I'm looking at buying Haute Route, and will us with paired with Zero g 80 LT. Mainly for longer touring with skins off and on multiple times. Do you think this sounds like a reasonable setup?
I see both Haute route 10, Haute route 2.0 and Haute route plus as options. What exactly is the difference between these?
Also see that weight is listed different on different sites.
ATK Haute Route Binding
Long and hard traverses are long and hard. To make your travels less hard (though not less long), appropriate equipment selection is critical to shave grams where possible without jeopardizing durability as you traverse large swathes of wilderness. ATK has been at the forefront of creating wickedly light bindings that withstand the Haute Route traverse. While tipping the scales at a weight that would make race bindings of yesteryear envious, this feature-rich binding exhibits a mainly-metal construction that lends itself to lasting. With the use of the patented Cam Release System, the Haute Route binding gives you full control to set release values to your personal preferences. The Haute Route 10 works for most skiers while ATK offers the Haute Route 8 for lighter folk. The 30mm adjustment plate can accommodate several sizes of boots. If durable, adjustable, and light are words commonly used when you describe your ideal binding, then you may have found the one in the ATK Haute Route.
- Cam Release System helps with reliable and consistent releases.
- 30mm of BSL adjustment for the other boots in your quiver.
- Easy Entry System makes stepping in……..easy.
- Magneto Heel Flaps resist flapping when they should not be flapping.
- Flat mode plus two riser options for that Wasatch skinner.
- Alu 7075, Stainless Steel, POM construction saves weight and adds strength.
- Includes a pair of Kevlar leashes for the sketchy parts of the traverse.
- Haute Route 10 offers a release range of 5-10, vertically and laterally.
- Haute Route 8 is for lighter skiers with an adjustable range from 3 to 8.
| Specifications | |
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Weight |
209g |
| Weight (pair) | 418g |
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Boot |
Tech |
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Brakes |
Leashes |
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BSL |
30mm |
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Riser |
2 + Flat |
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Vertical |
3-8 [8] 5-10 [10] |
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Lateral |
3-8 [8] 5-10 [10] |
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Crampon |
Yes, Removable |
| Specs Verified | Yes |
| Design | |
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7075 aluminum, stainless steel, POM |
| Skimo Co Says | |
| Usage | Light and speedy touring, traverses |
| Notes | Magnetic risers are satisfying to activate |
| Bottom Line | The features you need and none you don’t |
| Compare to other Lean Bindings | |
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Questions & Reviews
9/23/2024
9/23/2024
Atle, So many ATK bindings.
This is the original Haute Route, with just one riser. They also sold the HR without an adjustment plate, so a bit lighter.
The HR Plus uses the same heel piece as the Raiders and has two heel risers. The best of them. And it would be an excellent choice for that ski.
This is the original Haute Route, with just one riser. They also sold the HR without an adjustment plate, so a bit lighter.
The HR Plus uses the same heel piece as the Raiders and has two heel risers. The best of them. And it would be an excellent choice for that ski.
9/24/2024
Hi, Jeff. Thanks for you reply. What about Haute route 2.0? I see at least this name is used for some stores here in Norway.
9/24/2024
Many questions from me now, but also wondering what are the pro/cons on haute route vs Dynafit superlight?
10/8/2024
Hi Atle, the Haute Route 2.0 is an older binding from 2018. They changed the names since they started making two versions 8 & 10.
The Dynafits have more lateral elasticity, although you cannot adjust the forward release short of swapping the U-springs.
The Dynafits have more lateral elasticity, although you cannot adjust the forward release short of swapping the U-springs.
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About 20g heavier than the Trofeo and worth this penalty.
- Both bindings have released as expected at the same din
- Rotating the haute route heals takes less force, and the haute route heals don't seem to have as much of an issue with getting "gunk" in them preventing them from rotating. I've bruised and broken nerves in my palms rotating the Trofeos.
- I've found there's a disconcerting creaking/rubbing in the Trofeos when compressing the ski in concavities in powder. Obviously neither binding has length compensation but this doesn't happen with the haute route.
- Flat mode on the haute route is much better, and it is sometimes nice to have the combination of flat mode + riser without rotating the binding (though I find this "high" riser a bit too high to be useful)
- Easier to step into at the same din (which is actually a con if you're trying to dual tip rip because you can't temporarily stand on the unprotected heal without clipping in)
IMO the real advantage of the Trofeo is cost.
- Both bindings have released as expected at the same din
- Rotating the haute route heals takes less force, and the haute route heals don't seem to have as much of an issue with getting "gunk" in them preventing them from rotating. I've bruised and broken nerves in my palms rotating the Trofeos.
- I've found there's a disconcerting creaking/rubbing in the Trofeos when compressing the ski in concavities in powder. Obviously neither binding has length compensation but this doesn't happen with the haute route.
