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Dynafit TLT8 Expedition CR Boot

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The boot for the unwashed masses, the common backcountry skier who has big dreams but sleeps through the alarm as often as they make it out of bed in time! Don't misunderstand, this boot is top-of-the-line European engineering at its finest: with tech like the Speed Nose and Cramp-In system, who else besides Dynafit could have designed it? No, the only common or unwashed thing about this boot is the foot that goes inside it. The capabilities of the TLT8 Expedition boot place it in the middle of the road between the lycra-wearing skimo racer and the couloir-skiing, peak-bagging ski mountaineer. With a nearly friction-free 60 degree range of motion, the TLT8 Expedition is ready to walk all day, even if you aren't, and an updated, simple two-part buckle system gets you cinched down and ready to ski faster and easier than the previous model. A stiff Lambda frame serves as the skeleton of the boot, while the fully moldable CR boot liner can be fit to cater to all your strange podiatric needs. This is a boot which you will love from your first day until your last day.

  • Extra roomy 103mm last and Dynafit's moldable CR liner make for a very comfortable and customizable boot.
  • Ultra Lock 4.0 has an updated glove-friendly lever, but is otherwise unchanged because the previous systems have worked so darn well.
  • Compatible with the Cramp-In crampon system, the TLT8 Expedition streamlines crampon use and give users a unique automatic crampon option.
  • Lambda frame provides the power and structure that makes this boot ski so solidly, and a slightly taller cuff now further enhances that power transmission.
  • Two ratcheting buckles replace the single cable closure system seen on the TLT7 line, greatly simplifying a system that mostly worked but felt somewhat complex.
  • The Dynafit Speed Nose moves the burly Master Step inserts back a few millimeters towards the ball of the feet, leading to a more ergonomic pivot and eliminating some weight by losing the toe lugs.

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1211g [27.0]
Weight (pair) 2422g [27.0]
Buckles   Ultra Lock 4.0
Boot Sole Length   273mm [25/25.5]
283mm [26/26.5]
293mm [27/27.5]
303mm [28/28.5]
313mm [29/29.5]
323mm [30/30.5]
Binding Compatibility   Tech only
Cuff Rotation   60°
Forward Lean(s)   15°, 18°
Specs Verified Yes
Materials   Shell - Grilamid, Cuff - Grilamid with glass fibers
Liner   Custom Ready
Sole   Formula Pomoca Climb
Skimo Co Says
Usage Ski touring of all kinds in cold conditions
Notes Warm, comfy and adjustable addition to the TLT family
Bottom Line Superior TLTs for your next Expedition
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Questions & Reviews

Question from Tim Benfield
I’m looking at buying the Dynafit TLT8 CR in 27.5. When I look on your web site it does not distinguish between the men’s and women’’s. How do I ensure I order the correct one.
Answer from Jeff
Tim, This is the Mens. Can also be used by anyone. This is the womens version
TLT 8 womens.
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Question from Randy
Hi, Thanks for the reviews!
After a bit of research I found that the boot shell should be heat moldable, as it is Grilamid. The cuff however is Grilamid with glass fiber. Does anyone know what the official position concerning thermomolding these boots, with a heat gun etc. ? Or any experience on doing anyways ?
Answer from Emmett I
Hi Randy,

