Dynafit just won't stop! Now in its eighth iteration, the TLT8 Carbonio boot has improved the previous models to become the epitome of an all-purpose backcountry ski boot. Seen equally as often at both skimo races and atop committing lines far from the nearest road or chairlift, many skiers can attest to the dual walkability and skiability of the TLT boot lineup. This updated model has a simpler, two independent buckle closure system that replaces the (somewhat complicated) single-buckle, routed-cable system that the TLT7 had. Also, a taller cuff aims to improve the downhill performance, and support you more on the way down. Carried over from the previous model is the smooth, lug-free Speed Nose, extra burly inserts for driving bigger skis, and the super efficient horizontal ski/walk mode lever. Exactly what you need and not an ounce more, the TLT8 Carbonio packs top of the line functionality into a package that weighs less than a kilo per boot. Perfect for all your powder shredding, lap-stacking, chute skiing, dawn patrolling needs.
Dynafit's hallmark Speed Nose removes the lugs on the toe of the boot and moves the inserts closer to the ball of the foot, allowing for a more natural pivoting motion.
Master Step inserts are more stout than your typical tech inserts and provide additional power transmission to the ski, helping you drive the powder skis around better.
Adding some height to the cuff of the TLT8 increased skiability, and adding 5 degrees to the range of motion maintains the walkability. Problem seen, problem solved.
Ultra Lock 4.0 is very similar to the ski/walk lever system seen on previous TLT boots, but the 4.0 version adds a larger lever for increased ease of use with gloves.
With a simple, independent two buckle closure system, Dynafit made transitions simpler and fit more customizable.
Are the Scarpa F1s and the TLT8s that different? I just got the F1s but tried on the TLT8s and they felt oh so good and now I'm having second thoughts. Bonus points if you can help me justify owning both...
Hey Travis, yes, we can always justify owning a bigger boot quiver! We are super psyched on the TLT8 (both Carbonio and Expedition) as a wildly versatile, high-performance touring option. The F1 uses some older, more tried-and-true tech to create a consistent flex and drive skis across the spectrum of snow conditions; the most recent iterations of the TLT8 (see details in our comparison) make it a touch stiffer off the top than the F1 and gives it a slew of features for efficient touring (Speed Nose, lighter Carbonio shell, sticky rubber sole for scrambling). I'd give the TLT8 the nod for firmer snow and for going edge-to-edge on skinny mountaineering skis, while the F1 slots in as a daily driver on rockered boards and in the crud. Feel free to reach out to email@example.com if you want to get a more personal recommendation!
I have skied the TLT6 Carbon for years and it's the best boot I've ever toured on. My question about the TLT8 Carbonio is; will I have to remount my skis for the different placement of the pin holes? Thanks in advance.
Hi Hal, we agree the TLT6 was a terrific boot and the TLT8 may be even better! Unfortunately the BSL has changed about 4mm per shell size for the 8, so you would have to remount, or use an adjustment plate to shift the heel piece slightly.
Hey John, you're correct the Carbonio is a hair lighter -- looking at 1112 grams (SkimoCo verified weight) in a 27/27.5 Carbonio versus 1130 grams (claimed weight -- we haven't received the boot yet) in a 27/27.5 Expedition. I would choose the Carbonios if you wanted a tad more stiffness, and the Expeditions if warmth is the name of the game.
I am thinking of upgrading from the TLT 7 to the TLT 8. Can I assume that my 26.5 TLT 7 will have the same fit as the TLT 8 in a 26.5? Also, I only have a little bit of adjustement on my bindings, are the boot sole lengths the same from tlt7 to tlt 8? Thanks!
Hi Mike, while there have been some slight tweaks between the TLT7 and 8, the shell sizing has remained consistent, so you should be all set with the 26.5. BSL has also remained the same between the two, at 283mm for the 26/26.5 shell size.
Hey Jonathan! We don't have the TLT8 yet, so cannot say. That isn't something Dynafit provides. It could be a while till they finally arrive, but we will follow up here.
Just got these and don't have the TLT7 in front of me to compare to at the moment, but it appears as thought the back of the cuff is about the same as the 7, but the front cuff is higher for sure. The plastic on the front of the cuff is also stiffer. Doing a carpet flex, the rearward support feels similar to the 7, but the forward flex feels stiffer to me. The fit seems the same as the 7 and the liner is the typical foam "sock" that was in the 7 (not my favorite). Even though the forward flex is stiffer in ski mode, walk mode seems similar to the 7. Overall, it feels a little more robust than the TLT7.
Robert -- thanks for the early observations! Our TLT8 stock just landed yesterday and it looks like (as you said) the rear cuff is the same height on both, but the front cuff height is a good bit higher than on the TLT7. The front cuff on the 30.0 TLT7measured about 4.5" from the instep to the top of the plastic, while on the 30.0 TLT8 it measures 5.75" approx. That's 1.25" additional height adding to the stiffness you get when flexing the boot forward, and also providing a plastic surface for the power strap to pull back on (with the TLT7s, the power strap sat directly on the liner foam).
Hi, I was under the impression that TLT8 would be narrower then TLT 7 but now I see that these are 103mm. Is that correct? Do they feel lower volume? I have tried the PDG2 but they felt huge. Way too big, volume-wise.
I have a pair of Scarpa Alien 1.0 which are tight and nice. I could almost use these all the time if they were more water/snow proof. I also have a pair of heavier Technica Zero-G's which are used if I ski with people with heavier setups. I am looking to compliment these with a light touring boot (approx 1000-1100g) which has good water/snow protection and skis a 85-95mm ski well. Which are my options?
Paul, the TLT 7 and 8 will be same fit and they are equal to the PDG2 (albeit one shell size larger).
What your are describing is the Alien RS. Scarpa beefed them in various areas to make them a touring race boot. They have a built in gaiter that seems to work well. Another excellent choice is the Fischer Travers Carbon. It has a little more volume and skis like a much bigger boot.