- Flat mode on the haute route is much better, and it is sometimes nice to have the combination of flat mode + riser without rotating the binding (though I find this "high" riser a bit too high to be useful)
- Easier to step into at the same din (which is actually a con if you're trying to dual tip rip because you can't temporarily stand on the unprotected heal without clipping in)
IMO the real advantage of the Trofeo is cost.
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2/14/2024
I want to adjust the heel piece so someone else can try my skis. Do I need to use a torque wrench and if so, what torque is correct?
2/14/2024
Hi Will! ATK suggests 5Nm if you use a torque wrench. On the fly, hand tight + quarter turn works well. In any case, be careful to not strip the screws! Thanks!
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2/12/2024
How many screws are included in the original package?
2/12/2024
Hi Ziha, there are eight toe and eight heel screws included.
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1/20/2024
What is the prescribed heel gap for these bindings? My pair did not come with a spacer tool
1/20/2024
Hi Alex, these should be set at 4mm. FYI we maintain a full list of heel gaps.
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12/30/2023
What do you all think about putting these on a 113 waisted ski? ATK's site recommends up to a 95 width.
12/30/2023
Hi Ben, we ski all manner of tiny bindings on big skis. You might sense some difference in power transfer as compared to ATK's freeride line with aggressive skiing, but if you're just harvesting powder these will work great.
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11/15/2023
You note the 3 riser heights; are all three riser elevations, including flat accessed from the same heel position? In other words, does one have to rotate the heel piece from flat to access flat+1 and flat+2, a la Speed Radical? Also, thoughts on the lightest heel piece that does have this functionality. Envisioning for long, rolling at times tour and attempting to mitigate crouching down to rotate with biggish pack. Thanks in advance for your help!
11/15/2023
Brian, No, the first riser would be the flap over the pins. You rotate the heel to get flat and #2.
To get what you are looking for, you would need to go with the DPS L10.
To get what you are looking for, you would need to go with the DPS L10.
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Just mounted a set of these on my wifes skis, she loves them! Removed some old Dynafit Radicals - the ATK HR are much easier for her to step into, and a lot lighter (and they look better). This binding is so good, I didn't wait for a sale price to by another set for myself!
4/10/2023
Forgot to mention, if you are mounting these yourself, be careful about the screws - the toes use shorter screws than the standard length, because the toe bindings have been machined thinner for weight savings. The heels use standard screws (both lengths supplied).
The toes have left a higher "boss" around the outline of the toes, so they should still be plenty strong.
The toes have left a higher "boss" around the outline of the toes, so they should still be plenty strong.
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3/21/2023
I just got a pair of these and the leashes are pre mounted at the toe lever. Before I get destructive, is there an easy way to remove them?
3/21/2023
Hi Brian. There is! The end of the leash is attached to a "puck". If you put the toe lever in the lock position, you should be able to slip a flathead screwdriver under the toe lever and pop that puck and the end of the leash out. Then simply remove the puck and pull the end of the leash out from the toe piece. I hope this helps.
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3/13/2023
Is the delta of this binding +6.5mm with the adjustment track?
3/13/2023
Hi Josh, yes that's correct. For the fixed version, check out the Helio LT.
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3/9/2023
Do ATK Haute Route or Crest toe pieces have a loop or hole to attach an "old school" leash?
3/10/2023
Hi Rando, the toe levers have machined cutouts on either side that you may use to girth hitch a leash directly. Or, put a loop of wire, cord, or zip tie through it and attach the leash to that.
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2/12/2023
I’m buying Moment Sierra Tours as a midwinter daily driver and occasionally longer spring tour. I’ll be skiing everything from low angle to steeps but no cliff drops. Would the haute route be a good binding choice or should I get something burlier like the FR 14?
2/13/2023
Cara,
The Haute Route would be a great choice! If you want brakes, the Freeraider 14 or Raider 12 are great options. Keep in mind you'll want to avoid running the binding at or very near its minimum (or maximum) release value, as they can be inconsistent at the extremes of their ranges. If you'd like, fill out a binding finder and we can get you some more accurate recommendations!
The Haute Route would be a great choice! If you want brakes, the Freeraider 14 or Raider 12 are great options. Keep in mind you'll want to avoid running the binding at or very near its minimum (or maximum) release value, as they can be inconsistent at the extremes of their ranges. If you'd like, fill out a binding finder and we can get you some more accurate recommendations!
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1/1/2023
For a rider with a DIN of 7, what would be the benefit of using the HR 8 instead of the HR 10; assuming the DIN was set to 7 regardless?
1/2/2023
Hi Alanna, being purple is a benefit for Northwestern alumni. Other than that, as long as you're comfortably in the release range you should be fine.