For clarity, "molding" shells is a feature exclusive to Salomon and Atomic, where the entire shell is heated and molded to your foot. "Punching" is where you heat a specific spot of the boot. The TLT8 is punchable, but not moldable. In general, we advise against punching the cuff. There's usually no need to, but depending on the location it can be done. Reach out to us at if you think you need to punch the cuff and we can give you some more advice. Glass grilamid can be punched very well, as is the case with the glass-grilamid F1 GT which uses glass-infused grilamid for the entire shell.
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Question from Chris Child
What would be a good replacement liner for this boot?
A bit warmer would be nice and possibly just a tad bit snugger fit.
Answer from jbo
Hi Chris, the Palau Tour Lite Evo Pro is probably the closest match, with the Power LT taking up just a bit more room.
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Question from Nathan I
I have used the same pair of TLT6 Performance for years now and they fit wonderfully (and do everything else great for me), but have finally been exhausted. I feel a safe bet is to go with the newer generation of the same boot - how do these fit compared to the TLT6? Same or different?
Answer from Cole P
Hey Nathan, the TLT7 and TLT8 are considerably higher volume than the TLT6 performance. We do offer the Dynafit Speedfit Pro boot for people who loved the fit of the TLT6. It is the same mold but has a different liner. For other options that has a lower volume fit and in the same class I suggest looking at the Scarpa F1 LT or the Salomon S/Lab MTN Summit boot.
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Mark H (downright abused product)
I have 2 full seasons on the TLT8 Expedition. They are comfortable, climb well, and are great to walk in. I love the one throw operation (top buckle + walk mech.), which I can do without lifting my pant cuff. I ski them mostly with Voile Hyperchargers, and they are easily enough boot to drive that ski (108 under foot). I would not rate them as a super warm boot, they do OK on most days, but it is the only boot I have ever had cold toes in. My big complaint is that the instep buckle cables broke on both boots (see photo), one in December, the other in March. To Dynafit's credit, they repaired the boots at no cost. Still, I had to ski a dozen or so days in my old boots while I waited for the repairs. This brings me to a comparison of the TLT8 with my worn out first generation Sportive Spitfires, which are ~9+ years old. The Spitfire also has one-throw operation (buckle + walk), climbs as well as the TLT8, skis with more authority, and is warmer. A nod to Sportive for nailing the first boot they ever made. Regarding the warmth issue, my Spitfires have a thin race liner and somehow are super toasty, where the TLT8 liner seems thicker but the boots are not as warm on the coldest days, hmmm. I'm hoping a new set of Palau liners will help the TLT8 in this regard. Another issue is that the tongues in the Dynafit liners tend to slide over to the side. I made holes with a soldering iron and added laces, which helped that issue somewhat, and also gave a bit more power in ski mode. Bottom line: I would buy these boots again, mainly for the low weight, comfort, and one-throw operation, and hope that Dynafit corrects the buckle failures and upgrades the liners.
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Question from Kade
How do the fit of these compare to the original hoji tours? Thanks!
Answer from Ian C
Hi Kade, compared to the TLT8, the hoji pro tour comes in lower over the instep, with a narrower heel! They both have a good amount of volume in the forefoot and toebox.
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Question from Leah
I am wondering if anyone else is noticing just how tall these boots are? I'm a 5'2" woman, and these boots just arrived in the mail and I am very excited about them with the one exception of the fact that the cuffs are 1"-2" taller than either of my previous boots (F1 and tlt5). Both of those boots hit just below my calf muscle, while this one hits right in the meat of it. I'm worried that might be a deal breaker, but am surprised I haven't seen any discussion of this increase in cuff height. Anyone have any thoughts or experience on this?

Answer from Ian C
Hi Leah, how funky! I just pulled a women's TLT8, F1 and the unisex Speedfit and found them all to be pretty similar in cuff height. It could be a combination of not just cuff height but also shape that is sitting poorly on your calves. Happy to brainstorm solutions with you!
Answer from Leah S
Hi Ian,

That's interesting! Here's a photo of the tlt8s next to my F1s. Pretty pronounced difference in my opinion. Some of it is the liner, and I guess I could play with other liners, but the shell itself is definitely a good bit higher too. Would be great to hear your thoughts.

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Question from Mark
Hi everyone,
it is known that these boots have a wide fit (103mm last), large volume and therefore they adapt well to big and wide feet. But how do they behave with narrow feet? I have a narrow foot (96mm last 266mm lenght), with a thin heel and low instep. In the shop I wore a TLT8 Expedition CL (thinner liner) size 26 without too many expectations and incredibly I had good feelings: the foot seemed well wrapped and well blocked by the shell buckle. The heel also seemed well locked, even when walking. Unfortunately I am afraid of making the wrong purchase. Could the last size be an indicator of comfort as well as foot volume?

Which two buckles boots do you recommend for those with feet like mine?

Thanks to those who will answer
Answer from Ian C
Hi Mark, great questions, and thanks for your detailed info! Trying on boots at the shop can be tricky business as the liner will metamorphose through molding or daily use. Foreroom width itself may not rule this boot out for you but taking into account everything else (instep volume, ankle volume) it might be worthwhile to look at some alternatives.

