - i bought the 175up size in the climb 2.0 the other day from a local store and it was way too long for my skis. I assume the one size down is fine even though it says up to 170 (not 172)? This is confusing...
thanks,
Ben
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Ben
3/17/2019
Hi Ben, we are out of stock of the 165-180 length in this model, but we do have it in the Climb 2.0.
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2/26/2019
I’ve had two pairs of these, one for my winter fat skis and one for my volcano/spring skis. This is my third season on both pairs. I lover everything about them.
My one issue is glue. Starting last season the glue was getting left behind on my spring skis pretty regularly. I could mitigate it if I kept skins in the freezer the night before and by keeping skis waxed frequently. But it’s slowly getting worse and this season my winter skis are getting glue transferred to them.
Yesterday I broke off the plastic on a front clip on one skin. I’m in need of replacement, and am contemplating replacing both sets of skins due to the glue.
My question is two-fold.
A. What practices will help minimize this and lengthen the life of the glue? Iron/paper bag?, skin saver vs sticking to self?, always store in freezer?
B. Is there another brand you would recommend that has a similar glide/climb ratio that is as spectacular as these skins, but with glue that is less likely to break down?
My one issue is glue. Starting last season the glue was getting left behind on my spring skis pretty regularly. I could mitigate it if I kept skins in the freezer the night before and by keeping skis waxed frequently. But it’s slowly getting worse and this season my winter skis are getting glue transferred to them.
Yesterday I broke off the plastic on a front clip on one skin. I’m in need of replacement, and am contemplating replacing both sets of skins due to the glue.
My question is two-fold.
A. What practices will help minimize this and lengthen the life of the glue? Iron/paper bag?, skin saver vs sticking to self?, always store in freezer?
B. Is there another brand you would recommend that has a similar glide/climb ratio that is as spectacular as these skins, but with glue that is less likely to break down?
2/27/2019
Thatcher, You have been doing everything right. There is no set lifetime on skins, but the lighter weight brands/models do seem to have glue issues occasionally. You can reglue, using the brown paper bag method of glue removal. Something like the BD Glidelite may last longer, but won't have quite the glide these do.
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1/30/2019
What is your recommended Pomoca Pro skin for a DPS Wailer106 in 168cm length?
1/31/2019
Lynn, I would recommend 120mm x 165 - 180 cm. Will work great on your Wailers
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1/28/2019
Teddy,
Thanks for recommending the S Glides for the Hannibal's. As stated in the User's Guide the skins came alive after 1,000 meters or so of ascent. Wicked fast.
Thanks for recommending the S Glides for the Hannibal's. As stated in the User's Guide the skins came alive after 1,000 meters or so of ascent. Wicked fast.
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1/27/2019
I am looking at the Pro S-Glide skins to use for my set up. This is all new to me. The ski I am using will be a 2018 "Fischer Ranger Ti 108's" in 188 length. The ski is measured by Fischer as 139-110-129.
Not really sure if I want the 140's and trim them down, or the 120's and have less coverage. Since I am new to this, I am thinking the 140's for maximal coverage. Would I be able to trim the tips narrower to break trail better, or is the trimmer designed to work along the ski and cut it to shape?
Not really sure if I want the 140's and trim them down, or the 120's and have less coverage. Since I am new to this, I am thinking the 140's for maximal coverage. Would I be able to trim the tips narrower to break trail better, or is the trimmer designed to work along the ski and cut it to shape?
1/27/2019
Hi Jonathan, you have a good handle on the options! 120 is likely sufficient for most skin tracks, but 140 won't slow you down much. The trimmer works along the edges so going skinnier in front would take a straight blade and a straight edge.
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1/26/2019
I've had a pair of these skins for my Volkl Nunataqs (186cm, 139/107/123 mm) since 2014, the 120mm XL with the braided wire tip bails and rainbow tail straps. The combo has been great, almost as good as my old Dynafit Manaslu and Speed Skins, but...the braided wire tips are fraying and now the glue is coming off onto ski bases/balling up in places. I'm debating whether it's worth it to re-glue and replace tip parts, or get a new pair. Pomoca site says to get size 130mm XL for the Nunataq (2016, same dimensions as my 2014s), but I've never had issue with the 120mm width.
Thoughts?
Pro Tip: Cut up old skins make great drink coasters or floor protectors under furniture legs!
Thoughts?
Pro Tip: Cut up old skins make great drink coasters or floor protectors under furniture legs!
1/26/2019
Hey Doug! If you have been getting away with 120mm, stick with 120! No need to haul around extra material. I would strip the layer of glue that's balling off the skin and then re-evaluate. You could very likely just touch up the areas that are bad as needed with a tube of glue.