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11/2/2022
I just got these bindings and the toe lever doesn’t fit snuggly into the base so I can’t lock it out for uphill travel. What’s the deal?
11/2/2022
Hi Ben, the boot needs to be in the system for the locking mechanism to work.
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10/31/2022
Can this binding be mounted without the adjustment plate?
10/31/2022
Hi Vinton, it's possible but difficult (doesn't work with the ATK jig). Check out the BD Helio LT instead.
11/14/2022
So I have the Helio 200 LT and the Haute Route 10 in my hands right now. The mounting pattern is identical. I believe these can be mounted with the ATK jig no problem. If you look closely at the Helio 200 (regular), it's a different heel piece than this one. I suspect this is what's happening
11/15/2022
Hi Brian, yes the mounting pattern is the same; the problem lies in the distance between the screw holes and the ends of the pins. Fair warning, you will not be psyched with your heel gap if you blindly fix-mount a Haute Route/Helio 200 with the jig.
11/15/2022
So I don't have a perfect way to measure the dimensions. But the pin, length, setback, height, anything that I can measure Is all identical to the Helio 200 LTs ( (or at least within .25 mm). I am including an image that highlights that the Haute Route 10 does have a different heel design than the helio 200. But is similar to the 200 LTs
11/15/2022
But I'm bringing them to a local Seattle shop that has the jig tomorrow. I'll bring them a coffee for troubling them with a challenging mount haha. And I'll report back when they say :)
11/16/2022
Hi Brian, here are the Haute Route and 200 side by side. You can see they are the same. The LT has a different housing, e.g. no indents on the lateral most edges. In any case, it's possible to do, I would just be very careful with the gap.
11/25/2022
Brian B, please just mount your Haute Route bindings on the R01/Helio Heel Adjustment plate. They only weigh 30g and in the future you will be grateful for the options they give you! If you are concerned about the steeper ramp angle the heel plate gives you, you can use a B&D classic shim which are sold on this site, or if you want something with a sleeker look for a very reasonable cost, Jon at The Piste Office in Nottinghamshire, England will make you custom toe shims to your specs and ship them affordably and promptly. Death to fixed mounts!!
11/26/2023
Does anyone know if this same issue - how mounting without the R01 plate using the ATK jig, without any additional considerations, will result in an incorrect heel gap - applies to the newer Haute Route Plus binding (the DPS L10 on skimo.co)?
2/12/2024
I asked evo seattle to mount without the adjustments plate and they refused to do it. They say it’s not designed that way, the toe piece might break off
2/12/2024
Hi Zihao, that is weird, we've mounted several that way. Further, the Helio 200 LT is essentially just this binding without an adjustment plate and it works just fine.
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4/11/2022
Is this binding ok for a 200lbs rider for some steep skiing if locked and/or turned up to 10?
4/11/2022
Hey Ant, thanks for reaching out. Depending on a number of things you could be fine at 10 but I would check the binding release calculator and as long as you are at or below a 10 on that you will be fine.
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2/4/2022
Is this the same toe and heel (w/o brakes obv) as the ATK Crest / Hagan Pure just a different heel mounting?
2/4/2022
Hey Celia, you are correct. The toes are exactly the same but the heel is on a friction plate which will be a different mounting pattern.
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11/21/2021
Is the ATK Haute Route all metal? What does POM refer to in the materials?
11/21/2021
Hi Gary, it's nearly all metal. There are a few bits of Polyoxymethylene (POM) aka acetal thermoplastic, e.g. the toe wing coupler.
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10/7/2021
Hi Folks - do you have any comparisons for riser heights... say compared to the Salomon MTNs? And how about the toe with that cam design - powerful? (I'm considering these for a 185 DPS 124) and does it have a solid/positive toe lock?
Thank you!
Thank you!
10/7/2021
Hi Tristan, we will methodically analyze when they arrive per usual. In the interim, you can reference the Helio 200 in our list of riser heights.
As far as the toe clamping power, we coincidentally measured the lateral toe retention of all our bindings over the summer. It's not published but give us a ring for some insight.
As far as the toe clamping power, we coincidentally measured the lateral toe retention of all our bindings over the summer. It's not published but give us a ring for some insight.
10/7/2021
Thank you jbo, thats helpful!
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10/7/2021
Question regarding weight - is this binding actually lighter than the BD Helio 200 (210gr) and 200 LT (179gr)?
10/7/2021
Hi Dan,
The current listed weight is specified by the manufacturer. We have yet to get our hands on a pair for some in house verification!
The current listed weight is specified by the manufacturer. We have yet to get our hands on a pair for some in house verification!
10/7/2021
Hi Dan, the manufacturer weight likely does not include the adjustment plate and possibly the crampon receptor. It should be the same as the 200, will verify when they land.
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