On the other hand, if you are able to try these boots on without the liner (shell fit) and have 1-2 fingers of space around your foot, then they could be a good option! Feel free to write in to and we would be happy to walk you through the process!
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Centerfold (used product regularly)
Loved these boots. I think my favorite thing about these boots is how well they climb in crampons compared to other boots. Their crampon capabilities for the alpine are something you don't find in other boots. The other great draw is how stiff the boots are for their weight. Highly recommend these boots if they can fit.
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Derek S (used product a few times)
Great boots with one major caveat.
They walk well with very usable range of motion, are light and ski with more power than I expected. It turns out that I have a wider foot so this boot fits perfectly in the toe box, however it took a long time for me to let go of my preconceived ideas of boot fit. I tried 5 different boots before I told myself that it was ok not to have my feet compressed into discomfort.
I like the buckle system for ease, convenience and speed.
The liner is comfortable but the tongue does not stay in place going uphill or down, sliding to one side or the other. When the liner slides to the side the pressure from the buckle transfers directly to your shin. It could be my narrow lower legs but this is so annoying that I either need to find away to keep the tongue in place or get new liners. The tongue has a narrow integrated plastic pad designed to spread the pressure from the buckle but once it slides to the side the strap makes skiing down uncomfortable.
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Question from Max Krueger
Are these compatible with any MNC bindings or just tech bindings?
Answer from Teddy Young
Hey Max, these are not compatible with MNC bindings, my apologies!
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Centerfold (used product a few times)
Dynafit only makes fine products. And these boots are no exception. My only problem with these is I didn’t get the fit quite right. So I can’t fault Dynafit here.

The boots are incredibly stiff. Stiffer then anything out there for how light they are. They also climb quite well. I have fitted them with real crampons. Flex on these is also incredible.

The downside on these is I thought they were a bit cold in the liners. But a lot of that could have been the fit here.

So a bit of a mixed review but I think people will be happy with this boot if they can get the fit right.
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Andy (used product regularly)
Agree w Anthony O. Boot is stiffer than TLT6 M and Scarpa F1. Walks better than the F1 but not the TLT6 with no accesory tongue or power strap. Forefoot is roomy, a little disconcerting at first, but the lower buckle allows for a snug hold from arch to the heel. I skin with the top buckle completely unbuckled and the power strap danging at below the cuff. I would have liked the strap a little longer, but it is the 1st strap on more than half a dozen AT boots I haven't replaced with a booster strap. Plenty stiff for me on skis 84 (movement vertex-X, 100 move. Alp Tracks 100, and Move. Alp Tracks 106 mm at the waists. Best AT boot I've had exc I still like my Dynafit Mercuries with a Booster Strap that I had punched and molded (original liner) for lift-served sidecountry with my Fischer Ranger 98 ti and Marker Kingpins.
Reply from Andy
Just a couple of additions. Easiest boot I have had to get into and out of. First boot/liner I've been able to use without laces.
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Question from Dane
I've seen the comparison charts. Nice work. But I was asking about shell only weights on the 2 versions of the TLT8. ot been able to find that info. The 120 flex number I was repeating from other Internet info. Flex numbers mean little in the grand scheme but boot to boot comparisons are easy enough with boots on hand. How about a direct comparison of the Expedition and the Carbon version for flex? And actual shell only numbers on the two boots? Thanks!
Answer from TSB
Hey Dane, for shell-only at size 27.0, the Carbonio comes in at 962g and the Expedition at 976g. Forward flex differences between the two models can be summarized as "subtle," but the Carbonio definitely has an edge for bigger or more backseat skiers.
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Question from Dane
Previous answer on the stiffness of this boot was interesting but not a huge help :) So we know the Exp is softer than the supposed 120 flex of the Carbonio. Where does this boot fall in the TLT comparison? Are we talking soft like a green tongue TLT 6 Mtn or a green tonque in a TLT 6 P? From what I can gather this boot's shell and the Carbonio shells have to be pretty close in weight. Anyone bother to weigh like shells?
Answer from jbo
Hi Dane, the Carbonio is not a 120. For what it's worth, we've weighed the shells and liners of every boot that we've carried. This TLT comparison might help.
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Anthony O (used product regularly)
Product familiarity: I used the tlt7 last year for about 50 days before i broke the cables, the tlt 7 shares the same shell lower, but the 8 has a slightly different upper cuff and tongue, and uses reworked buckles. I have about 60 hours in the tlt 8 so far, just hitting 99k vert for the month of january with most of that being in this boot. I just did 9k of vert in them yesterday. No foot problems! Ive skied skis from 80mm to 106mm in and out of bounds in my home range of the Cascades and a short trip up to Nelson BC for some backcountry goodies. I even skied about 8k vert of bottomless powder with my heel strapped down by nothing but a voile strap with this boot! I do not identify as a freeskier but ive taken them off airs and drops including a 20 footer i accidentally hit because i couldnt see anything, no issues (coincidentally i only stuck the landing because i couldnt see).

