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Dynafit TLT8 Carbonio Boot

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Brand: Dynafit
Model: TLT8 Carbonio
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Dynafit just won't stop! Now in its eighth iteration, the TLT8 Carbonio boot has improved the previous models to become the epitome of an all-purpose backcountry ski boot. Seen equally as often at both skimo races and atop committing lines far from the nearest road or chairlift, many skiers can attest to the balance of walkability and skiability in the TLT boot lineup. This updated model has a simpler, two independent buckle closure system that replaces the complex single-buckle, routed-cable system that the TLT7 had. A taller cuff improvse the downhill performance and support powerful turning on the way down. Carried over from the previous model is the smooth, lug-free Speed Nose, extra-burly inserts for driving bigger skis, and Dynafit's Ultra Lock horizontal ski/walk mode lever. Exactly what you need and not an ounce more, the TLT8 Carbonio packs top of the line functionality into a package that weighs less than a kilo per boot. Perfect for all your powder-shredding, lap-stacking, chute-skiing, dawn-patrolling needs.

Dynafit's hallmark Speed Nose removes the lugs on the toe of the boot and moves the inserts closer to the ball of the foot, allowing for a more efficient pivoting motion.
Master Step inserts are more stout than your typical tech inserts and provide additional power transmission to the ski.
Adding some height to the cuff of the TLT8 increased skiability, and adding 5 degrees to the range of motion maintains the walkability.
Ultra Lock 4.0 is very similar to the ski/walk lever system seen on previous TLT boots, but the 4.0 version adds a larger lever for increased ease of use with gloves.
With a simple, independent two buckle closure system, Dynafit made transitions simpler and fit more customizable.

Specifications
Weight -> ounces	1102g [27.0]
Weight (pair)	2204g [27.0]
Buckles	Ultralock 4.0
Boot Sole Length	253mm [23/23.5] 263mm [24/24.5] 273mm [25/25.5] 283mm [26/26.5] 293mm [27/27.5] 303mm [28/28.5] 313mm [29/29.5] 323mm [30/30.5]
Binding Compatibility	Tech only
Cuff Rotation	60°
Forward Lean(s)	15°, 18°
Specs Verified	Yes
Design
Materials	Grilamid shell, Carbon/Grilamid Cuff
Liner	Custom Light
Sole	Formula Pomoca Climb
Skimo Co Says
Usage	All-terrain, all-conditions ski touring.
Notes	A Dynafiit classic with simpler closure. Cramp-In system ready.
Bottom Line	One TLT to rule them all.

Last question. Disregard a wider fit, the better touring and easier transitions. Weight is the same with thinner liner in the Carbonio that doesn't seems to fit anyone. How much better does this boot ski than an older TLT6P? Stiffer shell? Higher flex rating? Higher cuff? More predictable flex? I want the boot, just trying to decide why I want this boot :)

Go ahead and talk yourself into it, Dane! I would say it rates higher in all those categories. But the best part is you don't need to worry about tongues.

" Size 27 shell weights are 962g vs 976g in the Carbonio vs Expedition.
I don't think there is a huge forward flex difference between the two."

Thanks Jason!

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Hey guys! I have been wearing a pair of Vulcans for years that are a "comfort" fit and I've been thinking of going down a size for a better fit and more aggressive boot (I also have a mid-low volume foot, so the vulcan may not have been a great choice in the first place). Can you speak to the level of stiffness of the Carbonio 8s versus the non-carbon models, and the volume compared to Vulcans (or even the new Hoji Free/Pros)?

Thanks!

Hi Jared, you might want to visit our boot fitter for a precise recommendation. The Carbonio adds some stiffness vs the Expedition, primarily laterally, but has a thinner liner. It's mid-high volume, higher than Vulcan and much higher than the Hoji Pro Tour.

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Question on sizing? Other than the extra width are these a typical 28 and 29 Dynafit sizing going back to the TLT 5s and 6? If so are the shells still in full sizes only? As in, a 28.5 is still a 28 shell just a different molding on the liner as they did prior? Thanks.

Hi Dane, these have quite a different fit than the 5s and 6s. Not just wider but higher volume. Length is roughly the same though. Correct, 28 & 28.5 are the same shell with a different insole.

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I'm looking for a binding to pair with this boot for corn harvesting and hut touring. Which would you recommend?

Hey Casper, fill out our Binding Finder and we'll give you some good options!

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I put 10k feet on these the first two days. One day with the stock liners and one day with replacements. The stock liners are a bit short at the tongue so they slip below the hard tongue and they are too soft so I found getting them tight enough without crushing your foot is tricky. I put some Palau liners I had from another set of boots in and they were 10x better.

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I was able to try on a TLT8 Expedition, and size 28 was a great fit. I'm still leaning towards the TLT8 Carbonio, and wondering if the sizing will be consistent with the Expedition? I'm thinking Carbonio due to the lower weight, but is it noticeably stiffer (vs. the Expedition)?

Mark- Sizing is exactly the same on the two boots. Carbonio will feel a little looser since the liner is thinner than the Expedition. I think the Expedition is a little better skiing boot than the Carbonio due to beefier upper on the liner.

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The liner in this boot is like a sock. What would you recommend to beef up the ski performance?

Hey Travis, while true sock liners may take umbrage at your statement, we wholeheartedly agree that the liners in these boots are pretty light. Two options you might check out are the Palau Tour Lite Pro Evo or Palau Power LT. The Tour LPE is a slight bump-up in thickness but much more heat-moldable, while the Power LT is a stiffer and warmer option that pushes the cuff of the TLT8 out in diameter.