Good pro tip though. Never thought of that before!
Good pro tip though. Never thought of that before!
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1/11/2019
I found this model not good enough in sliding forward. (I'm using it for expedition-style skiing in Adirondacks, Yukon, etc.
Which model would you recommend, so it would still prevent back-sliding good enough, but would be easier so ski forward?
Which model would you recommend, so it would still prevent back-sliding good enough, but would be easier so ski forward?
1/11/2019
Hey Vladimir! Beyond this, a wide race skin is probably your best bet as far as glide goes.
1/14/2019
Thank you Trace. I ordered a wide race skin.
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12/11/2018
Hi. I’m looking to order these for a pair of Head Kore 105’s in 180 length, and am debating between the 120 and 140 width. I’m leaning towards 120, as there is (slight) tip rocker, and there would only be a tiny bit of tip base showing, but would I be better off going 140 to ensure absolute coverage? Thank you.
12/11/2018
Hey Zach! It sounds like you are well aware that rocker does not contribute to the amount of grip that a skin can offer, and because of that I think going with the 120mm is the better option. If you want to be extra safe and are okay with hauling around a little bit of extra skin material, the 140mm would work just fine!
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8/4/2018
Hi,
I just sent a question in about Colltex skins for Black crows atris birdie (122-108-136) 160cm length. Thought perhaps these Pomoca Pro Glides in the 140mm 155-170cm might work better?
Thanks,
Melissa
I just sent a question in about Colltex skins for Black crows atris birdie (122-108-136) 160cm length. Thought perhaps these Pomoca Pro Glides in the 140mm 155-170cm might work better?
Thanks,
Melissa
8/4/2018
Hey Melissa! I just read your other question that you posted! I think you are correct, just purely based on dimensions alone I think these skins will be much better than the other set.
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7/31/2018
hi,
I bought DPS Wailer A112, size 184cm....which size Pomona skin should I get?
I bought DPS Wailer A112, size 184cm....which size Pomona skin should I get?
7/31/2018
Hey Ron! Okay, here are the specs of that ski: 141-112-128. Standard advice would have you go with a 140mm kit just to make sure that absolutely no base material is showing for maximum grip, but the awesome thing about the Wailer is that there is so much tip rocker (i.e. ski base that never touches the snow while skinning and therefore never contributes to skinning ability) that you can go with a narrower skin and do just fine. My choice is a 120mm x 175-190cm kit, but if you'd rather have full coverage then the 140mm is the better choice.
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4/13/2018
Hi, I'm about to pull the trigger on the Salomon MTN Explore 95 in the 169 length. You guys suggested I get these Pomoca skins. Just wanted to confirm that the 120mm x 155-170cm length will work for this ski. Seems like it should, but wanted to double check! Thanks...
4/13/2018
Hi Gavin, it should. If you add a note to your order, we're happy to pull 'em out and triple check. We can even trim 'em for you if you wish.
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3/7/2018
I purchased these last year for my Black Crows Navis Freebird 185cm. I purchased the "Large" (175-190cm) but found that the skins went back to almost the very end of the ski (a lot further back than what I need with the rockered tail). I finally cut the tail off, shortened it, and re-fashioned it using rivets. Not exactly ideal but I guess it works for now. I just picked up the Black Crows Orb in a 178cm and don't want to run into the same problem. If I order the "medium" can you tell me roughly how far from the rear of the ski the skin will end? (Maybe using a 178cm ski in your shop; I measured my skis to be true at exactly 178cm tip to tail). Ideally, looking at the rear rocker of the Orb, I would like the skin to stop 10cm from the rear. Thank you for the help, much appreciated!
3/8/2018
Hi Kyle, I would recommend ordering the 165-180cm length for that ski.
3/10/2018
Hi Kyle, please remember you can tweak how the tail sits by swapping tip buckles. There are two widths in the box and more available.
3/12/2018
Just to help anyone out for future reference. I actually had the "XL" (185-200cm) for a 185cm ski. Was a little bit longer than I would hope for so I cut it short. After order the "medium" (165-180cm) for a 178cm ski it ended up being 10cm too short for me. I wanted the skin to end roughly 10cm from the tail. So a "large" should be the correct fit. At this point I've found that the actual skin lengths (the actual skin material, not including tip or tail extension) are as follows: Medium (165-180): 155cm skin length; Large (175-190): 165cm; and the XL (185-200): 175cm. Hope this helps others with sizing.
3/12/2018
Hi Kyle, thanks for the reference info! We also suggest using the Universal kits for getting the length to meet an exact specification.
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