Initial Thoughts: the TLT8 is a refinement on the TLT 7 that fixes most of its main problems. The new buckle system provides a more dialed fit, more durability, and what I perceive to be a slightly taller cuff height which results in significantly noticeable skiing improvement. I have also used the new 2020 atomic backland, one of this boots main competitors, and find the TLT 8 expedition to be significantly stiffer than the backland, both of which are stiffer than the fischer travers carbon. Ironically the TLT8 also comes in the sexy green TLT8 Carbonio edition which I was not cool enough to receive
Reply from Anthony O
Fit: Fit is very subjective, however we can note a few things, same fit as TLT7 (which is noticably wider and higher volume than the TLT6). This therefore is the widest available touring boot on the market with a stated last of 103.5. It is extremely comfortable for my feet, i drive, get groceries, and pretty much do anything with it unimpeded. Another fitment note is that Scarpa has primarily gone to carbon infused grilamid which they say you shouldnt punch (side note: you can, but it voids warranty and is very hard to do). Atomic uses memory fit which bakes the entire shell, but also requires special equipment and makes the plastic less responsive to pinpoint punching. What this means is that if you have ugly feet with bunions and bulges, this is one of the few remaining boots that is extremely easy for bootfitters to work with, and amateurs like myself to punch in my garage without specialty equipment. If you have a typical "north american foot" ie generally wider forefoot with a medium to narrow heel, then you may like this boot. It doesnt require you to have pointed ballerina feet like all the other lightweight 2 buckle boots (and it skis better, though obviously whatever fits you best will ski best, but this is the stiffest option).

Stuff that they need to fix but isnt a deal breaker: user serviceable upper cuff pivot joint. For some reason dynafit has been dragging their heels on a user servicable cuff joint. For biking nerds out there, the system they use is reminiscent of a pressfit BB. This means that they press the joint together at a factory. It works, but the more you use the boot, the more play develops in the joint between the upper and lower cuff. It also creates a slight amount of friction. Other manufacturers, like atomic, utilize a frictionless pivot that can be retightened at home, instead of having to be sent back to dynafit and repressed. The other option is to buy the B&D Ski gear ultimate cuff pivot, drill out the pressfit pivot, and install (not too terrible, ive done it on the Dynafit PDG 2). And drilling your boot will void warranty. This is a very easy fix for dynafit, specifically because they partner with Pierre Gignoux which uses a user servicable cuff on all boots, so Dynafit does know how to do it properly.

Secondly, as their premiere light and fast but still skis great boot, i find it odd that the transition now is longer than their beefier boot, the Hoji (excellent boot). The hoji utilizes a single throw rear latch which tightens the upper cuff, the booster strap, and locks the cuff. Similarly, dynafits premier race boot, the DNA (rebranded Pierre Gignoux Race 400) also tightens the upper cuff and locks it with a single throw of a latch. The TLT8 requires you to throw a side latch which locks and tightens the upper cuff, but you have to tighten to booster strap separately. You can remove the strap but it improves skiability. (Side note: the booster strap is far superior to those like on the Scarpa F1, it utilizes a camlock rather than velcro which should prove more durable and is easier to adjust.) So the next iteration imo should either adopt a version like the Hojis or like the DNA.

Summary/whose it for: light and fast users who want a strong boot for the downhill and want to not notice what's on their feet on the up. Comparatively i find it has the strongest ski performance in the weight class, and accommodates wider feet the best of any boot off the shelf. Dynafit also has an excellent warranty service.

*final note: the dynafit tlt 7/8 and hoji all utilize the speednose which is a unique design that eliminated the front welt. This serves several purposes, it allows shorter bsls, it provides a more natural pivot point (pins under toes rather than in front of them) which reduces fatigue and makes a more natural stride) and lastly if you climb ice in ski boots like i do, it allows for higher performance by allow the frontpoints to be closer to the boot rather than protruding far in front. This has the same effect of reducing the overall lever of your ankle and foot, thereby alleviating calf strain and allowing more precise placements. Ive climbed about 30 days of ice in Hojis (the same toe) and find the tech to work, both providing a more secure fit and compatible with any semi automatic toe piece on the market. I put a semi auto toe piece on my grivel g20s and havent thought about it sense. Some folks complain about this innovation, but they are probably unaware that a properly fitted semi auto crampon is both more secure than a fully automatic, and allows again for closer frontpoints for improved performance . To the haters who refuse to buy the boot because theyve been misled that you can only climb ice with full autos, i suggest breaking out of your shell and getting with the times, you wont miss it! After leading my ice block, i in fact watched my partners full auto crampon sheer sideways off of his boot while leading. You cant experience that with a semi auto! It's safer!