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Hey Do you guys have the Dynafit TLT8 Carbonio boot in stock at the Salt Lake store for trying on? Size 28.

Thanks!

Alex,

We sure do! Come on by, we are happy to help you out and make sure we match the right boot with your foot. See you soon!

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Are the Scarpa F1s and the TLT8s that different? I just got the F1s but tried on the TLT8s and they felt oh so good and now I'm having second thoughts. Bonus points if you can help me justify owning both...

Hey Travis, yes, we can always justify owning a bigger boot quiver! We are super psyched on the TLT8 (both Carbonio and Expedition) as a wildly versatile, high-performance touring option. The F1 uses some older, more tried-and-true tech to create a consistent flex and drive skis across the spectrum of snow conditions; the most recent iterations of the TLT8 (see details in our comparison) make it a touch stiffer off the top than the F1 and gives it a slew of features for efficient touring (Speed Nose, lighter Carbonio shell, sticky rubber sole for scrambling). I'd give the TLT8 the nod for firmer snow and for going edge-to-edge on skinny mountaineering skis, while the F1 slots in as a daily driver on rockered boards and in the crud. Feel free to reach out to help@skimo.co if you want to get a more personal recommendation!

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I read here that the tlt8 weighs 1100 +grams. On the dynafit site they say 950 grams. That's quite a difference. Which is accurate. thx

Hi Hal, our specs on this boot are verified in-house so 1102g it is!

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I have skied the TLT6 Carbon for years and it's the best boot I've ever toured on. My question about the TLT8 Carbonio is; will I have to remount my skis for the different placement of the pin holes? Thanks in advance.

Hi Hal, we agree the TLT6 was a terrific boot and the TLT8 may be even better! Unfortunately the BSL has changed about 4mm per shell size for the 8, so you would have to remount, or use an adjustment plate to shift the heel piece slightly.

Hi hal, the SpeedFit Pro is more of a direct replacement for the TLT6, with the same lower shell (and thus BSL).

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What is the weight of this boot? You give the same weight as the expedition CR. Is that correct? I thought the carbonario would be lighter?

Hey John, you're correct the Carbonio is a hair lighter -- looking at 1112 grams (SkimoCo verified weight) in a 27/27.5 Carbonio versus 1130 grams (claimed weight -- we haven't received the boot yet) in a 27/27.5 Expedition. I would choose the Carbonios if you wanted a tad more stiffness, and the Expeditions if warmth is the name of the game.

Hi John, I expect the Expedition to come in a bit heavier than list.

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Hi,
I am thinking of upgrading from the TLT 7 to the TLT 8. Can I assume that my 26.5 TLT 7 will have the same fit as the TLT 8 in a 26.5? Also, I only have a little bit of adjustement on my bindings, are the boot sole lengths the same from tlt7 to tlt 8? Thanks!

Mike

Hi Mike, while there have been some slight tweaks between the TLT7 and 8, the shell sizing has remained consistent, so you should be all set with the 26.5. BSL has also remained the same between the two, at 283mm for the 26/26.5 shell size.

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How much taller is the TLT8 versus the TLT7 Carbonio?

Hey Jonathan! We don't have the TLT8 yet, so cannot say. That isn't something Dynafit provides. It could be a while till they finally arrive, but we will follow up here.

Just got these and don't have the TLT7 in front of me to compare to at the moment, but it appears as thought the back of the cuff is about the same as the 7, but the front cuff is higher for sure. The plastic on the front of the cuff is also stiffer. Doing a carpet flex, the rearward support feels similar to the 7, but the forward flex feels stiffer to me. The fit seems the same as the 7 and the liner is the typical foam "sock" that was in the 7 (not my favorite). Even though the forward flex is stiffer in ski mode, walk mode seems similar to the 7. Overall, it feels a little more robust than the TLT7.

Robert -- thanks for the early observations! Our TLT8 stock just landed yesterday and it looks like (as you said) the rear cuff is the same height on both, but the front cuff height is a good bit higher than on the TLT7. The front cuff on the 30.0 TLT7measured about 4.5" from the instep to the top of the plastic, while on the 30.0 TLT8 it measures 5.75" approx. That's 1.25" additional height adding to the stiffness you get when flexing the boot forward, and also providing a plastic surface for the power strap to pull back on (with the TLT7s, the power strap sat directly on the liner foam).

TLT7 vs 8 Rear photo for reference:

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Hi, I was under the impression that TLT8 would be narrower then TLT 7 but now I see that these are 103mm. Is that correct? Do they feel lower volume? I have tried the PDG2 but they felt huge. Way too big, volume-wise.

I have a pair of Scarpa Alien 1.0 which are tight and nice. I could almost use these all the time if they were more water/snow proof. I also have a pair of heavier Technica Zero-G's which are used if I ski with people with heavier setups. I am looking to compliment these with a light touring boot (approx 1000-1100g) which has good water/snow protection and skis a 85-95mm ski well. Which are my options?

Paul, the TLT 7 and 8 will be same fit and they are equal to the PDG2 (albeit one shell size larger).
What your are describing is the Alien RS. Scarpa beefed them in various areas to make them a touring race boot. They have a built in gaiter that seems to work well. Another excellent choice is the Fischer Travers Carbon. It has a little more volume and skis like a much bigger boot.

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Do you know if Dynafit will produce a "Performance" version, sort of a descendant of TLT7 Performance? Thanks.

Hey Scythian!! They are not. There was not a lot of difference between the Performance and Carbonio. They dropped the price on the Carbonio by $150, so not much need for it.

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I love to say, in a non specific accent, “CARBONIO!”

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