I have not submitted this as an official review yet because i do not believe in giving full reviews after only a month. I intend on releasing a full review at the end of the season. Thanks, and if you have questions let me know! Dynafit #speedup
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Question from John L
I've had a pair of TLT7 Performance boots for two years and they came closer to fitting my wide feet right out of the box than any other AT boot I've tried. I do mostly backcountry touring with an occasional pathetic attempt at rando racing. I'm thinking of getting the TLT8's for a bit more support/control on the downhills while keeping the weight light, but I'm concerned that I read Dynafit may have narrowed them back down for those skinny-footed Euro types! Also, the CR liner in the 8's probably takes up more volume than the CL in the 7's? I normally wear 28.5 for length but have frequently had to trade off to a bigger size to cram my EE foot into in the past. What do you think, would the 28.5 TLT8 still be a reasonable fit for me, should I try the 29, or is there another boot I should be looking at?
Answer from TSB
Hey John! The only thing that's "pathetic" about skimo racing is how lame it is when you don't do it... in our opinion. The TLT8 should be a pretty good bet for a bit more boot than a true skimo race option, but with plenty of range of motion and a 1200g weight. Dynafit has kept the last pretty wide in the TLT7 and 8, but if you are a true EE width you may still find it restrictive. If you are going to bump up to the warmer liner in the Expedition model, going up a shell size to 29.0 may not be a bad idea!
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Question from Christian
Curious what the flex is on these? I have previously skied the TLT6 and loved them with tongues, but could barely stand skiing down w/o tongues; currently I ski without the tongues in Vulcans for all my backcountry skiing. I found the flex of the F1 to not be quite as stiff as I like. I know you (probably) can't read minds, but what are your thoughts on how I might like the flex of these? Or for the extra 100g or so, would the Zero G's do better?
Answer from TSB
Hi Christian! Clearly you belong in an efficiency-focused German-designed boot, and maybe some wiener schnitzel as a post-ski snack. The TLT series has, across the comparable models, become consistently stiffer and more performative since the TLT5, so I think you'd find the TLT8 (Expedition) flex to be at least as stiff as the TLT6 (Mountain) with tongues in. You could also consider the even-stiffer cuff on the Carbonio version, maybe with a side of schwarzbier.
Answer from Phil D
No this is not true. The Tlt8 is very soft! Way too soft in my opinion. CR or CL liner does not really make a big difference in stiffness (except that in cl you need a 1/2 size smaller). Carbonio version is a bit better. The TLT 8 is like a tlt 6 with no tongue. TLT 7 is stiffer than tlt 6 witout tongue but i is not that high and wider: meaning ski control is worse. Also with tongue the tlt 6 was the stiffest tlt so far for downhill. I have all three. Reason: TLT7 was the worst with a stupid cable system that i had to replace three times. Very bad design. I had to get the tlt 8 (carbonio) to be sure that i will not be stuck this spring with half a boot in a multi day skitour. I would not recommend to buy the tlt 8 cr/cl if you are more than 60 kg...
Answer from TSB
Phil, your input is much appreciated but may be unique to yourself and your skiing style. You may find that, for a variety of reasons, your TLT6s provide a stiffer and more hard-driving ski experiences than your TLT7s or TLT8s, but as a general rule the boots have indeed gotten stiffer over the generations on account of advances in materials and a more sophisticated (and stiffer) interface between the cuff pivots. Dynafit does not mess around with their model updates for their flagship touring boot! Also worth noting that the TLT8 Expedition does not come with a CL or CR liner (as the Performance and Expedition models had, respectively, in the past) but instead comes with one "Custom Ready" liner made by Sidas. Only with the Carbonio model does Dynafit offer the thinner "Custom Light" option.

If you find that the TLT8 is too "soft" in flex for your tastes and your ski style, you might consider trying something more in the "freeride" boot category (née "beef boots), since those boots will be designed with a very hard-charging skier in mind. What's more, how much stiffness a skier demands is almost certainly correlated more highly with skiing style than it is with weight. I'm well over 90kg/200lbs with my touring kit and backpack on and the TLT8 Carbonio is approximately as stiff as I would ever want a touring boot (not a race boot, mind you) to be. If anything, I prefer my (four-season old) TLT7s precisely because they have a more pronounced progressive flex.

If I had my way, we in the backcountry-ski world would stop chasing "stiffer" boots and turn our focus to boots with a more controlled flex and more active "suspension" (as the Coloradans on the Blister Podcast call it). Stiffness is, in a sense, a false narrative. If all we cared about were running the stiffest possible boots for the weight we'd all be on Alien 3.0s with modified Kevlar attachment points ála Benjamin Chamoux.
Answer from matteo p
Perfectly agree, above all over this last sentence/concept.

I've used both normal TLT8 and Carbonio, and the latter to me are "too stiff" while the normal ones lack of progression but performs (TO ME) better than carbonio either way.

What it seems hard to achieve in this boot range is indeed progression, meaning the good amount of feedback and stability over increasing pressure we might put on the boot.
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